Guest guest Posted May 30, 2006 Report Share Posted May 30, 2006 Nisargadatta , epston wrote: > > In a message dated 5/30/2006 5:36:49 AM Pacific Daylight Time, > illusyn writes: > > > > > >L.E; My answer is just a guess, and perhaps that is being not > > informed. If > > >you can and do look and feel with your heart and not use your mind, > > how do you > > >flush the toilet, make a peanut butter sandwich and find the knob on > > the TV? > > >But perhaps I am making false assumptions and thinking and using > > your mind is > > >still part of your suggested equation. Tell us more. > > > > The mind can be a great tool for " how " . > > For determining the purpose of a journey, for determining > > the destination for a journey, the mind is worse than > > lousy. > > > > In other words, the heart must lead. The mind is a mere > > servant. The mind is a part of the equation, yes, but a > > subordinate part. > > > > Have you ever seen something that made you cry because > > of its beauty? Then you have seen/felt with your heart. > > > > Have you ever seen something that made you cry because > > of the deep sorrow there? Then you have seen/felt with > > your heart. > > > > The heart doesn't " see a part of " but always *experiences* > > the whole of. > > > > And what is seen with the heart is not seen as good or > > bad, but simply what is. > > > > To behold with the heart is a kind of nakeness. There is > > nothing " safe " about it. > > > > Bill > > > L.E: Taking the above into account, my problem is that as I see it, the Heart > doesn't plan, think or do. It just feels. The heart has a *sense of direction* also. In my artwork, for example, the entire direction of my art is as given by my heart. And when I do a particular piece, it is my heart that knows what the piece is about, why it must be done, etc. It is not that I can spit all that out from the beginning. But if I *follow* the direction indicated by my heart, then as it unfolds the order and meaning of it all becomes clear. To follow the heart takes faith. It is what I mean by " the path with heart " . Bill PS: also from the heart is a kind of *knowing*... something that, again, the mind cannot fathom. PPS: my poetry is entirely of the heart. > And we can't survive with just feeling. And we all feel. > I don't think you offer a solution. The solution is more in the area of > false, untrue, inaccurate beliefs and assumptions. Beliefs are an aspect of > thinking, the mind, and giving them up as a way of seeing life would change things > for the better. > > p.s. I usually like your poetry, I just disagree with some of your ideas. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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