Guest guest Posted June 4, 2006 Report Share Posted June 4, 2006 In a message dated 6/4/2006 2:10:58 AM Pacific Daylight Time, hyl894t writes: > Yet; " Now I know nothing, for all knowledge is in dream only and not > valid. I know myself and I find no life nor death in me, only pure > being, not being this or that, but just being. " Niz > > Knowing nothing must truely be the greatest knowledge! > L.E: It's difficult to realize this when you are digging holes all day for fifty cents an hour, or scrounging for food behind McDonalds. Yet, it can be done, sometimes, by a very few. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 4, 2006 Report Share Posted June 4, 2006 Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " Mats " <hyl894t@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Mats " <hyl894t@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > <Roberibus111@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > The true teacher IS Freedom.......and he sets about to free > > you > > > > from > > > > > > ALL bondage from the first moment of contact. - He will not > > abide > > > > > with > > > > > > any posturing and bowing. > > > > > > It's only your own resistance that stand in the way of > > immediate > > > > > > release. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I guess it takes courage or mindlessness to be free. > > > > > But then, we're free already so who needs courage or a mind? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Correct > > > > > > Being correct has nothing to do with freedom. > > > > > > Saying that everyone is free from the beginning is just an idea > > > overheard -- a repetition of gossip. (unless one knows one's being > > > " prior to conditions " -- and fully within and as conditions: " from > > > balls to bone " as the Oracle said to Neo.) > > > > > > True, this is not a personal possession, and doesn't depend on > > > personally acquired qualities like courage or an imaginary mind of > > > one's own. > > > > > > Yet, apart from your personal being as it is right now, there is no > > > way to know this as is (not from an outside position). > > > > > > It's not by getting rid of one's personal being that truth is > > > understood -- so back one comes to courage, commitment, and > > > responsibility -- just no imputation of a separable being that does > > > those things! > > > > > > -- Dan > > > > > > > > > So you'd like to be courageous, committed and responsible without > > separable being? > > Free your mind Dan! (As Morpheus said to Neo) > > Is there such a thing as courage without separable being? > > > > 1500 The devil made her do it, burn the witch! > > 1976 My ego makes me do it, but hey I'm innocent! > > 2006 ....................................... > > Mats - > > I don't think you hear what I'm saying. > > And that's just how it is. > > There is no separable being, ever, never has been, never could be. > > And yes, there is courage. > > Unless one is blind. > > A firefighter goes into a burning building and rescues a child. > > Lungs damaged for the rest of his life from smoke inhalation. > > But clever advaita talk will say, " oh well, that's just how it > happened, there is no separate self, no choice, so no one to gain any > merit for a so-called courageous act. " > > Some who have read some advaita are way too clever now to be fooled by > ideas like " courage. " Those ideas just don't apply, thanks to the > wonderful insight that no one is there. > > Unfortunately, I won't be able to explain further what this is, when > there is courage, but not a separable someone being courageous. > > One knows this because it is so for the one who knows it, or one > doesn't see it. > > And that is just how it is. > > But we all know there is no one there, so who is to know it? > > Smiling, > > Dan > Exactly, what the bleep do we know? Being no knower can there be any knowing? Being no knowing can there be anything to know? Yet; " Now I know nothing, for all knowledge is in dream only and not valid. I know myself and I find no life nor death in me, only pure being, not being this or that, but just being. " Niz Knowing nothing must truely be the greatest knowledge! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 4, 2006 Report Share Posted June 4, 2006 Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " Mats " <hyl894t@> wrote: > > > Exactly, what the bleep do we know? > > Being no knower can there be any knowing? > > Being no knowing can there be anything to know? > > > > Yet; " Now I know nothing, for all knowledge is in dream only and not > > valid. I know myself and I find no life nor death in me, only pure > > being, not being this or that, but just being. " Niz > > > > Knowing nothing must truely be the greatest knowledge! > > Hey Mats - > > This " knowing nothing " is only deferred imaginarily. > > It's like the emperor's new clothes. > > I know nothing, can know nothing, right now. > > But the world says there are things I know. > > I get paid for knowing things. > > Yet, clearly, right now, there is not a single thing I know. > > I can say this in words, as if I know the words to use. > > But I don't, and haven't said anything. > > -- Dan > I probably couldn't have said it any better, so I won't! ;-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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