Guest guest Posted June 3, 2006 Report Share Posted June 3, 2006 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " <pliantheart@> > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > I hate spiritual lies....that's a religious truth with me.......I > > > sometimes hate the truth...when I hate anything it is because it > > is > > > the truth.....that's why I would say " hit me hard...really > fucking > > > hard.....with what is true " ......that hate.....that's the tip > > > off.......if I hate something said or done......there is > something > > > about me that I see in that statement or action that I dislike > unto > > > hate.......elstwise I would not have been brought to reaction > from > > > the being of direct action.....what is it in the truth that seems > > so > > > hateful?...it is my own insignificance.....my own delusion being > > > shattered..the one that says it's all about me.....and worse > > > yet....because this awareness has been caused and risen in > me....I > > > now change the target of that hate......now not towards the truth > > > that I so hate...now it is the 'other' that has said the things > > that > > > have brought me to that humble and glorious truth. If I so love > the > > > world as to lose my life/self, to gain the World that is already > my > > > treasure.......than I must realize that 'hate'.. is the keeping > of > > > that very 'other' that keeps me from losing that very > > self/mind/life > > > that creates the 'world' and obscures the 'World'. There is no > one > > > here to comfort my afflictions nor celebrate my > victories......only > > > my own thoughts create those victories..afflictions..wins and > > losses, > > > self and other. any and all words used to tell the truth of that > > are > > > deemed hateful by the obscured radiance that is my being-time as > > > self.......in Light there is none of it....not victory nor defeat > > nor > > > winning nor losing and.....darkly(to the beclouded > > refulgence) ....no > > > caring about any of it or any selves......where there is care > there > > > is uncaring....where there is love there is hate....where there > is > > me > > > there is you... where there is a world of reality there is a > world > > of > > > illusiion ...where there is truth....there is none of this nor > > > that...there is truth period. and no matter what words are used > to > > > tell of that....they will sound hateful...because I hate the > > > truth....what words will cause me to jump up and yell with > > > madness?..what words will sink me further into illusion..fuck? > > > pisshead?..shit stick?........penis breath?......what do any of > > those > > > words have to do with my survuval?....that's what's threatened in > > the > > > delusional mind, if anger is resulting...the survival of my self > > > deceit is threatened and I'm scared as hell of losing that > > delusion, > > > and not having anything to hate or heal, love or loathe, find > > > beautiful or ugly...I'm scared to die to that self that buries > the > > > truth of the origin, and end, and now, of all 'known' being....I > > fear > > > and hate that which to my delusional and seperate existance must > > > needs be and remain to be the 'unknown'..contained never' and > > > forevermore and always, in any thought or experience of that > > seperate > > > self illusion.... and I hate to say it, and I hate to write it, > and > > I > > > hate hating it... to a point that is sadly, some steps shy of > that > > > death that is the grace and redemption of missing the mark of > truth > > > (sin). This is no aplogy...this is no sufference of > > humility ...this > > > is no hearts and flowers..this is no hard feelings nor good > > > feelings...this is not a thought...this is truth....and I hate it > > as > > > much as anyone and that too is the truth....all and every thing' > > and > > > soul' hate the truth and will till they wont... and then it is to > > > late....then every thing and soul is no more...and is no more > what > > it > > > was thought to be... and ceases sitting on the throne they never > > > owned nor ruled..then the truth of what really is......is.....and > > > there is no posting. > > > > > > > > > ........bob (a part of the illusion... till not) > > > > > > > I *love* such to-the-bone speaking > > of truth > > > > Bill > > > and i appreciate you saying that > > ...even though I 'hate' saying so..