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GuruRatings , " cfmspencer " <cfmspencer

wrote:

>

> GuruRatings , " adithya_comming "

> <adithya_comming@> wrote:

> >

> > [...]

> >

> > > I will travel to India next week for

> > > vacation and there I will meet RP

> > > Singh. RP Singh is the man who

> > > performed 'shaktipat' on me without my

> > > knowledge, request or permission [not

> > > that I would have objected to it]. When

> > > I meet him, I will face a very

> > > interesting situation. I will like to

> > > write a little about it...

> >

> > Based on my previous meeting, following are

> > the questions that I might be asked:

>

> Arvind,

> is this man a (former?) teacher of yours?

 

My brother in law considered RP Singh his

guru and that's why he introduced me

to him.

 

I didn't believe in 'formal' guru-chela

relationship and thus, I didn't consider

my relationship with him of guru-chela

nor did he demand it.

 

We treated each other with respect and

as fiends and that was the relationship that

felt most comfortable to him and me.

 

I asked him many things and he too asked

me many things [not necessarily related

to spirituality]

 

Though, he did initiate me in 'Kundalini'

through shaktipat, he advised me on

meditation posture and he gave me mantra

to recite.

 

Thus, in traditional sense, he can indeed

be called my " guru " .

 

 

> if not, these questions would seem to be a bit

> 'surreal'.

 

My experience with RP Singh has been quite

'unreal' indeed...

 

In our second meeting, he performed shaktipat

on me and claimed to have opened my first

chakra and thus having awakened the Shakti

within.

 

I slept that night and woke up next morning

after feeling a distinct, unique feeling [that I

had never felt before or after] in my first chakra

position.

 

Throughout that day, I kept feeling energy flowing

through my body and dissipating through my fingertips.

 

I felt very peaceful, serene and blissful and I naturally

felt like hugging people, shaking hand with them or

putting my hand on someone's head or just touching

them in any way.

 

As if, there was " love " flowing through the body...

 

As if, I was suddenly feeling 'loving' towards everything...

 

As if there was something in me that wanted

to " touch " others and thus spread itself.

 

As if, I had become its 'transmission vehicle'...

 

 

....

 

RP Singh also said that he has " transferred " " all of him "

into me...

 

that [in a spiritual sense], he was going to live

'through the body known as mine'!

 

 

He predicted that in two years, he [RP Singh] is going

to have a major awakening experience.

 

Strangely, about two years from then, I had a

a major 'pacifying experience' that felt like

my Death!

 

When I contacted RP Singh, he said nothing

had happened to him!

 

....

 

When this thing 'like Death' happened to me,

I got quite mystified, fascinated as well as

worried. Many times, I feared if

what had happened to me was some kind of

real slow physical death or a serious terminal

disease and if I was going to physically die

pretty soon.

 

After hearing this from me and my brother

in law, RP Singh broke all contacts with me

as he didn't want to be 'responsible' for

my death!

 

 

 

>

> I would take Adya's advice myself,

> just trust that the words will come when

> called upon.

 

Yes...

 

That's what I normally do too.

 

Sometimes words come to which many times,

RP Singh says... beautiful, beautiful...

 

or...

 

my words indeed...

 

 

....

 

Many other times, he seems kind of

puzzled and disappointed that 'whatever

happened to me' doesn't directly translate

into a worldly power of... money, name,

influence, fame or in 'making " thing " happen'!

 

I gather that he 'expected' [or expects]

" spiritual power " to be able to manifest

'desired things'!

 

 

>

> OTOH, I was never any good at role-playing

> or scripts so YMMV

 

Thanks a lot for this beautiful opportunity

to talk about RP Singh and this still

'not fully understood' phenomenon, Clay!

 

With warm regards,

ac.

 

>

> >

> >

> > Are you enlightened?

> >

> > < ... >

> >

> > Are you looking for enlightenment?

> >

> > No.

> >

> > Why aren't you looking? Have you found

> > enlightenment?

> >

> > ...

> >

> > What is enlightenment?

> >

> > ...

> >

> > If you are enlightened, how are you

> > different from me or anybody else?

> >

> > ...

> >

> > If you are enlightened, what can you

> > do that others can't?

> >

> > ...

> >

> > What have you found by being

> > enlightened? What can you do now that

> > you couldn't do before?

> >

> > ...

> >

> > If you are not " different " that

> > others, what " good " is such

> > enlightenment?

> >

> > ...

> >

> > If you are same as others, is it even

> > " enlightenment " ?

> >

> > ...

> >

> >

> > So what really happened to you?

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ...

> >

> >

> > ...and, I haven't yet answered these

> > questions in accurate and 'verifiable' and/or

> > scientific way.

> >

> >

> > Can you help me answer them?

> >

>

> do you really expect to be able to

> answer them?

>

> clay

>

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