Guest guest Posted June 6, 2006 Report Share Posted June 6, 2006 Something I just wrote for a friend who expressed feeling stress, and thought to share it with this group. - Bill ...... just return again and again to your heart. the mind experiences stress. the heart is simply with what is. when you realize that stress is just a reminder that you mind has taken over, you can see stress as a wonderful blessing that tells you something very important: you've left your heart and gone into your mind! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 6, 2006 Report Share Posted June 6, 2006 Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " <pliantheart wrote: > > Something I just wrote for a friend who expressed > feeling stress, and thought to share it with this > group. - Bill > ..... > > > just return again and again to your heart. > > the mind experiences stress. > > the heart is simply with what is. > > when you realize that stress is just a reminder > that you mind has taken over, you can see > stress as a wonderful blessing that tells you > something very important: you've left your > heart and gone into your mind! > And if that doesn't work.........task a zanex. toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 6, 2006 Report Share Posted June 6, 2006 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " <pliantheart@> > wrote: > > > > Something I just wrote for a friend who expressed > > feeling stress, and thought to share it with this > > group. - Bill > > ..... > > > > > > just return again and again to your heart. > > > > the mind experiences stress. > > > > the heart is simply with what is. > > > > when you realize that stress is just a reminder > > that you mind has taken over, you can see > > stress as a wonderful blessing that tells you > > something very important: you've left your > > heart and gone into your mind! > > > > > > And if that doesn't work.........task a zanex. > > > toombaru > .....you've left your heart and gone into your mind! there it is...in those exact words...perfect this " left " is the beginning of all so-called problems... not only " stress " ... and the end of all so-called problems is this staying in heartland - whatever the mind is offering...not going there...not playing that game... this is the end of all...not going...just staying no more leaving (heart) - (no more going into mind)...iietsa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 6, 2006 Report Share Posted June 6, 2006 Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " <pliantheart@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Something I just wrote for a friend who expressed > > > feeling stress, and thought to share it with this > > > group. - Bill > > > ..... > > > > > > > > > just return again and again to your heart. > > > > > > the mind experiences stress. > > > > > > the heart is simply with what is. > > > > > > when you realize that stress is just a reminder > > > that you mind has taken over, you can see > > > stress as a wonderful blessing that tells you > > > something very important: you've left your > > > heart and gone into your mind! > > > > > > > > > > > And if that doesn't work.........task a zanex. > > > > > > toombaru > > > ....you've left your heart and gone into your mind! > there it is...in those exact words...perfect > this " left " is the beginning of all so-called problems... > not only " stress " ... > > and the end of all so-called problems is this > staying in heartland - > whatever the mind is offering...not going there...not playing that > game... > this is the end of all...not going...just staying > no more leaving (heart) - (no more going into mind)...iietsa > Techniques to relieve stress is like sewing with scissors. toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 6, 2006 Report Share Posted June 6, 2006 Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " <pliantheart@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Something I just wrote for a friend who expressed > > > feeling stress, and thought to share it with this > > > group. - Bill > > > ..... > > > > > > > > > just return again and again to your heart. > > > > > > the mind experiences stress. > > > > > > the heart is simply with what is. > > > > > > when you realize that stress is just a reminder > > > that you mind has taken over, you can see > > > stress as a wonderful blessing that tells you > > > something very important: you've left your > > > heart and gone into your mind! > > > > > > > > > > > And if that doesn't work.........task a zanex. > > > > > > toombaru > > > ....you've left your heart and gone into your mind! > there it is...in those exact words...perfect > this " left " is the beginning of all so-called problems... > not only " stress " ... > > and the end of all so-called problems is this > staying in heartland - > whatever the mind is offering...not going there...not playing that > game... > this is the end of all...not going...just staying > no more leaving (heart) - (no more going into mind)...iietsa > thank you iietsa... beautiful Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 7, 2006 Report Share Posted June 7, 2006 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " <pliantheart@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Something I just wrote for a friend who expressed > > > > feeling stress, and thought to share it with this > > > > group. - Bill > > > > ..... > > > > > > > > > > > > just return again and again to your heart. > > > > > > > > the mind experiences stress. > > > > > > > > the heart is simply with what is. > > > > > > > > when you realize that stress is just a reminder > > > > that you mind has taken over, you can see > > > > stress as a wonderful blessing that tells you > > > > something very important: you've left your > > > > heart and gone into your mind! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And if that doesn't work.........task a zanex. > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > ....you've left your heart and gone into your mind! > > there it is...in those exact words...perfect > > this " left " is the beginning of all so-called problems... > > not only " stress " ... > > > > and the end of all so-called problems is this > > staying in heartland - > > whatever the mind is offering...not going there...not playing that > > game... > > this is the end of all...not going...just staying > > no more leaving (heart) - (no more going into mind)...iietsa > > > > > > > Techniques to relieve stress is like sewing with scissors. > > > > toombaru oh toombaru! are you really that dense or just sooo totally committed to one-ups-manship? [i suppose both are possible... commitment to one-ups-manship engenders a blindness to really seeing what the other is saying.] Maybe that is intrinsic to your thing about these messages only being exchanges with yourself? What the so-called " other " is saying... not that important? So it would seem anyway. I must give up the notion that it is not futile to try to communicate with you... Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 7, 2006 Report Share Posted June 7, 2006 Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " <pliantheart@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Something I just wrote for a friend who expressed > > > feeling stress, and thought to share it with this > > > group. - Bill > > > ..... > > > > > > > > > just return again and again to your heart. > > > > > > the mind experiences stress. > > > > > > the heart is simply with what is. > > > > > > when you realize that stress is just a reminder > > > that you mind has taken over, you can see > > > stress as a wonderful blessing that tells you > > > something very important: you've left your > > > heart and gone into your mind! > > > > > > > > > > > And if that doesn't work.........task a zanex. > > > > > > toombaru > > > ....you've left your heart and gone into your mind! > there it is...in those exact words...perfect > this " left " is the beginning of all so-called problems... > not only " stress " ... > > and the end of all so-called problems is this > staying in heartland - > whatever the mind is offering...not going there...not playing that > game... > this is the end of all...not going...just staying > no more leaving (heart) - (no more going into mind)...iietsa > The attempt to 'stay in the heartland' is merely one more futile attempt to avoid the stress of identification. It is a bromide for a condition that does not exist. How's it workin out for you so far? toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 7, 2006 Report Share Posted June 7, 2006 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " <pliantheart@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Something I just wrote for a friend who expressed > > > > feeling stress, and thought to share it with this > > > > group. - Bill > > > > ..... > > > > > > > > > > > > just return again and again to your heart. > > > > > > > > the mind experiences stress. > > > > > > > > the heart is simply with what is. > > > > > > > > when you realize that stress is just a reminder > > > > that you mind has taken over, you can see > > > > stress as a wonderful blessing that tells you > > > > something very important: you've left your > > > > heart and gone into your mind! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And if that doesn't work.........task a zanex. > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > ....you've left your heart and gone into your mind! > > there it is...in those exact words...perfect > > this " left " is the beginning of all so-called problems... > > not only " stress " ... > > > > and the end of all so-called problems is this > > staying in heartland - > > whatever the mind is offering...not going there...not playing that > > game... > > this is the end of all...not going...just staying > > no more leaving (heart) - (no more going into mind)...iietsa > > > > > > > Techniques to relieve stress is like sewing with scissors. > > > > toombaru > neither scissors nor sewing is needed toombaru. I am not offering another path to walk down this " no more leaving (heart) - (no more going into mind)... " is not a technique...it is not something you do... it is simly who you are...allready... listen carefully... " (no more going into mind)... " " no more leaving (heart) " ....iietsa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 7, 2006 Report Share Posted June 7, 2006 Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " > <pliantheart@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Something I just wrote for a friend who expressed > > > > > feeling stress, and thought to share it with this > > > > > group. - Bill > > > > > ..... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > just return again and again to your heart. > > > > > > > > > > the mind experiences stress. > > > > > > > > > > the heart is simply with what is. > > > > > > > > > > when you realize that stress is just a reminder > > > > > that you mind has taken over, you can see > > > > > stress as a wonderful blessing that tells you > > > > > something very important: you've left your > > > > > heart and gone into your mind! