Guest guest Posted June 9, 2006 Report Share Posted June 9, 2006 RELATIONSHIPS AS SPIRITUAL PRACTICE To relinquish judgment does not mean that you do not recognize dysfunction and unconsciousness when you see it. It means " being the knowing " rather than " being the reaction " and the judge. You will then either be totally free of reaction or you may react and still be the knowing, the space in which the reaction is watched and allowed to be. Instead of fighting the darkness, you bring in the light. Instead of reacting to delusion, you see the delusion yet at the same time look through it. Eckhart Tolle Practicing The Power of Now This was valuable, helpful to me. And it seems to me this is essential to compassion. If I am feeling annoyed with someone, for example, I could judge myself as not being nondual cool... Those who are totally at one with All don't get annoyed with anyone, right? But as per the quote, I can behold the entire scenario - including my annoyance - as within a larger sphere of awareness. In effect I am then witnessing the entire thing... the " other " , the context, my reaction... all of it... It seems that compassion naturally emerges when all is seen in such a comprehensive way. I note how with that approach the subjectivity of my reaction is not being denied, and at the same time an objectivity of seeing from the larger perspective is being held simultaneously. Somehow the ability to hold *two things at once* seems key here. Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 9, 2006 Report Share Posted June 9, 2006 Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " <pliantheart wrote: > > RELATIONSHIPS AS SPIRITUAL PRACTICE > > To relinquish judgment does not mean that you do > not recognize dysfunction and unconsciousness > when you see it. It means " being the knowing " > rather than " being the reaction " and the judge. > You will then either be totally free of reaction > or you may react and still be the knowing, the > space in which the reaction is watched and > allowed to be. Instead of fighting the darkness, > you bring in the light. Instead of reacting to > delusion, you see the delusion yet at the same > time look through it. > > Eckhart Tolle > Practicing The Power of Now > > > This was valuable, helpful to me. > And it seems to me this is essential > to compassion. > > If I am feeling annoyed with someone, > for example, I could judge myself as > not being nondual cool... > > Those who are totally at one with All > don't get annoyed with anyone, right? > > But as per the quote, I can behold > the entire scenario - including my > annoyance - as within a larger sphere of > awareness. In effect I am then witnessing > the entire thing... the " other " , the > context, my reaction... all of it... > > It seems that compassion naturally > emerges when all is seen in such a > comprehensive way. > > I note how with that approach the > subjectivity of my reaction is not being > denied, and at the same time an objectivity > of seeing from the larger perspective is > being held simultaneously. > > Somehow the ability to hold *two things > at once* seems key here. > > Bill > So how does this relate on this board of supposed non-duality to the interactions of Robert & Larry????? Did we see how it relates? And to whom? Were we caught up? Taking sides? Annoyed? Did we 'moderate' them on the list and in our hearts? Sorry folks, there is NO-THING that does not relate to another thing unless it is the Seeing itself. Amd that IS e=mc squared. We are always balancing the poles, the ever-present existence of opposites in our minds first and foremost; however, that deconstruction will always be predicated on our personal history, including any insights we have gleaned and gained. Now here's the amazing thing: When we fall into our hearts, we no longer see through a glass darkly and we see clearly where the 'other' as " we " is 'stuck'. Friends help one another see their blind spots. And we can't be a friend or help another to see, once we throw him/her out of our hearts, just for being themselves, someone 'they " have not quite seen in their entirety, and from a different perspective.... if you know what I mean. Yours In Love, Ana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 9, 2006 Report Share Posted June 9, 2006 Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " <pliantheart wrote: > > RELATIONSHIPS AS SPIRITUAL PRACTICE > > To relinquish judgment does not mean that you do > not recognize dysfunction and unconsciousness > when you see it. It means " being the knowing " > rather than " being the reaction " and the judge. > You will then either be totally free of reaction > or you may react and still be the knowing, the > space in which the reaction is watched and > allowed to be. Instead of fighting the darkness, > you bring in the light. Instead of reacting to > delusion, you see the delusion yet at the same > time look through it. > > Eckhart Tolle > Practicing The Power of Now > > > This was valuable, helpful to me. > And it seems to me this is essential > to compassion. > > If I am