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Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " <pliantheart@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > >

> > > > It is thought that invents the idea that 'heart' is somehow better

> > > > then what it calls 'mind'.

> > > >

> > > > In actuality... these terms are meaningless and set up one more

> > > > delusional quest in which one is sought....the other is avoided.

> > > >

> > > > This is just more delusional floundering within the dream of

> duality.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > toombaru

> > > > I am not trying to understand anymore.

> > > > I just see that there is a threshold that you are ferociously

> garding,

> > > > and that is fine, no point in exploring something that is of

> > > absolute, it will be simply unwelcome to you,. it is ok, it is just

> > > the way it is.

> > > >

> > > > Patricia

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > We are on shaky ground when we believe that we understand what

> > > motivates another human.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > toombaru

> >

> > alright toombaru!

> > we agree!!!

> >

> > and we are on no ground at all

> > when we conclude that we understand

> > what motivates another human

> >

> > Bill

>

> These kinds of absolutistic statements don't make much sense to me.

>

> If someone breaks into a drug store and steals pain-killing drugs,

> doesn't it make a difference whether his motivation was that he is too

> poor to afford drugs and his wife is dealing with cancer, vs. that he

> is a drug addict who wanted a fix? Wouldn't you deal differently with

> the person depending on what you assessed his motivation to be?

>

> That's just one example, I'm sure there hundreds.

>

> Assessing motives is just part of day to day human life.

>

> In fact, people on this list seemed to be doing it just a little while

> ago, when compaining about certain posters.

>

> We don't claim certitude, but we know that making some kinds of

> judgments in some situations is just part of how things work.

>

> There is a distinction between the relative and the absolute. You may

> say there are no separable entities absolutely, but if you can't deal

> with differences, including differences in motivation, then you can't

> deal fully with life. Life includes the day to day and the totality,

> the differences and the undifferentiated.

>

> -- Dan

 

Yes... I agree with what you say

and did not really intend my remark in such

an absolute sense.

 

The context I meant pertained to a list such

as this where, based on a message, one comes to

all sorts of conclusions about the poster. Perhaps

occasionally one can infer something about the

poster, but for the most part I see it as delusional

to do so, and really does not serve anyway.

 

Bill

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