(this part is just a funny) > > ;-) > pax vobicom Bill Sorry...that's pax vobiscum, Bill " I gotta stop and read these before hitting send " .....bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 3, 2006 Report Share Posted June 3, 2006 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " <pliantheart@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > I hate spiritual lies....that's a religious truth with > me.......I > > > > sometimes hate the truth...when I hate anything it is because > it > > > is > > > > the truth.....that's why I would say " hit me hard...really > > fucking > > > > hard.....with what is true " ......that hate.....that's the tip > > > > off.......if I hate something said or done......there is > > something > > > > about me that I see in that statement or action that I dislike > > unto > > > > hate.......elstwise I would not have been brought to reaction > > from > > > > the being of direct action.....what is it in the truth that > seems > > > so > > > > hateful?...it is my own insignificance.....my own delusion > being > > > > shattered..the one that says it's all about me.....and worse > > > > yet....because this awareness has been caused and risen in > > me....I > > > > now change the target of that hate......now not towards the > truth > > > > that I so hate...now it is the 'other' that has said the things > > > that > > > > have brought me to that humble and glorious truth. If I so love > > the > > > > world as to lose my life/self, to gain the World that is > already > > my > > > > treasure.......than I must realize that 'hate'.. is the keeping > > of > > > > that very 'other' that keeps me from losing that very > > > self/mind/life > > > > that creates the 'world' and obscures the 'World'. There is no > > one > > > > here to comfort my afflictions nor celebrate my > > victories......only > > > > my own thoughts create those victories..afflictions..wins and > > > losses, > > > > self and other. any and all words used to tell the truth of > that > > > are > > > > deemed hateful by the obscured radiance that is my being- time > as > > > > self.......in Light there is none of it....not victory nor > defeat > > > nor > > > > winning nor losing and.....darkly(to the beclouded > > > refulgence) ....no > > > > caring about any of it or any selves......where there is care > > there > > > > is uncaring....where there is love there is hate....where there > > is > > > me > > > > there is you... where there is a world of reality there is a > > world > > > of > > > > illusiion ...where there is truth....there is none of this nor > > > > that...there is truth period. and no matter what words are used > > to > > > > tell of that....they will sound hateful...because I hate the > > > > truth....what words will cause me to jump up and yell with > > > > madness?..what words will sink me further into illusion..fuck? > > > > pisshead?..shit stick?........penis breath?......what do any of > > > those > > > > words have to do with my survuval?....that's what's threatened > in > > > the > > > > delusional mind, if anger is resulting...the survival of my > self > > > > deceit is threatened and I'm scared as hell of losing that > > > delusion, > > > > and not having anything to hate or heal, love or loathe, find > > > > beautiful or ugly...I'm scared to die to that self that buries > > the > > > > truth of the origin, and end, and now, of all 'known' > being....I > > > fear > > > > and hate that which to my delusional and seperate existance > must > > > > needs be and remain to be the 'unknown'..contained never' and > > > > forevermore and always, in any thought or experience of that > > > seperate > > > > self illusion.... and I hate to say it, and I hate to write it, > > and > > > I > > > > hate hating it... to a point that is sadly, some steps shy of > > that > > > > death that is the grace and redemption of missing the mark of > > truth > > > > (sin). This is no aplogy...this is no sufference of > > > humility ...this > > > > is no hearts and flowers..this is no hard feelings nor good > > > > feelings...this is not a thought...this is truth....and I hate > it > > > as > > > > much as anyone and that too is the truth....all and every > thing' > > > and > > > > soul' hate the truth and will till they wont... and then it is > to > > > > late....then every thing and soul is no more...and is no more > > what > > > it > > > > was thought to be... and ceases sitting on the throne they > never > > > > owned nor ruled..then the truth of what really > is......is.....and > > > > there is no posting. > > > > > > > > > > > > ........bob (a part of the illusion... till not) > > > > > > > > > > I *love* such to-the-bone speaking > > > of truth > > > > > > Bill > > > > > > and i appreciate you saying that > > > > ...even though I 'hate' saying so..