Guest guest Posted June 2, 2006 Report Share Posted June 2, 2006 I used to avoid looking at the pictures of Adya... the reason was that when looking at him, I felt myself 'transformed'. I felt as if 'I had become like him'... as if I had become 'the man in the picture'... as if I had 'recognized' the " feelings " 'visible' through this picture and now, I had the same " feeling " myself! .... Every time, I looked at him, I felt like leaving the [feeling] state that existed before looking at him... and entering an inherently familiar yet distinctly different mold. It happened pretty much every time and due to this reason, I guess I even resented him on some level. It was as if like a " nagging wife " , someone was constantly reminding me of my own truth, my own nature... my own Real Face! .... And, I developed an 'avoidance' fearing that if I Iook, the 'transition' will happen again... I guess I had some inner 'inertia' built to " remain " in the state I was in and not make sudden 'uncontrolled', 'uninitiated' transition into another state! .... Pete suggested that it had something to do with mirror neurons. And, after reading a little on mirror neurons, I am beginning to suspect that perhaps, it is... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2006 Report Share Posted June 2, 2006 Nisargadatta , " adithya_comming " <adithya_comming wrote: > > > > I used to avoid looking at the pictures of Adya... > > the reason was that when looking at him, > I felt myself 'transformed'. yes, it happens also with porno Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2006 Report Share Posted June 2, 2006 Nisargadatta , " bigwaaba " <bigwaaba wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " adithya_comming " > <adithya_comming@> wrote: > > > > > > > > I used to avoid looking at the pictures of Adya... > > > > the reason was that when looking at him, > > I felt myself 'transformed'. > > > yes, it happens also with porno It is ALL porn...;-)))) Yep...them there dudes have a transfinite transforming trick up there sleeve .....here's a couple zamples from other spots on the net neti neti sheep trail: It is unfortunate that most seekers have no sense of humour when it comes to uncovering the fraudulent nature of Gurus. Spiritual Seekers are quite often so deluded that they don't even know how sickening they are to be around. - Precious concepts and precious beliefs. People arte addicted to having heroes and godesses. It's all vanity. Most popluar gurus actually stink so much of vanity, that they only attract vain seekers. - It all ends right there. - A mutual Admiration Club. Its not much more that a bunch of mental and spiritual masturbating club members. Only a shock of some magnitude will ever shake them from their delusions. Revelations of inappropriate activities by the Guru sometimes provide such a shock. They lick their wounds and go in search of a new Guru to surrender to and praise. - All such praise is too much for the ego of the Guru and they submit to vanity. - One can see examples of this in many places. ************************************************** Bhagawan Sri Ramana Maharshi was reading comic strips when U.G. first saw him. At the very first glimpse of him U.G. thought, 'How can this man help me?' As he sat there for two hours, watching the Bhagawan cut vegetables and play with this, that or the other, he wasn't at all surprised to find that all those fancy assertions to the effect that this man's look changed you and that all questions disappeared in his presence, remained fables. 'Is there,' asked U.G., 'anything like enlightenment?' 'Yes, there is,' replied Ramana. 'Are there any levels to it?' The Master replied, 'No, no levels are possible. It is all one thing--either you are there or you are not there at all.' Finally U.G. asked, 'This thing called enlightenment, can you give it to me?' Sri Ramana did not answer. After a pause U.G. repeated the question, 'I am asking you whether you can give me whatever you have?' Looking U.G. in the eyes, Bhagawan replied, 'I can give it to you but can you take it?' 'What arrogance!' U.G. thought to himself, '`I can give it to you but can you take it?' Nobody had said anything like that before.' Everybody that he had met before had advised him to do something. For seven years he had been through all kinds of sadhanas. He had also gone through a 'masochistic' period of self-denial. 'If there is any individual who can take it, it is me. But what is that state? What is it that he has?' queried U.G. 'He can't be very different from me. He was also born to parents. People say something happened to him. How do I know if there is anything like enlightenment? I must find out. Nobody can give me that state. I am on my own....' U.G. never visited Sri Ramana again. As he left Tiruvannnamalai, his real search began. **************************************** But that Gangaji chick! wowzer!....them Bette Davis eyes to love..look into.......and get lost in as you lose your money too..such a deal...... a gangaji book review: I began listening to this book on tape with great anticipation due to the positive reviews it has received and the idea of learning to live more in the present.I was turned off by the poor writing, subjectivity of the ideas, lack of fresh ideas, discarding of timeless scriptural doctrines in favor of doctrine based on the author's personal experiences and opinions (what sounds and feels good), and the repetition of thoughts over and over.The author is appealing to what we know to be true--that to live in the present is the key to faith, joy and contentment, among other virtues. He also knows that we would all like to believe that all paths lead to God, no matter what we call him/her, and we can all find him/her and the truth in ourselves and experience enlightenment by disciplining our thoughts. It reminds me of the Celestine Prophecies, another book I found to be based on inane ideas and consisting of poor writing. I think you will feel the same about this book as you did that one, which was also very popular. Throw Deepak Chopra in the same group. This book is similar to his " insights " on knowing God.The audiotape is read by the author who just plain