Guest guest Posted June 7, 2006 Report Share Posted June 7, 2006 L.E: The body is the reservoir of sensations. Touch a hot iron or burn yourself with a match. Taste is a body sensation isn't it. Hearing, smelling: this all relates to the body doesn't it? Then how about jealousy or envy or delight, or joy or happines? There are not physical are they? But where and how are they experienced? Are they just thoughts, or is there a physical component? Seems obvious to me, that these experiences are a combination of the mind and body. But then, can you even experience touch or hearing without the mental, the mind, and the brain? And then, is the brain and the mind the same thing? Not exactly, but there is a realtionship isn't there. No brain, no mind, no brain, no touch, smell or hearing. So brain must be central to all experience whether physical or emotional. Got to go. Students are comin in for period 4. To be continued. Larry Epston ______________________ Check out AOL.com today. Breaking news, video search, pictures, email and IM. All on demand. Always Free. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2006 Report Share Posted June 8, 2006 Nisargadatta , epston wrote: > > L.E: The body is the reservoir of sensations. Touch a hot iron or burn yourself with a match. Taste is a body sensation isn't it. Hearing, smelling: this all relates to the body doesn't it? Then how about jealousy or envy or delight, or joy or happines? There are not physical are they? But where and how are they experienced? Are they just thoughts, or is there a physical component? Seems obvious to me, that these experiences are a combination of the mind and body. But then, can you even experience touch or hearing without the mental, the mind, and the brain? And then, is the brain and the mind the same thing? Not exactly, but there is a realtionship isn't there. No brain, no mind, no brain, no touch, smell or hearing. So brain must be central to all experience whether physical or emotional. Got to go. Students are comin in for period 4. To be continued. > > Larry Epston > A thought is an imprint in a body-mind. Where do thoughts come from? When not imprinted? Originality? Creativity? Love? ___________________ ___ > Check out AOL.com today. Breaking news, video search, pictures, email and IM. All on demand. Always Free. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2006 Report Share Posted June 8, 2006 Nisargadatta , epston wrote: > > L.E: The body is the reservoir of sensations. Touch a hot iron or burn yourself with a match. Taste is a body sensation isn't it. Hearing, smelling: this all relates to the body doesn't it? Then how about jealousy or envy or delight, or joy or happines? There are not physical are they? But where and how are they experienced? Are they just thoughts, or is there a physical component? Seems obvious to me, that these experiences are a combination of the mind and body. But then, can you even experience touch or hearing without the mental, the mind, and the brain? And then, is the brain and the mind the same thing? Not exactly, but there is a realtionship isn't there. No brain, no mind, no brain, no touch, smell or hearing. So brain must be central to all experience whether physical or emotional. Got to go. Students are comin in for period 4. To be continued. > > Larry Epston Is this an exercise in reasoning? I read a couple of sentences and have to bail out, as I know already I don't want to go there. If a bunch of reasoning is involved I know already it is not going to add up. Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2006 Report Share Posted June 8, 2006 Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " <pliantheart wrote: > > Nisargadatta , epston@ wrote: > > > > L.E: The body is the reservoir of sensations. Touch a hot iron or > burn yourself with a match. Taste is a body sensation isn't it. > Hearing, smelling: this all relates to the body doesn't it? Then how > about jealousy or envy or delight, or joy or happines? There are not > physical are they? But where and how are they experienced? Are they > just thoughts, or is there a physical component? Seems obvious to me, > that these experiences are a combination of the mind and body. But > then, can you even experience touch or hearing without the mental, > the mind, and the brain? And then, is the brain and the mind the same > thing? Not exactly, but there is a realtionship isn't there. No > brain, no mind, no brain, no touch, smell or hearing. So brain must > be central to all experience whether physical or emotional. Got to > go. Students are comin in for period 4. To be continued. > > > > Larry Epston > > Is this an exercise in reasoning? > > I read a couple of sentences and have to bail out, > as I know already I don't want to go there. > > If a bunch of reasoning is involved > I know already > it is not going to add up. > > Bill > So much for It How about what you make of it? ~*~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2006 Report Share Posted June 8, 2006 Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " <skywords wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " <pliantheart@> > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , epston@ wrote: > > > > > > L.E: The body is the reservoir of sensations. Touch a hot iron or > > burn yourself with a match. Taste is a body sensation isn't it. > > Hearing, smelling: this all