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And if that doesn't work.........task a zanex. > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > ....you've left your heart and gone into your mind! > > > there it is...in those exact words...perfect > > > this " left " is the beginning of all so-called problems... > > > not only " stress " ... > > > > > > and the end of all so-called problems is this > > > staying in heartland - > > > whatever the mind is offering...not going there...not playing > that > > > game... > > > this is the end of all...not going...just staying > > > no more leaving (heart) - (no more going into mind)...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > Techniques to relieve stress is like sewing with scissors. > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > neither scissors nor sewing is needed toombaru. > I am not offering another path to walk down > this " no more leaving (heart) - (no more going into mind)... " > is not a technique...it is not something you do... > it is simly who you are...allready... > listen carefully... > " (no more going into mind)... " > " no more leaving (heart) " > ...iietsa > It's another manicured mind maze. The self help section has hundreds of them. There is one very good reason that they never work. Can you guess what that is? toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 7, 2006 Report Share Posted June 7, 2006 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " > > <pliantheart@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Something I just wrote for a friend who expressed > > > > > > feeling stress, and thought to share it with this > > > > > > group. - Bill > > > > > > ..... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > just return again and again to your heart. > > > > > > > > > > > > the mind experiences stress. > > > > > > > > > > > > the heart is simply with what is. > > > > > > > > > > > > when you realize that stress is just a reminder > > > > > > that you mind has taken over, you can see > > > > > > stress as a wonderful blessing that tells you > > > > > > something very important: you've left your > > > > > > heart and gone into your mind! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And if that doesn't work.........task a zanex. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > ....you've left your heart and gone into your mind! > > > > there it is...in those exact words...perfect > > > > this " left " is the beginning of all so-called problems... > > > > not only " stress " ... > > > > > > > > and the end of all so-called problems is this > > > > staying in heartland - > > > > whatever the mind is offering...not going there...not playing > > that > > > > game... > > > > this is the end of all...not going...just staying > > > > no more leaving (heart) - (no more going into mind)...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Techniques to relieve stress is like sewing with scissors. > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > neither scissors nor sewing is needed toombaru. > > I am not offering another path to walk down > > this " no more leaving (heart) - (no more going into mind)... " > > is not a technique...it is not something you do... > > it is simly who you are...allready... > > listen carefully... > > " (no more going into mind)... " > > " no more leaving (heart) " > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > It's another manicured mind maze. > > The self help section has hundreds of them. > > There is one very good reason that they never work. > > Can you guess what that is? > > > toombaru just be ...this is not something dual there is only one...ok not a me who is trying to be sobething ...just being...only being...iietsa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 7, 2006 Report Share Posted June 7, 2006 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " > > <pliantheart@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Something I just wrote for a friend who expressed > > > > > > feeling stress, and thought to share it with this > > > > > > group. - Bill > > > > > > ..... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > just return again and again to your heart. > > > > > > > > > > > > the mind experiences stress. > > > > > > > > > > > > the heart is simply with what is. > > > > > > > > > > > > when you realize that stress is just a reminder > > > > > > that you mind has taken over, you can see > > > > > > stress as a wonderful blessing that tells you > > > > > > something very important: you've left your > > > > > > heart and gone into your mind! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And if that doesn't work.........task a zanex. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > ....you've left your heart and gone into your mind! > > > > there it is...in those exact words...perfect > > > > this " left " is the beginning of all so-called problems... > > > > not only " stress " ... > > > > > > > > and the end of all so-called problems is this > > > > staying in heartland - > > > > whatever the mind is offering...not going there...not playing > > that > > > > game... > > > > this is the end of all...not going...just staying > > > > no more leaving (heart) - (no more going into mind)...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Techniques to relieve stress is like sewing with scissors. > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > neither scissors nor sewing is needed toombaru. > > I am not offering another path to walk down > > this " no more leaving (heart) - (no more going into mind)... " > > is not a technique...it is not something you do... > > it is simly who you are...allready... > > listen carefully... > > " (no more going into mind)... " > > " no more leaving (heart) " > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > It's another manicured mind maze. > > The self help section has hundreds of them. > > There is one very good reason that they never work. > > Can you guess what that is? > > > toombaru re: > > listen carefully... words to the obtuse... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 7, 2006 Report Share Posted June 7, 2006 Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " > <lastrain@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " > > > <pliantheart@> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Something I just wrote for a friend who expressed > > > > > > > feeling stress, and thought to share it with this > > > > > > > group. - Bill > > > > > > > ..... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > just return again and again to your heart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the mind experiences stress. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the heart is simply with what is. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > when you realize that stress is just a reminder > > > > > > > that you mind has taken over, you can see > > > > > > > stress as a wonderful blessing that tells you > > > > > > > something very important: you've left your > > > > > > > heart and gone into your mind! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And if that doesn't work.........task a zanex. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > ....you've left your heart and gone into your mind! > > > > > there it is...in those exact words...perfect > > > > > this " left " is the beginning of all so-called problems... > > > > > not only " stress " ... > > > > > > > > > > and the end of all so-called problems is this > > > > > staying in heartland - > > > > > whatever the mind is offering...not going there...not > playing > > > that > > > > > game... > > > > > this is the end of all...not going...just staying > > > > > no more leaving (heart) - (no more going into mind)...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Techniques to relieve stress is like sewing with scissors. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > neither scissors nor sewing is needed toombaru. > > > I am not offering another path to walk down > > > this " no more leaving (heart) - (no more going into mind)... " > > > is not a technique...it is not something you do... > > > it is simly who you are...allready... > > > listen carefully... > > > " (no more going into mind)... " > > > " no more leaving (heart) " > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > It's another manicured mind maze. > > > > The self help section has hundreds of them. > > > > There is one very good reason that they never work. > > > > Can you guess what that is? > > > > > > toombaru > > > > just be ...this is not something dual > there is only one...ok > not a me who is trying to be sobething > ...just being...only being...iietsa > The problem is you love of being. toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 7, 2006 Report Share Posted June 7, 2006 Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " <pliantheart wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " > > > <pliantheart@> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Something I just wrote for a friend who expressed > > > > > > > feeling stress, and thought to share it with this > > > > > > > group. - Bill > > > > > > > ..... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > just return again and again to your heart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the mind experiences stress. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the heart is simply with what is. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > when you realize that stress is just a reminder > > > > > > > that you mind has taken over, you can see > > > > > > > stress as a wonderful blessing that tells you > > > > > > > something very important: you've left your > > > > > > > heart and gone into your mind! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And if that doesn't work.........task a zanex. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > ....you've left your heart and gone into your mind! > > > > > there it is...in those exact words...perfect > > > > > this " left " is the beginning of all so-called problems... > > > > > not only " stress " ... > > > > > > > > > > and the end of all so-called problems is this > > > > > staying in heartland - > > > > > whatever the mind is offering...not going there...not playing > > > that > > > > > game... > > > > > this is the end of all...not going...just staying > > > > > no more leaving (heart) - (no more going into mind)...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Techniques to relieve stress is like sewing with scissors. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > neither scissors nor sewing is needed toombaru. > > > I am not offering another path to walk down > > > this " no more leaving (heart) - (no more going into mind)... " > > > is not a technique...it is not something you do... > > > it is simly who you are...allready... > > > listen carefully... > > > " (no more going into mind)... " > > > " no more leaving (heart) " > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > It's another manicured mind maze. > > > > The self help section has hundreds of them. > > > > There is one very good reason that they never work. > > > > Can you guess what that is? > > > > > > toombaru > > re: > > > listen carefully... > > words to the obtuse... > There is only one language spoken at Zombie Jamboree. toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 7, 2006 Report Share Posted June 7, 2006 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " > > <lastrain@> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " > > > > <pliantheart@> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Something I just wrote for a friend who expressed > > > > > > > > feeling stress, and thought to share it with this > > > > > > > > group. - Bill > > > > > > > > ..... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > just return again and again to your heart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the mind experiences stress. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the heart is simply with what is. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > when you realize that stress is just a reminder > > > > > > > > that you mind has taken over, you can see > > > > > > > > stress as a wonderful blessing that tells you > > > > > > > > something very important: you've left your > > > > > > > > heart and gone into your mind! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And if that doesn't work.........task a zanex. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > ....you've left your heart and gone into your mind! > > > > > > there it is...in those exact words...perfect > > > > > > this " left " is the beginning of all so-called problems... > > > > > > not only " stress " ... > > > > > > > > > > > > and the end of all so-called problems is this > > > > > > staying in heartland - > > > > > > whatever the mind is offering...not going there...not > > playing > > > > that > > > > > > game... > > > > > > this is the end of all...not going...just staying > > > > > > no more leaving (heart) - (no more going into mind)...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Techniques to relieve stress is like sewing with scissors. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > neither scissors nor sewing is needed toombaru. > > > > I am not offering another path to walk down > > > > this " no more leaving (heart) - (no more going into mind)... " > > > > is not a technique...it is not something you do... > > > > it is simly who you are...allready... > > > > listen carefully... > > > > " (no more going into mind)... " > > > > " no more leaving (heart) " > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It's another manicured mind maze. > > > > > > The self help section has hundreds of them. > > > > > > There is one very good reason that they never work. > > > > > > Can you guess what that is? > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > just be ...this is not something dual > > there is only one...ok > > not a me who is trying to be sobething > > ...just being...only being...iietsa > > > > > > The problem is you love of being. > > > > toombaru > you are just writing to yourself, right? that is a message to toombaru, correct? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 7, 2006 Report Share Posted June 7, 2006 Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " <pliantheart wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " > > > <lastrain@> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " > > > > > <pliantheart@> > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Something I just wrote for a friend who expressed > > > > > > > > > feeling stress, and thought to share it with this > > > > > > > > > group. - Bill > > > > > > > > > ..... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > just return again and again to your heart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the mind experiences stress. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the heart is simply with what is. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > when you realize that stress is just a reminder > > > > > > > > > that you mind has taken over, you can see > > > > > > > > > stress as a wonderful blessing that tells you > > > > > > > > > something very important: you've left your > > > > > > > > > heart and gone into your mind! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And if that doesn't work.........task a zanex. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ....you've left your heart and gone into your mind! > > > > > > > there it is...in those exact words...perfect > > > > > > > this " left " is the beginning of all so-called problems... > > > > > > > not only " stress " ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and the end of all so-called problems is this > > > > > > > staying in heartland - > > > > > > > whatever the mind is offering...not going there...not > > > playing > > > > > that > > > > > > > game... > > > > > > > this is the end of all...not going...just staying > > > > > > > no more leaving (heart) - (no more going into mind)...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Techniques to relieve stress is like sewing with scissors. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > neither scissors nor sewing is needed toombaru. > > > > > I am not offering another path to walk down > > > > > this " no more leaving (heart) - (no more going into mind)... " > > > > > is not a technique...it is not something you do... > > > > > it is simly who you are...allready... > > > > > listen carefully... > > > > > " (no more going into mind)... " > > > > > " no more leaving (heart) " > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It's another manicured mind maze. > > > > > > > > The self help section has hundreds of them. > > > > > > > > There is one very good reason that they never work. > > > > > > > > Can you guess what that is? > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > just be ...this is not something dual > > > there is only one...ok > > > not a me who is trying to be sobething > > > ...just being...only being...