(this part is just a funny) > > > > ;-) > > pax vobicom Bill > > > Sorry...that's pax vobiscum, Bill > > " I gotta stop and read these before hitting send " > > .....bob > Et Cum spiri tuo " And with thy spirit. " ;-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 3, 2006 Report Share Posted June 3, 2006 Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <anabebe57 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " > <pliantheart@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > I hate spiritual lies....that's a religious truth with > > me.......I > > > > > sometimes hate the truth...when I hate anything it is > because > > it > > > > is > > > > > the truth.....that's why I would say " hit me hard...really > > > fucking > > > > > hard.....with what is true " ......that hate.....that's the > tip > > > > > off.......if I hate something said or done......there is > > > something > > > > > about me that I see in that statement or action that I > dislike > > > unto > > > > > hate.......elstwise I would not have been brought to > reaction > > > from > > > > > the being of direct action.....what is it in the truth that > > seems > > > > so > > > > > hateful?...it is my own insignificance.....my own delusion > > being > > > > > shattered..the one that says it's all about me.....and worse > > > > > yet....because this awareness has been caused and risen in > > > me....I > > > > > now change the target of that hate......now not towards the > > truth > > > > > that I so hate...now it is the 'other' that has said the > things > > > > that > > > > > have brought me to that humble and glorious truth. If I so > love > > > the > > > > > world as to lose my life/self, to gain the World that is > > already > > > my > > > > > treasure.......than I must realize that 'hate'.. is the > keeping > > > of > > > > > that very 'other' that keeps me from losing that very > > > > self/mind/life > > > > > that creates the 'world' and obscures the 'World'. There is > no > > > one > > > > > here to comfort my afflictions nor celebrate my > > > victories......only > > > > > my own thoughts create those victories..afflictions..wins > and > > > > losses, > > > > > self and other. any and all words used to tell the truth of > > that > > > > are > > > > > deemed hateful by the obscured radiance that is my being- > time > > as > > > > > self.......in Light there is none of it....not victory nor > > defeat > > > > nor > > > > > winning nor losing and.....darkly(to the beclouded > > > > refulgence) ....no > > > > > caring about any of it or any selves......where there is > care > > > there > > > > > is uncaring....where there is love there is hate....where > there > > > is > > > > me > > > > > there is you... where there is a world of reality there is a > > > world > > > > of > > > > > illusiion ...where there is truth....there is none of this > nor > > > > > that...there is truth period. and no matter what words are > used > > > to > > > > > tell of that....they will sound hateful...because I hate the > > > > > truth....what words will cause me to jump up and yell with > > > > > madness?..what words will sink me further into > illusion..fuck? > > > > > pisshead?..shit stick?........penis breath?......what do any > of > > > > those > > > > > words have to do with my survuval?....that's what's > threatened > > in > > > > the > > > > > delusional mind, if anger is resulting...the survival of my > > self > > > > > deceit is threatened and I'm scared as hell of losing that > > > > delusion, > > > > > and not having anything to hate or heal, love or loathe, > find > > > > > beautiful or ugly...I'm scared to die to that self that > buries > > > the > > > > > truth of the origin, and end, and now, of all 'known' > > being....I > > > > fear > > > > > and hate that which to my delusional and seperate existance > > must > > > > > needs be and remain to be the 'unknown'..contained never' > and > > > > > forevermore and always, in any thought or experience of that > > > > seperate > > > > > self illusion.... and I hate to say it, and I hate to write > it, > > > and > > > > I > > > > > hate hating it... to a point that is sadly, some steps shy > of > > > that > > > > > death that is the grace and redemption of missing the mark > of > > > truth > > > > > (sin). This is no aplogy...this is no sufference of > > > > humility ...this > > > > > is no hearts and flowers..this is no hard feelings nor good > > > > > feelings...this is not a thought...this is truth....and I > hate > > it > > > > as > > > > > much as anyone and that too is the truth....all and every > > thing' > > > > and > > > > > soul' hate the truth and will till they wont... and then it > is > > to > > > > > late....then every thing and soul is no more...and is no > more > > > what > > > > it > > > > > was thought to be... and ceases sitting on the throne they > > never > > > > > owned nor ruled..then the truth of what really > > is......is.....and > > > > > there is no posting. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ........bob (a part of the illusion... till not) > > > > > > > > > > > > > I *love* such to-the-bone speaking > > > > of truth > > > > > > > > Bill > > > > > > > > > and i appreciate you saying that > > > > > > ...even though I 'hate' saying so..(this part is just a funny) > > > > > > ;-) > > > pax vobicom Bill > > > > > > Sorry...that's pax vobiscum, Bill > > > > " I gotta stop and read these before hitting send " > > > > .....bob > > > > Et Cum spiri tuo " And with thy spirit. " > > ;-) > Amen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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