Guest guest Posted June 2, 2006 Report Share Posted June 2, 2006 I am still a new guy here and have some new guy comments. As has just been said or implied, there is too much irrelevant verbal masturbating going on here. Will someone tell me what purpose they think this list serves, or would like this list to serve? It has gotten to the point that I only read responses to my originations, and anything Bill has to say. I think that arguing is just thinkingness and stories. I think that debates, on average, should not go on for more than three or four posts per thread. I would like to see all of us point fingers at the moon, (which is different than telling stories), state their personal realizations, quotes they think will be helpful to us, ask questions, point us to interesting web sites, be a little humorous once in a while... and ... what else???:-) I noticed that on occasion, when some of you write a post that you want someone in particular to be sure to read, you include their name in the subject. I think that is a useful and efficient idea:-) Stu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2006 Report Share Posted June 2, 2006 L.E: This list is under the supervision and control of one person: Hur. What happens here is up to him. This is not a democracy. If you only find one person to read, then read the one person. I don't find many I want to read either, but feel glad to experience those I respect. There is one person on this list I find especially repulsive and obnoxious, foul and obscene, but some others seem to like him. So whatever. This list is what it is, take it or leave it. Hur doesn't seem to want to change much. So, your suggestions are most likely to be ignored and no responsible discussion will ensure. You will be fortunate if someone doesn't insult you and your efforts. Nisargadatta's writings exist and we can enjoy or respond to them and whatever other issues you want to share. If people want to jerk-off they will and you can walk around it or step in it; your choice. Larry Epston stuartkfmn <stuartkfmn Nisargadatta Fri, 2 Jun 2006 20:07:39 -0000 Why is this list?? I am still a new guy here and have some new guy comments. As has just been said or implied, there is too much irrelevant verbal masturbating going on here. Will someone tell me what purpose they think this list serves, or would like this list to serve? It has gotten to the point that I only read responses to my originations, and anything Bill has to say. I think that arguing is just thinkingness and stories. I think that debates, on average, should not go on for more than three or four posts per thread. I would like to see all of us point fingers at the moon, (which is different than telling stories), state their personal realizations, quotes they think will be helpful to us, ask questions, point us to interesting web sites, be a little humorous once in a while... and ... what else???:-) I noticed that on occasion, when some of you write a post that you want someone in particular to be sure to read, you include their name in the subject. I think that is a useful and efficient idea:-) Stu ** If you do not wish to receive individual emails, to change your subscription, sign in with your ID and go to Edit My Groups: /mygroups?edit=1 Under the Message Delivery option, choose " No Email " for the Nisargadatta group and click on Save Changes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 3, 2006 Report Share Posted June 3, 2006 Nisargadatta , epston wrote: > > L.E: This list There is one person on this list I find especially repulsive and obnoxious, foul and obscene, but some others seem to like him. So whatever. This list is what it is, take it or leave it. >A WHOLE BUNCH OF SNIP HERE< Me too....that's the thing about truth...everbody hates it...even the one speaking it..always been that way...always will..funny thing that. >Snippin' Here Too< Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 3, 2006 Report Share Posted June 3, 2006 Nisargadatta , " stuartkfmn " <stuartkfmn wrote: > > I am still a new guy here and have some new guy comments. > > As has just been said or implied, there is too much irrelevant verbal > masturbating going on here. This list is moderated only in the mildest sense of the term. So some real garbage can be found here. > > Will someone tell me what purpose they think this list serves, or > would like this list to serve? You can check the homepage for the purported purpose. Basically, on-topic here is to be about nonduality. > It has gotten to the point that I only read responses to my > originations, and anything Bill has to say. There are quite a few here that originate excellent posts. For example, there was a recent post with the subject " I am " that I hope you didn't pass over. > I think that arguing is just thinkingness and stories. I think that > debates, on average, should not go on for more than three or four > posts per thread. Not long ago I decided to stay out of the intellectual debates. To point out the flaws in someone's reasoning, I finally came to realize, is a waste. > I would like to see all of us point fingers at the > moon, (which is different than telling stories), state their personal > realizations, Nothing surpases speaking directly, in the now, of one's own experience *as* experienced. Bill > quotes they think will be helpful to us, ask questions, > point us to interesting web sites, be a little humorous once in a > while... and ... what else???:-) > > I noticed that on occasion, when some of you write a post that you > want someone in particular to be sure to read, you include their name > in the subject. I think that is a useful and efficient idea:-) > > Stu > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 3, 2006 Report Share Posted June 3, 2006 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , epston@ wrote: > > > > L.E: This list There is one person on this list I find especially > repulsive and obnoxious, foul and obscene, but some others seem to like > him. So whatever. This list is what it is, take it or leave it. > > > >A WHOLE BUNCH OF SNIP HERE< > > Me too....that's the thing about truth...everbody hates it...even the > one speaking it..always been that way...always will..funny thing that. > > > >Snippin' Here Too< > Some pills hurt to swallow, especially when there's something (image) to defend. Stop for nuttin' Bob! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 3, 2006 Report Share Posted June 3, 2006 Nisargadatta , " stuartkfmn " <stuartkfmn wrote: > > I am still a new guy here and have some new guy comments. > > As has just been said or implied, there is too much irrelevant verbal > masturbating going on here. > > Will someone tell me what purpose they think this list serves, or > would like this list to serve? > > It has gotten to the point that I only read responses to my > originations, and anything Bill has to say. > > I think that arguing is just thinkingness and stories. I think that > debates, on average, should not go on for more than three or four > posts per thread. I would like to see all of us point fingers at the > moon, (which is different than telling stories), state their personal > realizations, quotes they think will be helpful to us, ask questions, > point us to interesting web sites, be a little humorous once in a > while... and ... what else???:-) > > I noticed that on occasion, when some of you write a post that you > want someone in particular to be sure to read, you include their name > in the subject. I think that is a useful and efficient idea:-) > > Stu > I can see you'd like to have more control of the content on this group as many others posting here would. Problem being that of lack of control in our lives spilling into every other area, including here. Everyone clingning to something, even a pain or addiction just to prove our control/existence in one area. Surely we must all have realised on some level that the true master need not control his environment, but plays the hand he's been dealt, and in such a way that we gaze in awe? Can any of actually control whats going to happen in this next second? Makes you feel small doesn't it? Cred to Hur for doing an exellent job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 3, 2006 Report Share Posted June 3, 2006 Nisargadatta , " Mats " <hyl894t wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " stuartkfmn " <stuartkfmn@> > wrote: > > > > I am still a new guy here and have some new guy comments. > > > > As has just been said or implied, there is too much irrelevant > verbal > > masturbating going on here. > > > > Will someone tell me what purpose they think this list serves, or > > would like this list to serve? > > > > It has gotten to the point that I only read responses to my > > originations, and anything Bill has to say. > > > > I think that arguing is just thinkingness and stories. I think > that > > debates, on average, should not go on for more than three or four > > posts per thread. I would like to see all of us point fingers at > the > > moon, (which is different than telling stories), state their > personal > > realizations, quotes they think will be helpful to us, ask > questions, > > point us to interesting web sites, be a little humorous once in a > > while... and ... what else???:-) > > > > I noticed that on occasion, when some of you write a post that you > > want someone in particular to be sure to read, you include their > name > > in the subject. I think that is a useful and efficient idea:-) > > > > Stu > > > > I can see you'd like to have more control of the content on this > group as many others posting here would. > Problem being that of lack of control in our lives spilling into > every other area, including here. > Everyone clingning to something, even a pain or addiction just to > prove our control/existence in one area. > Surely we must all have realised on some level that the true master > need not control his environment, but plays the hand he's been > dealt, and in such a way that we gaze in awe? > Can any of actually control whats going to happen in this next > second? Makes you feel small doesn't it? > > Cred to Hur for doing an exellent job. > In the truest sense, the only thing we ever work on is ourselves. We are, of course, mirrors of one another. And this is how we learn and teach the One teaching: I Am that I Am. All the rest are layers of humanity and upbringing: home and religious, intellect/reason/education, geographic placement, social and familial order, sex, and all the rest of the millions of things that make you YOU and i I. 'You' could have been anyone, you could have been me. Be gentle with us. love, Ana of body image and history, of It has been said that what we teach we want to learn. T Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 4, 2006 Report Share Posted June 4, 2006 Nisargadatta , epston wrote: > > L.E: This list is under the supervision and control of one person: Hur. What happens here is up to him. This is not a democracy. If you only find one person to read, then read the one person. I don't find many I want to read either, but feel glad to experience those I respect. There is one person on this list I find especially repulsive and obnoxious, foul and obscene, but some others seem to like him. So whatever. This list is what it is, take it or leave it..... > > Larry Epston > I'm not sure how accurate it's to claim that I control anything. I cannot even control myself. There may be some posts " repulsive and obnoxious " at times...and yes life can be like that at times... but it all depends from whose perspective...did you notice it's usually the Others...never " me " ? I have yet to encounter one single person who admits how self-absorbed, delusional their ideas are...besides if they were truly delusional, how would they know? Unless someone from outside their world would tell them. Then all hell breaks loose. I've always found it strange that for a (non-dual) perspective that claims there's no me, non-dual scene attracts some of the strangest characters. It's not my job to be a babysitter but if anyone continues to be abusive in this group they will be evicted to Judi's ranch. Hur Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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