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > The problem is you love of being. > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > you are just writing to yourself, right? > that is a message to toombaru, correct? > Of course. There is only one here. toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 7, 2006 Report Share Posted June 7, 2006 <snip> > > > > > > > Techniques to relieve stress is like sewing with scissors. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > neither scissors nor sewing is needed toombaru. > > > > > > I am not offering another path to walk down > > > > > > this " no more leaving (heart) - (no more going into mind)... " > > > > > > is not a technique...it is not something you do... > > > > > > it is simly who you are...allready... > > > > > > listen carefully... > > > > > > " (no more going into mind)... " > > > > > > " no more leaving (heart) " > > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It's another manicured mind maze. > > > > > > > > > > The self help section has hundreds of them. > > > > > > > > > > There is one very good reason that they never work. > > > > > > > > > > Can you guess what that is? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > just be ...this is not something dual > > > > there is only one...ok > > > > not a me who is trying to be sobething > > > > ...just being...only being...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The problem is you love of being. > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > you are just writing to yourself, right? > > that is a message to toombaru, correct? > > > > > > Of course. > > > There is only one here. > > > > toombaru > so that means you are never *really* trying to make a point via what you write, since any point you might be trying to make, you already know (obviously). Correct? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 7, 2006 Report Share Posted June 7, 2006 Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " <pliantheart wrote: > > <snip> > > > > > > > > > Techniques to relieve stress is like sewing with scissors. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > neither scissors nor sewing is needed toombaru. > > > > > > > I am not offering another path to walk down > > > > > > > this " no more leaving (heart) - (no more going into mind)... " > > > > > > > is not a technique...it is not something you do... > > > > > > > it is simly who you are...allready... > > > > > > > listen carefully... > > > > > > > " (no more going into mind)... " > > > > > > > " no more leaving (heart) " > > > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It's another manicured mind maze. > > > > > > > > > > > > The self help section has hundreds of them. > > > > > > > > > > > > There is one very good reason that they never work. > > > > > > > > > > > > Can you guess what that is? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > just be ...this is not something dual > > > > > there is only one...ok > > > > > not a me who is trying to be sobething > > > > > ...just being...only being...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The problem is you love of being. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > you are just writing to yourself, right? > > > that is a message to toombaru, correct? > > > > > > > > > > > Of course. > > > > > > There is only one here. > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > so that means you are never *really* trying > to make a point via what you write, since > any point you might be trying to make, you > already know (obviously). Correct? > I think toombaru is pointing to the pointless. He has no point, which is the point. He's a minimalist in the best sense. Of course he can only deny this, since I'm not a minimalist, stylistically. But his pointlessness has some radical points. ~*~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 7, 2006 Report Share Posted June 7, 2006 Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " <pliantheart wrote: > > <snip> > > > > > > > > > Techniques to relieve stress is like sewing with scissors. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > neither scissors nor sewing is needed toombaru. > > > > > > > I am not offering another path to walk down > > > > > > > this " no more leaving (heart) - (no more going into mind)... " > > > > > > > is not a technique...it is not something you do... > > > > > > > it is simly who you are...allready... > > > > > > > listen carefully... > > > > > > > " (no more going into mind)... " > > > > > > > " no more leaving (heart) " > > > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It's another manicured mind maze. > > > > > > > > > > > > The self help section has hundreds of them. > > > > > > > > > > > > There is one very good reason that they never work. > > > > > > > > > > > > Can you guess what that is? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > just be ...this is not something dual > > > > > there is only one...ok > > > > > not a me who is trying to be sobething > > > > > ...just being...only being...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The problem is you love of being. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > you are just writing to yourself, right? > > > that is a message to toombaru, correct? > > > > > > > > > > > Of course. > > > > > > There is only one here. > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > so that means you are never *really* trying > to make a point via what you write, since > any point you might be trying to make, you > already know (obviously). Correct? Who is this 'you' thing......but a reflection within your own hall of mirrors? toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 7, 2006 Report Share Posted June 7, 2006 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " <pliantheart@> > wrote: > > > > <snip> > > > > > > > > > > > Techniques to relieve stress is like sewing with scissors. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > neither scissors nor sewing is needed toombaru. > > > > > > > > I am not offering another path to walk down > > > > > > > > this " no more leaving (heart) - (no more going into > mind)... " > > > > > > > > is not a technique...it is not something you do... > > > > > > > > it is simly who you are...allready... > > > > > > > > listen carefully... > > > > > > > > " (no more going into mind)... " > > > > > > > > " no more leaving (heart) " > > > > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It's another manicured mind maze. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The self help section has hundreds of them. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There is one very good reason that they never work. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Can you guess what that is? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > just be ...this is not something dual > > > > > > there is only one...ok > > > > > > not a me who is trying to be sobething > > > > > > ...just being...only being...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The problem is you love of being. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > you are just writing to yourself, right? > > > > that is a message to toombaru, correct? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Of course. > > > > > > > > > There is only one here. > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > so that means you are never *really* trying > > to make a point via what you write, since > > any point you might be trying to make, you > > already know (obviously). Correct? > > > > Who is this 'you' thing......but a reflection within your own hall of > mirrors? > One studies the mirror....and complains because it can't find the original. toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 7, 2006 Report Share Posted June 7, 2006 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " <pliantheart@> > wrote: > > > > <snip> > > > > > > > > > > > Techniques to relieve stress is like sewing with scissors. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > neither scissors nor sewing is needed toombaru. > > > > > > > > I am not offering another path to walk down > > > > > > > > this " no more leaving (heart) - (no more going into > mind)... " > > > > > > > > is not a technique...it is not something you do... > > > > > > > > it is simly who you are...allready... > > > > > > > > listen carefully... > > > > > > > > " (no more going into mind)... " > > > > > > > > " no more leaving (heart) " > > > > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It's another manicured mind maze. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The self help section has hundreds of them. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There is one very good reason that they never work. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Can you guess what that is? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > just be ...this is not something dual > > > > > > there is only one...ok > > > > > > not a me who is trying to be sobething > > > > > > ...just being...only being...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The problem is you love of being. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > you are just writing to yourself, right? > > > > that is a message to toombaru, correct? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Of course. > > > > > > > > > There is only one here. > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > so that means you are never *really* trying > > to make a point via what you write, since > > any point you might be trying to make, you > > already know (obviously). Correct? > > > > Who is this 'you' thing......but a reflection within your own hall of > mirrors? > > > toombaru such a silly game *you* play! how absurd! the name 'toombaru' is appended to myriad messages that pretend to communicate... so perhaps I dispense with the folly of this toombaru clown... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 7, 2006 Report Share Posted June 7, 2006 <snip> > > > > > > > Techniques to relieve stress is like sewing with scissors. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > neither scissors nor sewing is needed toombaru. > > > > > > I am not offering another path to walk down > > > > > > this " no more leaving (heart) - (no more going into mind)... " > > > > > > is not a technique...it is not something you do... > > > > > > it is simly who you are...allready... > > > > > > listen carefully... > > > > > > " (no more going into mind)... " > > > > > > " no more leaving (heart) " > > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It's another manicured mind maze. > > > > > > > > > > The self help section has hundreds of them. > > > > > > > > > > There is one very good reason that they never work. > > > > > > > > > > Can you guess what that is? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > just be ...this is not something dual > > > > there is only one...ok > > > > not a me who is trying to be sobething > > > > ...just being...only being...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The problem is you love of being. > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > you are just writing to yourself, right? > > that is a message to toombaru, correct? > > > > > > Of course. > > > There is only one here. > > > > toombaru > so that means you are never *really* trying to make a point via what you write, since any point you might be trying to make, you already know (obviously). Correct? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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