Guest guest Posted June 3, 2006 Report Share Posted June 3, 2006 Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " <pliantheart wrote: > the existential struggle in which > freedom is not is a miring in words, > and words will not dispel it. > > something much stronger is needed to > cut that grease. > > Nisargadatta spoke of earnestness and > intensity. > > Whether those are sufficient conditions, > certainly they are necessary. > > > Bill I agree, Bill. " The Tao is not won by gaining, but loss upon loss ... " Lao Tzu One doesn't go under or around, one must go through to the other side. Although this is the other side, there is no way to know this, without going through the abyss, the loss, the dissolution. To say that what dissolves never existed, only makes sense when loss is fully accepted. Loss of the previous history, context, story, and emotional attachments collected as me -- this is not an easy deal. It amounts to loss of self, world, and all associated relationships and meaning. But because all of that is based on maintaining an inherent split, there is no way to know " what is so " and avoid going through that loss. And there is no special state that is arrived at. It's just daily life and all its travails, and the day by day losses that are our *openness* -- our *vulnerability* as you've pointed out. It is through dying that our openness is understood, and indeed, is possible. -- Dan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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