feeling annoyed with someone, > for example, I could judge myself as > not being nondual cool... > > Those who are totally at one with All > don't get annoyed with anyone, right? > > But as per the quote, I can behold > the entire scenario - including my > annoyance - as within a larger sphere of > awareness. In effect I am then witnessing > the entire thing... the " other " , the > context, my reaction... all of it... > > It seems that compassion naturally > emerges when all is seen in such a > comprehensive way. > > I note how with that approach the > subjectivity of my reaction is not being > denied, and at the same time an objectivity > of seeing from the larger perspective is > being held simultaneously. > > Somehow the ability to hold *two things > at once* seems key here. > > Bill " I can behold the entire scenario - including my annoyance - as within a larger sphere of awareness. " What more can I say? ~*~ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 9, 2006 Report Share Posted June 9, 2006 Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " <pliantheart wrote: > > RELATIONSHIPS AS SPIRITUAL PRACTICE > > To relinquish judgment does not mean that you do > not recognize dysfunction and unconsciousness > when you see it. It means " being the knowing " > rather than " being the reaction " and the judge. > You will then either be totally free of reaction > or you may react and still be the knowing, the > space in which the reaction is watched and > allowed to be. Instead of fighting the darkness, > you bring in the light. Instead of reacting to > delusion, you see the delusion yet at the same > time look through it. > > Eckhart Tolle > Practicing The Power of Now > > > This was valuable, helpful to me. > And it seems to me this is essential > to compassion. > > If I am feeling annoyed with someone, > for example, I could judge myself as > not being nondual cool... > > Those who are totally at one with All > don't get annoyed with anyone, right? > > But as per the quote, I can behold > the entire scenario - including my > annoyance - as within a larger sphere of > awareness. In effect I am then witnessing > the entire thing... the " other " , the > context, my reaction... all of it... > > It seems that compassion naturally > emerges when all is seen in such a > comprehensive way. > > I note how with that approach the > subjectivity of my reaction is not being > denied, and at the same time an objectivity > of seeing from the larger perspective is > being held simultaneously. > > Somehow the ability to hold *two things > at once* seems key here. > > Bill Yes, the ability to be schizofrenic ;-) Len Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 9, 2006 Report Share Posted June 9, 2006 Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <anabebe57 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " <pliantheart@> > wrote: > > > > RELATIONSHIPS AS SPIRITUAL PRACTICE > > > > To relinquish judgment does not mean that you do > > not recognize dysfunction and unconsciousness > > when you see it. It means " being the knowing " > > rather than " being the reaction " and the judge. > > You will then either be totally free of reaction > > or you may react and still be the knowing, the > > space in which the reaction is watched and > > allowed to be. Instead of fighting the darkness, > > you bring in the light. Instead of reacting to > > delusion, you see the delusion yet at the same > > time look through it. > > > > Eckhart Tolle > > Practicing The Power of Now > > > > > > This was valuable, helpful to me. > > And it seems to me this is essential > > to compassion. > > > > If I am feeling annoyed with someone, > > for example, I could judge myself as > > not being nondual cool... > > > > Those who are totally at one with All > > don't get annoyed with anyone, right? > > > > But as per the quote, I can behold > > the entire scenario - including my > > annoyance - as within a larger sphere of > > awareness. In effect I am then witnessing > > the entire thing... the " other " , the > > context, my reaction... all of it... > > > > It seems that compassion naturally > > emerges when all is seen in such a > > comprehensive way. > > > > I note how with that approach the > > subjectivity of my reaction is not being > > denied, and at the same time an objectivity > > of seeing from the larger perspective is > > being held simultaneously. > > > > Somehow the ability to hold *two things > > at once* seems key here. > > > > Bill > > > > > So how does this relate on this board of supposed non-duality > to the interactions of Robert & Larry????? > > Did we see how it relates? And to whom? Were we caught up? > Taking sides? Annoyed? Did we 'moderate' them on the list and in > our hearts? > > Sorry folks, there is NO-THING that does not relate to another thing > unless it is the Seeing itself. Amd that IS e=mc squared. > > We are always balancing the poles, the ever-present existence of > opposites in our minds first and foremost; however, that > deconstruction will always be predicated on our personal history, > including any