relates to the body doesn't it? Then how > > about jealousy or envy or delight, or joy or happines? There are not > > physical are they? But where and how are they experienced? Are they > > just thoughts, or is there a physical component? Seems obvious to me, > > that these experiences are a combination of the mind and body. But > > then, can you even experience touch or hearing without the mental, > > the mind, and the brain? And then, is the brain and the mind the same > > thing? Not exactly, but there is a realtionship isn't there. No > > brain, no mind, no brain, no touch, smell or hearing. So brain must > > be central to all experience whether physical or emotional. Got to > > go. Students are comin in for period 4. To be continued. > > > > > > Larry Epston > > > > Is this an exercise in reasoning? > > > > I read a couple of sentences and have to bail out, > > as I know already I don't want to go there. > > > > If a bunch of reasoning is involved > > I know already > > it is not going to add up. > > > > Bill > > > > > So much for It > How about what you make of it? > > ~*~ > I said what I had to say... nothing more and why ask? speak your words and leave me to speak mine as I will... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2006 Report Share Posted June 8, 2006 Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " <pliantheart wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " <skywords@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " <pliantheart@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , epston@ wrote: > > > > > > > > L.E: The body is the reservoir of sensations. Touch a hot > iron or > > > burn yourself with a match. Taste is a body sensation isn't it. > > > Hearing, smelling: this all relates to the body doesn't it? Then > how > > > about jealousy or envy or delight, or joy or happines? There are > not > > > physical are they? But where and how are they experienced? Are > they > > > just thoughts, or is there a physical component? Seems obvious > to me, > > > that these experiences are a combination of the mind and body. > But > > > then, can you even experience touch or hearing without the > mental, > > > the mind, and the brain? And then, is the brain and the mind the > same > > > thing? Not exactly, but there is a realtionship isn't there. No > > > brain, no mind, no brain, no touch, smell or hearing. So brain > must > > > be central to all experience whether physical or emotional. Got > to > > > go. Students are comin in for period 4. To be continued. > > > > > > > > Larry Epston > > > > > > Is this an exercise in reasoning? > > > > > > I read a couple of sentences and have to bail out, > > > as I know already I don't want to go there. > > > > > > If a bunch of reasoning is involved > > > I know already > > > it is not going to add up. > > > > > > Bill > > > > > > > > > So much for It > > How about what you make of it? > > > > ~*~ > > > > I said what I had to say... > nothing more > > and why ask? > > speak your words > and leave me to speak mine > as I will... > do you need my permission? ~*~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2006 Report Share Posted June 8, 2006 Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " <skywords wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " <pliantheart@> > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " <skywords@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " <pliantheart@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , epston@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > L.E: The body is the reservoir of sensations. Touch a hot > > iron or > > > > burn yourself with a match. Taste is a body sensation isn't it. > > > > Hearing, smelling: this all relates to the body doesn't it? Then > > how > > > > about jealousy or envy or delight, or joy or happines? There are > > not > > > > physical are they? But where and how are they experienced? Are > > they > > > > just thoughts, or is there a physical component? Seems obvious > > to me, > > > > that these experiences are a combination of the mind and body. > > But > > > > then, can you even experience touch or hearing without the > > mental, > > > > the mind, and the brain? And then, is the brain and the mind the > > same > > > > thing? Not exactly, but there is a realtionship isn't there. No > > > > brain, no mind, no brain, no touch, smell or hearing. So brain > > must > > > > be central to all experience whether physical or emotional. Got > > to > > > > go. Students are comin in for period 4. To be continued. > > > > > > > > > > Larry Epston > > > > > > > > Is this an exercise in reasoning? > > > > > > > > I read a couple of sentences and have to bail out, > > > > as I know already I don't want to go there. > > > > > > > > If a bunch of reasoning is involved > > > > I know already > > > > it is not going to add up. > > > > > > > > Bill > > > > > > > > > > > > > So much for It > > > How about what you make of it? > > > > > > ~*~ > > > > > > > I said what I had to say... > > nothing more > > > > and why ask? > > > > speak your words > > and leave me to speak mine > > as I will... > > > > > do you need my permission? > > ~*~ > God I do hope you are not a toombaru clone! I hate those trite little questions! If you have something to say, say it. You do know that asking questions is a form of control... surely. I'm letting myself happen here. I like it when you let yourself happen here. I don't like it when you try to *facilitate* my letting myself happen here. Is that clear enough? Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2006 Report Share Posted June 8, 2006 Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " <pliantheart wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " <skywords@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " <pliantheart@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " <skywords@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " > <pliantheart@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , epston@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > L.E: The body is the reservoir of sensations. Touch a hot > > > iron or > > > > > burn yourself with a match. Taste is a body sensation isn't > it. > > > > > Hearing, smelling: this all relates to the body doesn't it? > Then > > > how > > > > > about jealousy or envy or delight, or joy or happines? There > are > > > not > > > > > physical are they? But where and how are they experienced? > Are > > > they > > > > > just thoughts, or is there a physical component? Seems > obvious > > > to me, > > > > > that these experiences are a combination of the mind and > body. > > > But > > > > > then, can you even experience touch or hearing without the > > > mental, > > > > > the mind, and the brain? And then, is the brain and the mind > the > > > same > > > > > thing? Not exactly, but there is a realtionship isn't > there. No > > > > > brain, no mind, no brain, no touch, smell or hearing. So > brain > > > must > > > > > be central to all experience whether physical or emotional. > Got > > > to > > > > > go. Students are comin in for period 4. To be continued. > > > > > > > > > > > > Larry Epston > > > > > > > > > > Is this an exercise in reasoning? > > > > > > > > > > I read a couple of sentences and have to bail out, > > > > > as I know already I don't want to go there. > > > > > > > > > > If a bunch of reasoning is involved > > > > > I know already > > > > > it is not going to add up. > > > > > > > > > > Bill > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So much for It > > > > How about what you make of it? > > > > > > > > ~*~ > > > > > > > > > > I said what I had to say... > > > nothing more > > > > > > and why ask? > > > > > > speak your words > > > and leave me to speak mine > > > as I will... > > > > > > > > > do you need my permission? > > > > ~*~ > > > > God I do hope you are not a toombaru clone! > > I hate those trite little questions! > > If you have something to say, say it. > > You do know that asking questions is a form > of control... surely. > > I'm letting myself happen here. > I like it when you let yourself happen here. > I don't like it when you try to *facilitate* > my letting myself happen here. > Is that clear enough? > > Bill > Wow! More hair trigger temper persiflage. You do love the big rush of rage, as is so typical. So, what if I were a toombaru clone and all that you claim to go with it? I know you're on a good stream, but I am " amazed " (not really) that you're not getting my point. I prefer to be prosaic, anyway: it's not a trite question. I'm suggesting that you don't have to be attached to having the last word. If you say something and I respond, you don't have respond to my response, whether I'm right or not. All this talk about bob suggests to me that there's an absurd fixation on who's " in control. " And yet, everybody's also saying that nobody's in control. So, make up your words. " I don't like it when you try to *facilitate* my letting myself happen here. Is that clear enough? " Who cares, when you say it that way, is that clear? On the other hand, I can care. It IS my choice. Wow, now, it would be absurd for me to own any of this: I don't. I think it's irrelevant. I don't have to have the last word. Make of this what you will. Here's what I make of it: it's cure. :-)) ~*~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2006 Report Share Posted June 8, 2006 Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " <skywords wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " <pliantheart@> > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " <skywords@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " <pliantheart@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " <skywords@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " > > <pliantheart@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , epston@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > L.E: The body is the reservoir of sensations. Touch a hot > > > > iron or > > > > > > burn yourself with a match. Taste is a body sensation isn't > > it. > > > > > > Hearing, smelling: this all relates to the body doesn't it? > > Then > > > > how > > > > > > about jealousy or envy or delight, or joy or happines? There > > are > > > > not > > > > > > physical are they? But where and how are they experienced? > > Are > > > > they > > > > > > just thoughts, or is there a physical component? Seems > > obvious > > > > to me, > > > > > > that these experiences are a combination of the mind and > > body. > > > > But > > > > > > then, can you even experience touch or hearing without the > > > > mental, > > > > > > the mind, and the brain? And then, is the brain and the mind > > the > > > > same > > > > > > thing? Not exactly, but there is a realtionship isn't > > there. No > > > > > > brain, no mind, no brain, no touch, smell or hearing. So > > brain > > > > must > > > > > > be central to all experience whether physical or emotional. > > Got > > > > to > > > > > > go. Students are comin in for period 4. To be continued. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Larry Epston > > > > > > > > > > > > Is this an exercise in reasoning? > > > > > > > > > > > > I read a couple of sentences and have to bail out, > > > > > > as I know already I don't want to go there. > > > > > > > > > > > > If a bunch of reasoning is involved > > > > > > I know already > > > > > > it is not going to add up. > > > > > > > > > > > > Bill > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So much for It > > > > > How about what you make of it? > > > > > > > > > > ~*~ > > > > > > > > > > > > > I said what I had to say... > > > > nothing more > > > > > > > > and why ask? > > > > > > > > speak your words > > > > and leave me to speak mine > > > > as I will... > > > > > > > > > > > > > do you need my permission? > > > > > > ~*~ > > > > > > > God I do hope you are not a toombaru clone! > > > > I hate those trite little questions! > > > > If you have something to say, say it. > > > > You do know that asking questions is a form > > of control... surely. > > > > I'm letting myself happen here. > > I like it when you let yourself happen here. > > I don't like it when you try to *facilitate* > > my letting myself happen here. > > Is that clear enough? > > > > Bill > > > > > Wow! More hair trigger temper persiflage. You do love the big rush of > rage, as is so typical. > > So, what if I were a toombaru clone and all that you claim to go > with it? > > I know you're on a good stream, but I am " amazed " (not really) that > you're not getting my point. I prefer to be prosaic, anyway: it's > not a trite question. I'm suggesting that you don't have to be > attached to having the last word. If you say something and I respond, > you don't have respond to my response, whether I'm right or not. All > this talk about bob suggests to me that there's an absurd fixation on > who's " in control. " And yet, everybody's also saying that nobody's in > control. So, make up your words. > > " I don't like it when you try to *facilitate* > my letting myself happen here. Is that clear enough? " > > Who cares, when you say it that way, is that clear? On the other > hand, I can care. It IS my choice. > > Wow, now, it would be absurd for me to own any of this: I don't. I > think it's irrelevant. I don't have to have the last word. Make of > this what you will. > > Here's what I make of it: it's cure. > > :-)) > > ~*~ > beautiful point taken Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2006 Report Share Posted June 8, 2006 skywhilds <skywords Nisargadatta Thu, 8 Jun 2006 08:15:35 -0000 Re: What Is The Heart? Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " <pliantheart wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " <skywords@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " <pliantheart@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , epston@ wrote: > > > > > > > > L.E: The body is the reservoir of sensations. Touch a hot > iron or > > > burn yourself with a match. Taste is a body sensation isn't it. > > > Hearing, smelling: this all relates to the body doesn't it? Then > how > > > about jealousy or envy or delight, or joy or happines? There are > not > > > physical are they? But where and how are they experienced? Are > they > > > just thoughts, or is there a physical component? Seems obvious > to me, > > > that these experiences are a combination of the mind and body. > But > > > then, can you even experience touch or hearing without the > mental, > > > the mind, and the brain? And then, is the brain and the mind the > same > > > thing? Not exactly, but there is a realtionship isn't there. No > > > brain, no mind, no brain, no touch, smell or hearing. So brain > must > > > be central to all experience whether physical or emotional. Got > to > > > go. Students are comin in for period 4. To be continued. > > > > > > > > Larry Epston > > > > > > Is this an exercise in reasoning? > > > > > > I read a couple of sentences and have to bail out, > > > as I know already I don't want to go there. > > > > > > If a bunch of reasoning is involved > > > I know already > > > it is not going to add up. > > > > > > Bill > > > > > > > > > So much for It > > How about what you make of it? > > > > ~*~ > > > > I said what I had to say... > nothing more > > and why ask? > > speak your words > and leave me to speak mine > as I will... > do you need my permission? ~*~ Many of you talk about mind as if it existed in a vacuum and seem oblivious that mind is an expression of a brain. If you find no sense or meaning in what I write, so be it. I am just another among billions of others whose words and ideas you would object to. What I write seems true to me. Just pass bye my posts if they are so objectionable, superificial or meaningless. I do the same. Many of you seems to encourage Bob Nixon, where I found his comments very disagreeable and objectionalbe right from the start. Larry Epston ______________________ Check out AOL.com today. Breaking news, video search, pictures, email and IM. All on demand. Always Free. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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