sounds goofy.This book should land under the humor section. Tolle's idea of enlightenment is nothing new. He pales in comparison to scriptures, classic philosophy and literature and even to modern motivational writers like Zig Ziglar, Rober Schuller, Norman Vincent Peale, John Maxwell, Anthony Robbins, Robert Collier, Thomas Merton, Og Mandino, etc. Their writing is head and shoulders above this drivel. Keep this book in the context of centuries of spiritual writing that the author disparages based on his personal " enlightenment. " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2006 Report Share Posted June 2, 2006 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " bigwaaba " <bigwaaba@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " adithya_comming " > > <adithya_comming@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > I used to avoid looking at the pictures of Adya... > > > > > > the reason was that when looking at him, > > > I felt myself 'transformed'. > > > > > > yes, it happens also with porno > > > It is ALL porn...;-)))) > > > Yep...them there dudes have a transfinite transforming trick up there > sleeve .....here's a couple zamples from other spots on the net neti > neti sheep trail: > > It is unfortunate that most seekers have no sense of humour when it > comes to uncovering the fraudulent nature of Gurus. > Spiritual Seekers are quite often so deluded that they don't even > know how sickening they are to be around. - Precious concepts and > precious beliefs. > People arte addicted to having heroes and godesses. It's all vanity. > Most popluar gurus actually stink so much of vanity, that they only > attract vain seekers. > - It all ends right there. - A mutual Admiration Club. > Its not much more that a bunch of mental and spiritual masturbating > club members. > Only a shock of some magnitude will ever shake them from their > delusions. > Revelations of inappropriate activities by the Guru sometimes provide > such a shock. > They lick their wounds and go in search of a new Guru to surrender to > and praise. - All such praise is too much for the ego of the Guru and > they submit to vanity. - One can see examples of this in many places. > > ************************************************** > > > Bhagawan Sri Ramana Maharshi was reading comic strips when U.G. first > saw him. At the very first glimpse of him U.G. thought, 'How can this > man help me?' As he sat there for two hours, watching the Bhagawan > cut vegetables and play with this, that or the other, he wasn't at > all surprised to find that all those fancy assertions to the effect > that this man's look changed you and that all questions disappeared > in his presence, remained fables. > > 'Is there,' asked U.G., 'anything like enlightenment?' 'Yes, there > is,' replied Ramana. 'Are there any levels to it?' The Master > replied, 'No, no levels are possible. It is all one thing--either you > are there or you are not there at all.' Finally U.G. asked, 'This > thing called enlightenment, can you give it to me?' Sri Ramana did > not answer. After a pause U.G. repeated the question, 'I am asking > you whether you can give me whatever you have?' Looking U.G. in the > eyes, Bhagawan replied, 'I can give it to you but can you take it?' > > 'What arrogance!' U.G. thought to himself, '`I can give it to you but > can you take it?' Nobody had said anything like that before.' > Everybody that he had met before had advised him to do something. For > seven years he had been through all kinds of sadhanas. He had also > gone through a 'masochistic' period of self-denial. 'If there is any > individual who can take it, it is me. But what is that state? What is > it that he has?' queried U.G. 'He can't be very different from me. > He was also born to parents. People say something happened to him. > How do I know if there is anything like enlightenment? I must find > out. Nobody can give me that state. I am on my own....' > > U.G. never visited Sri Ramana again. As he left Tiruvannnamalai, his > real search began. > **************************************** > > But that Gangaji chick! wowzer!....them Bette Davis eyes to > love..look into.......and get lost in as you lose your money > too..such a deal...... > > > > a gangaji book review: > > > I began listening to this book on tape with great anticipation due to > the positive reviews it has received and the idea of learning to live > more in the present.I was turned off by the poor writing, > subjectivity of the ideas, lack of fresh ideas, discarding of > timeless scriptural doctrines in favor of doctrine based on the > author's personal experiences and opinions (what sounds and feels > good), and the repetition of thoughts over and over.The author is > appealing to what we know to be true--that to live in the present is > the key to faith, joy and contentment, among other virtues. He also > knows that we would all like to believe that all paths lead to God, > no matter what we call him/her, and we can all find him/her and the > truth in ourselves and experience enlightenment by disciplining our > thoughts. It reminds me of the Celestine Prophecies, another book I > found to be based on inane ideas and consisting of poor writing. I > think you will feel the same about this book as you did that one, > which was also very popular. Throw Deepak Chopra in the same group. > This book is similar to his " insights " on knowing God.The audiotape > is read by the author who just plain sounds goofy.This book should > land under the humor section. Tolle's idea of enlightenment is > nothing new. He pales in comparison to scriptures, classic philosophy > and literature and even to modern motivational writers like Zig > Ziglar, Rober Schuller, Norman Vincent Peale, John Maxwell, Anthony > Robbins, Robert Collier, Thomas Merton, Og Mandino, etc. Their > writing is head and shoulders above this drivel. Keep this book in > the context of centuries of spiritual writing that the author > disparages based on his personal " enlightenment. " > Personal enlightenment, ain't that the bacon-maker!! Don't look before you jump! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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