insights we have gleaned and gained. > > Now here's the amazing thing: When we fall into our hearts, we no > longer see through a glass darkly and we see clearly where > the 'other' as " we " is 'stuck'. Friends help one another see their > blind spots. > > And we can't be a friend or help another to see, once we throw > him/her out of our hearts, just for being themselves, someone 'they " > have not quite seen in their entirety, and from a different > perspective.... if you know what I mean. > > > Yours In Love, > Ana > " If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the problem. " " The private is the public. " " Every act is political. " " You're either with US, or you're with Al-Quada. " " You're either with me, or against me. " You're either me, or you're my baby ~*~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 9, 2006 Report Share Posted June 9, 2006 Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " <pliantheart wrote: > > RELATIONSHIPS AS SPIRITUAL PRACTICE > > To relinquish judgment does not mean that you do > not recognize dysfunction and unconsciousness > when you see it. It means " being the knowing " > rather than " being the reaction " and the judge. > You will then either be totally free of reaction > or you may react and still be the knowing, the > space in which the reaction is watched and > allowed to be. Instead of fighting the darkness, > you bring in the light. Instead of reacting to > delusion, you see the delusion yet at the same > time look through it. > > Eckhart Tolle > Practicing The Power of Now > > > This was valuable, helpful to me. > And it seems to me this is essential > to compassion. > > If I am feeling annoyed with someone, > for example, I could judge myself as > not being nondual cool... > > Those who are totally at one with All > don't get annoyed with anyone, right? > > But as per the quote, I can behold > the entire scenario - including my > annoyance - as within a larger sphere of > awareness. In effect I am then witnessing > the entire thing... the " other " , the > context, my reaction... all of it... > > It seems that compassion naturally > emerges when all is seen in such a > comprehensive way. > > I note how with that approach the > subjectivity of my reaction is not being > denied, and at the same time an objectivity > of seeing from the larger perspective is > being held simultaneously. > > Somehow the ability to hold *two things > at once* seems key here. > > Bill > ...........or you could simply realize that all that work on the character named 'Bill " is only reactive programming spinning itself out within the vast Unknowable that is your true abode. toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 9, 2006 Report Share Posted June 9, 2006 Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <anabebe57 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " <pliantheart@> > wrote: > > > > RELATIONSHIPS AS SPIRITUAL PRACTICE > > > > To relinquish judgment does not mean that you do > > not recognize dysfunction and unconsciousness > > when you see it. It means " being the knowing " > > rather than " being the reaction " and the judge. > > You will then either be totally free of reaction > > or you may react and still be the knowing, the > > space in which the reaction is watched and > > allowed to be. Instead of fighting the darkness, > > you bring in the light. Instead of reacting to > > delusion, you see the delusion yet at the same > > time look through it. > > > > Eckhart Tolle > > Practicing The Power of Now > > > > > > This was valuable, helpful to me. > > And it seems to me this is essential > > to compassion. > > > > If I am feeling annoyed with someone, > > for example, I could judge myself as > > not being nondual cool... > > > > Those who are totally at one with All > > don't get annoyed with anyone, right? > > > > But as per the quote, I can behold > > the entire scenario - including my > > annoyance - as within a larger sphere of > > awareness. In effect I am then witnessing > > the entire thing... the " other " , the > > context, my reaction... all of it... > > > > It seems that compassion naturally > > emerges when all is seen in such a > > comprehensive way. > > > > I note how with that approach the > > subjectivity of my reaction is not being > > denied, and at the same time an objectivity > > of seeing from the larger perspective is > > being held simultaneously. > > > > Somehow the ability to hold *two things > > at once* seems key here. > > > > Bill > > > > > So how does this relate on this board of supposed non-duality > to the interactions of Robert & Larry????? > > Did we see how it relates? And to whom? Were we caught up? > Taking sides? Annoyed? Did we 'moderate' them on the list and in > our hearts? > > Sorry folks, there is NO-THING that does not relate to another thing > unless it is the Seeing itself. Amd that IS e=mc squared. > > We are always balancing the poles, the ever-present existence of > opposites in our minds first and foremost; however, that > deconstruction will always be predicated on our personal history, > including