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The familiar self-portrait of Hakuin (1686-1769) is illustrative of

the intentional projection on the part of a Zen master of the image

of the clown. Hakuin does not sketch himself in the idealized form of

an enlightened one, or even in the realistic image of an austere

zenji, but as a bald, fat, cross-eyed and hunch-backed old man. The

poem Hakuin inscribed above the portrait comments:

 

In the realm of the thousand buddhas

He is hated by the thousand buddhas;

Among the crowd of demons

He is detested by the crowd of demons.

He crushes the silent-illumination heretics of today,

And massacres the heterodox blind monks of this generation.

This filthy blind old shavepate

Adds more foulness [ugliness] still to foulness.

 

 

 

A similar portrait by a disciple, bearing the same poem, depicts

Hakuin as looking almost sheepishly, with pursed lips, out of the

corner of his eyes -- through all of which, however, one can detect

the sagacious twinkle of one who was not easily fooled by sanctimony

and pretension.

 

The figure of the clown which stands out here in relation to the

person of the master emerges just as clearly in the various tales of

Zen monks at the point of death. The classic instance is that of Teng

Yinfeng who, when he was about to die, asked, " I have seen monks die

sitting and lying, but have any died standing? " " Yes, some, " was the

reply. " How about upside down? " " Never have we seen such a thing! "

Whereupon Teng stood on his head and died. When it was time to carry

him to the funeral pyre he remained upside-down, to the wonder of

those who came to view the remains, and the consternation of those

who would dispose of them. Finally his younger sister, a nun, came

and, grumbling at him, said, " When you were alive you took no notice

of laws and customs, and even now that you are dead you are making a

nuisance of yourself! " With that she poked him with her finger,

felling him with a thud, and the procession carried him away to the

crematorium. [16] In this way Teng, assuming what, from the remarks

of his sister, was the not unfamiliar role of the clown, expressed

his achievement of spiritual freedom, his liberation from a desperate

clinging to life and anxiety over self, and therefore his

transcendence of the problem of death. There is here an element of

both a promethean laughter in the face of death and a comic freedom

within the larger freedom of enlightenment. The realization of an

authentic liberation, as in so much of the Zen tradition, is attested

by humor, and the symbol of that liberation is the paradoxical figure

of the clown.

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Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111

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>The

> poem Hakuin inscribed above the portrait comments:

>

> In the realm of the thousand buddhas

> He is hated by the thousand buddhas;

> Among the crowd of demons

> He is detested by the crowd of demons.

> He crushes the silent-illumination heretics of today,

> And massacres the heterodox blind monks of this generation.

> This filthy blind old shavepate

> Adds more foulness [ugliness] still to foulness.

 

Nice!!!!

 

-- Dan

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Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033

wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@>

> wrote:

> >The

> > poem Hakuin inscribed above the portrait comments:

> >

> > In the realm of the thousand buddhas

> > He is hated by the thousand buddhas;

> > Among the crowd of demons

> > He is detested by the crowd of demons.

> > He crushes the silent-illumination heretics of today,

> > And massacres the heterodox blind monks of this generation.

> > This filthy blind old shavepate

> > Adds more foulness [ugliness] still to foulness.

>

> Nice!!!!

>

> -- Dan

 

 

Thank you Dan...I just put it on the board....we all need to thank

Hakuin....he's the master.....I'm just another awed reader.

 

........bob

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Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@>

> wrote:

> >The

> > poem Hakuin inscribed above the portrait comments:

> >

> > In the realm of the thousand buddhas

> > He is hated by the thousand buddhas;

> > Among the crowd of demons

> > He is detested by the crowd of demons.

> > He crushes the silent-illumination heretics of today,

> > And massacres the heterodox blind monks of this generation.

> > This filthy blind old shavepate

> > Adds more foulness [ugliness] still to foulness.

>

> Nice!!!!

>

> -- Dan

>

 

Does it occur to you, Dan, that perhaps Bob identifies

with that character, and that therein he finds his

license for coarse and abusive conduct on this list?

 

Just a thought.

 

But if so, not-so-nice, in my view.

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Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " <pliantheart

wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 "

<Roberibus111@>

> > wrote:

> > >The

> > > poem Hakuin inscribed above the portrait comments:

> > >

> > > In the realm of the thousand buddhas

> > > He is hated by the thousand buddhas;

> > > Among the crowd of demons

> > > He is detested by the crowd of demons.

> > > He crushes the silent-illumination heretics of today,

> > > And massacres the heterodox blind monks of this generation.

> > > This filthy blind old shavepate

> > > Adds more foulness [ugliness] still to foulness.

> >

> > Nice!!!!

> >

> > -- Dan

> >

>

> Does it occur to you, Dan, that perhaps Bob identifies

> with that character, and that therein he finds his

> license for coarse and abusive conduct on this list?

>

> Just a thought.

>

> But if so, not-so-nice, in my view.

