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who is saying what to whom?!?

 

 

 

 

Nisargadatta , " adithya_comming "

<adithya_comming wrote:

>

> GuruRatings , " cfmspencer " <cfmspencer@>

> wrote:

> >

> > GuruRatings , " adithya_comming "

> > <adithya_comming@> wrote:

> > >

> > > [...]

> > >

> > > > I will travel to India next week for

> > > > vacation and there I will meet RP

> > > > Singh. RP Singh is the man who

> > > > performed 'shaktipat' on me without my

> > > > knowledge, request or permission [not

> > > > that I would have objected to it]. When

> > > > I meet him, I will face a very

> > > > interesting situation. I will like to

> > > > write a little about it...

> > >

> > > Based on my previous meeting, following are

> > > the questions that I might be asked:

> >

> > Arvind,

> > is this man a (former?) teacher of yours?

>

> My brother in law considered RP Singh his

> guru and that's why he introduced me

> to him.

>

> I didn't believe in 'formal' guru-chela

> relationship and thus, I didn't consider

> my relationship with him of guru-chela

> nor did he demand it.

>

> We treated each other with respect and

> as fiends and that was the relationship that

> felt most comfortable to him and me.

>

> I asked him many things and he too asked

> me many things [not necessarily related

> to spirituality]

>

> Though, he did initiate me in 'Kundalini'

> through shaktipat, he advised me on

> meditation posture and he gave me mantra

> to recite.

>

> Thus, in traditional sense, he can indeed

> be called my " guru " .

>

>

> > if not, these questions would seem to be a bit

> > 'surreal'.

>

> My experience with RP Singh has been quite

> 'unreal' indeed...

>

> In our second meeting, he performed shaktipat

> on me and claimed to have opened my first

> chakra and thus having awakened the Shakti

> within.

>

> I slept that night and woke up next morning

> after feeling a distinct, unique feeling [that I

> had never felt before or after] in my first chakra

> position.

>

> Throughout that day, I kept feeling energy flowing

> through my body and dissipating through my fingertips.

>

> I felt very peaceful, serene and blissful and I naturally

> felt like hugging people, shaking hand with them or

> putting my hand on someone's head or just touching

> them in any way.

>

> As if, there was " love " flowing through the body...

>

> As if, I was suddenly feeling 'loving' towards everything...

>

> As if there was something in me that wanted

> to " touch " others and thus spread itself.

>

> As if, I had become its 'transmission vehicle'...

>

>

> ...

>

> RP Singh also said that he has " transferred " " all of him "

> into me...

>

> that [in a spiritual sense], he was going to live

> 'through the body known as mine'!

>

>

> He predicted that in two years, he [RP Singh] is going

> to have a major awakening experience.

>

> Strangely, about two years from then, I had a

> a major 'pacifying experience' that felt like

> my Death!

>

> When I contacted RP Singh, he said nothing

> had happened to him!

>

> ...

>

> When this thing 'like Death' happened to me,

> I got quite mystified, fascinated as well as

> worried. Many times, I feared if

> what had happened to me was some kind of

> real slow physical death or a serious terminal

> disease and if I was going to physically die

> pretty soon.

>

> After hearing this from me and my brother

> in law, RP Singh broke all contacts with me

> as he didn't want to be 'responsible' for

> my death!

>

>

>

> >

> > I would take Adya's advice myself,

> > just trust that the words will come when

> > called upon.

>

> Yes...

>

> That's what I normally do too.

>

> Sometimes words come to which many times,

> RP Singh says... beautiful, beautiful...

>

> or...

>

> my words indeed...

>

>

> ...

>

> Many other times, he seems kind of

> puzzled and disappointed that 'whatever

> happened to me' doesn't directly translate

> into a worldly power of... money, name,

> influence, fame or in 'making " thing " happen'!

>

> I gather that he 'expected' [or expects]

> " spiritual power " to be able to manifest

> 'desired things'!

>

>

> >

> > OTOH, I was never any good at role-playing

> > or scripts so YMMV

>

> Thanks a lot for this beautiful opportunity

> to talk about RP Singh and this still

> 'not fully understood' phenomenon, Clay!

>

> With warm regards,

> ac.

>

> >

> > >

> > >

> > > Are you enlightened?

> > >

> > > < ... >

> > >

> > > Are you looking for enlightenment?

> > >

> > > No.

> > >

> > > Why aren't you looking? Have you found

> > > enlightenment?

> > >

> > > ...

> > >

> > > What is enlightenment?

> > >

> > > ...

> > >

> > > If you are enlightened, how are you

> > > different from me or anybody else?

> > >

> > > ...

> > >

> > > If you are enlightened, what can you

> > > do that others can't?

> > >

> > > ...

> > >

> > > What have you found by being

> > > enlightened? What can you do now that

> > > you couldn't do before?

> > >

> > > ...

> > >

> > > If you are not " different " that

> > > others, what " good " is such

> > > enlightenment?

> > >

> > > ...

> > >

> > > If you are same as others, is it even

> > > " enlightenment " ?

> > >

> > > ...

> > >

> > >

> > > So what really happened to you?

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ...

> > >

> > >

> > > ...and, I haven't yet answered these

> > > questions in accurate and 'verifiable' and/or

> > > scientific way.

> > >

> > >

> > > Can you help me answer them?

> > >

> >

> > do you really expect to be able to

> > answer them?

> >

> > clay

> >

>

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