any insights we have gleaned and gained. > > Now here's the amazing thing: When we fall into our hearts, we no > longer see through a glass darkly and we see clearly where > the 'other' as " we " is 'stuck'. Friends help one another see their > blind spots. > > And we can't be a friend or help another to see, once we throw > him/her out of our hearts, just for being themselves, someone 'they " > have not quite seen in their entirety, and from a different > perspective.... if you know what I mean. > > > Yours In Love, > Ana > There are no individual dancers..........there is only One dancing. toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 9, 2006 Report Share Posted June 9, 2006 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " <pliantheart@> > wrote: > > > > RELATIONSHIPS AS SPIRITUAL PRACTICE > > > > To relinquish judgment does not mean that you do > > not recognize dysfunction and unconsciousness > > when you see it. It means " being the knowing " > > rather than " being the reaction " and the judge. > > You will then either be totally free of reaction > > or you may react and still be the knowing, the > > space in which the reaction is watched and > > allowed to be. Instead of fighting the darkness, > > you bring in the light. Instead of reacting to > > delusion, you see the delusion yet at the same > > time look through it. > > > > Eckhart Tolle > > Practicing The Power of Now > > > > > > This was valuable, helpful to me. > > And it seems to me this is essential > > to compassion. > > > > If I am feeling annoyed with someone, > > for example, I could judge myself as > > not being nondual cool... > > > > Those who are totally at one with All > > don't get annoyed with anyone, right? > > > > But as per the quote, I can behold > > the entire scenario - including my > > annoyance - as within a larger sphere of > > awareness. In effect I am then witnessing > > the entire thing... the " other " , the > > context, my reaction... all of it... > > > > It seems that compassion naturally > > emerges when all is seen in such a > > comprehensive way. > > > > I note how with that approach the > > subjectivity of my reaction is not being > > denied, and at the same time an objectivity > > of seeing from the larger perspective is > > being held simultaneously. > > > > Somehow the ability to hold *two things > > at once* seems key here. > > > > Bill > > > > > > ..........or you could simply realize that all that work on the > character named 'Bill " is only reactive programming spinning itself > out within the vast Unknowable that is your true abode. > > > > toombaru there is no work no one working and no " Unknowable " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 9, 2006 Report Share Posted June 9, 2006 Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " <pliantheart wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " <pliantheart@> > > wrote: > > > > > > RELATIONSHIPS AS SPIRITUAL PRACTICE > > > > > > To relinquish judgment does not mean that you do > > > not recognize dysfunction and unconsciousness > > > when you see it. It means " being the knowing " > > > rather than " being the reaction " and the judge. > > > You will then either be totally free of reaction > > > or you may react and still be the knowing, the > > > space in which the reaction is watched and > > > allowed to be. Instead of fighting the darkness, > > > you bring in the light. Instead of reacting to > > > delusion, you see the delusion yet at the same > > > time look through it. > > > > > > Eckhart Tolle > > > Practicing The Power of Now > > > > > > > > > This was valuable, helpful to me. > > > And it seems to me this is essential > > > to compassion. > > > > > > If I am feeling annoyed with someone, > > > for example, I could judge myself as > > > not being nondual cool... > > > > > > Those who are totally at one with All > > > don't get annoyed with anyone, right? > > > > > > But as per the quote, I can behold > > > the entire scenario - including my > > > annoyance - as within a larger sphere of > > > awareness. In effect I am then witnessing > > > the entire thing... the " other " , the > > > context, my reaction... all of it... > > > > > > It seems that compassion naturally > > > emerges when all is seen in such a > > > comprehensive way. > > > > > > I note how with that approach the > > > subjectivity of my reaction is not being > > > denied, and at the same time an objectivity > > > of seeing from the larger perspective is > > > being held simultaneously. > > > > > > Somehow the ability to hold *two things > > > at once* seems key here. > > > > > > Bill > > > > > > > > > > > ..........or you could simply realize that all that work on the > > character named 'Bill " is only reactive programming spinning itself > > out within the vast Unknowable that is your true abode. > > > > > > > > toombaru > > there is no work > no one working > and no " Unknowable " > Hey, Bill, You've just outradicalled ol' T, for the moment. ~*~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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