 

Does it occur to you, Dan that perhaps Bob doesn't give a shit what

Bill's " view " is regarding a great zen Master and some of the best

poetic writing ever entrusted to the world, as suggested by some of

the best minds and hearts that have ever graced our planet. And to

not try and drag you into a morass of merde developed by Bill, who

identifies himself with poetry, and fancies himself as that which he

is not, but rather shows as much talent at the poetic as Hakuin's

shit stick, Bob will just now speak directly to the cretin who would

so like to draw you in and onto his side, as he is incapable of

acting like a man..

 

Bill.......Bob for one doesn't care what Bill finds nice or not-so-

nice in his 'view' of whatever the hell he thinks about when he's got

his tutu tied in a twist. What do you call the above conduct asshole?

Just because you use sissified language because you identify with

Oprah (harpo backwards and in drag)...your intent and willful

clapperclaw, modified by your supposed tender wording is as foul as

it gets buddy. What gives Billy Boy the licence to do that.......you

are a sooty acting creep who tries to hide the fact that he's

shooting peas through his little peashooter from the back of the room

because you haven't got the intestinal fortitude of a gutless worm.

No matter how you try to cut it guy...it's a two way street, and

what's moving down the lane from your direction is as abusive and

coarse as anything coming from my direction. And if it's the language

that bothers you..Fuck you....too bad...grow up....and get off my

fucking case or I'm going to cock the other barrel....and that one's

not shooting small time like this.... stop it Bill!

 

......bob

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Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " <pliantheart

wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@>

> > wrote:

> > >The

> > > poem Hakuin inscribed above the portrait comments:

> > >

> > > In the realm of the thousand buddhas

> > > He is hated by the thousand buddhas;

> > > Among the crowd of demons

> > > He is detested by the crowd of demons.

> > > He crushes the silent-illumination heretics of today,

> > > And massacres the heterodox blind monks of this generation.

> > > This filthy blind old shavepate

> > > Adds more foulness [ugliness] still to foulness.

> >

> > Nice!!!!

> >

> > -- Dan

> >

>

> Does it occur to you, Dan, that perhaps Bob identifies

> with that character, and that therein he finds his

> license for coarse and abusive conduct on this list?

>

> Just a thought.

>

> But if so, not-so-nice, in my view.

 

Bill --

 

I just took it as a poem that expressed the author's sense of

truth-of-being. " The truth I express offends the buddhas and demons. "

Why? Because it doesn't accord with any expectations. It is as is,

and isn't part of a community understanding, isn't Buddhist or Hindu

or Christian, and doesn't support the monks who believe in silent

illumination, nor the monks who consider themselves expressing a

unique expression of their own.

 

This truth is not dependent on any validation from another, nor does

it fit with any image -- neither traditional nor nontraditional.

 

I like the poem a lot - it spoke to me.

 

So, I thanked Bob for posting it -- simple as that.

 

I had no thought about what Bob identifies with or doesn't, nor how

extensive his posting on this list has been, nor how that amount of

posting, and the tone of some of it, has apparently affected others on

this list.

 

That's my honest response to your question.

 

-- Dan

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Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " <pliantheart@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@>

> > > wrote:

> > > >The

> > > > poem Hakuin inscribed above the portrait comments:

> > > >

> > > > In the realm of the thousand buddhas

> > > > He is hated by the thousand buddhas;

> > > > Among the crowd of demons

> > > > He is detested by the crowd of demons.

> > > > He crushes the silent-illumination heretics of today,

> > > > And massacres the heterodox blind monks of this generation.

> > > > This filthy blind old shavepate

> > > > Adds more foulness [ugliness] still to foulness.

> > >

> > > Nice!!!!

> > >

> > > -- Dan

> > >

> >

> > Does it occur to you, Dan, that perhaps Bob identifies

> > with that character, and that therein he finds his

> > license for coarse and abusive conduct on this list?

> >

> > Just a thought.

> >

> > But if so, not-so-nice, in my view.

>

> Bill --

>

> I just took it as a poem that expressed the author's sense of

> truth-of-being. " The truth I express offends the buddhas and demons. "

> Why? Because it doesn't accord with any expectations. It is as is,

> and isn't part of a community understanding, isn't Buddhist or Hindu

> or Christian, and doesn't support the monks who believe in silent

> illumination, nor the monks who consider themselves expressing a

> unique expression of their own.

>

> This truth is not dependent on any validation from another, nor does

> it fit with any image -- neither traditional nor nontraditional.

>

> I like the poem a lot - it spoke to me.

>

> So, I thanked Bob for posting it -- simple as that.

>

> I had no thought about what Bob identifies with or doesn't, nor how

> extensive his posting on this list has been, nor how that amount of

> posting, and the tone of some of it, has apparently affected others on

> this list.

>

> That's my honest response to your question.

>

> -- Dan

>

 

sometimes I give way

to sheer capricious impulse

 

that you should manage such a cogent reply to that...

quite impressive!

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