Guest guest Posted June 12, 2006 Report Share Posted June 12, 2006 every day the temperature is rising and going down... but in evrery single moment it is not rising or going down... so if we erase time...there is no separation left... where there appeared to be separation there is not then this now is the only now there is... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 12, 2006 Report Share Posted June 12, 2006 Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa wrote: > > every day the temperature is rising and going down... > but in evrery single moment it is not rising or going down... > so if we erase time...there is no separation left... > where there appeared to be separation there is not > then this now is the only now there is... > there is only one...but thought is splitting this one up into many parts...then thought sees the many as a fact... there is only one...and therefor there is nothing to learn... learnig is all about the parts and the parts are only mindstuff ....iietsa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 12, 2006 Report Share Posted June 12, 2006 In a message dated 6/11/2006 11:56:08 PM Pacific Daylight Time, iietsa writes: > > every day the temperature is rising and going down... > but in evrery single moment it is not rising or going down... > so if we erase time...there is no separation left... > where there appeared to be separation there is not > then this now is the only now there is... > > > L.E: The now and the not now seem intrinsic to humans. It is speech and > writing that are the basis for the not now experience that embrace most people. > For instance holy books, spiritual writing almost all serve to take humans > out of now experience. Can you imagine someone going around saying " don't read > the bible or the koran because it will take you out of the here and now > present? " Perhaps most humans don't want to live in teh here and now of reality. > They prefer the culture of imagination. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 12, 2006 Report Share Posted June 12, 2006 Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > every day the temperature is rising and going down... > > but in evrery single moment it is not rising or going down... > > so if we erase time...there is no separation left... > > where there appeared to be separation there is not > > then this now is the only now there is... > > > > > there is only one...but thought is splitting this one up into many > parts...then thought sees the many as a fact... > > there is only one...and therefor there is nothing to learn... > learnig is all about the parts and the parts are only mindstuff > ...iietsa > yes be peace, and there is only peace be despair, and there is only despair be neither, and there is neither be timeless, and there is only timelessness ~*~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 12, 2006 Report Share Posted June 12, 2006 Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " <skywords wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > every day the temperature is rising and going down... > > > but in evrery single moment it is not rising or going down... > > > so if we erase time...there is no separation left... > > > where there appeared to be separation there is not > > > then this now is the only now there is... > > > > > > > > > there is only one...but thought is splitting this one up into many > > parts...then thought sees the many as a fact... > > > > there is only one...and therefor there is nothing to learn... > > learnig is all about the parts and the parts are only mindstuff > > ...iietsa > > > yes > > be peace, and there is only peace > be despair, and there is only despair > be neither, and there is neither > be timeless, and there is only timelessness > > ~*~ Time is timelessly time-ing. There is nothing to erase. This is who you are right now. This is what is, right now. Nothing has ever existed outside you, nor you outside anything. It doesn't matter whether or not you know this, you always are this, and therefore your being and knowing are one. If you realize that it doesn't matter whether or not you know, you now know. There is nothing to know, nor to erase. -- Dan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 12, 2006 Report Share Posted June 12, 2006 Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " <skywords@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > every day the temperature is rising and going down... > > > > but in evrery single moment it is not rising or going down... > > > > so if we erase time...there is no separation left... > > > > where there appeared to be separation there is not > > > > then this now is the only now there is... > > > > > > > > > > > > > there is only one...but thought is splitting this one up into many > > > parts...then thought sees the many as a fact... > > > > > > there is only one...and therefor there is nothing to learn... > > > learnig is all about the parts and the parts are only mindstuff > > > ...iietsa > > > > > yes > > > > be peace, and there is only peace > > be despair, and there is only despair > > be neither, and there is neither > > be timeless, and there is only timelessness > > > > ~*~ > > Time is timelessly time-ing. > > There is nothing to erase. > > This is who you are right now. > > This is what is, right now. > > Nothing has ever existed outside you, nor you outside anything. > > It doesn't matter whether or not you know this, you always are this, > and therefore your being and knowing are one. > > If you realize that it doesn't matter whether or not you know, you now > know. > > There is nothing to know, nor to erase. > > -- Dan > yes can you feel the presence and absence of weight? ~*~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 12, 2006 Report Share Posted June 12, 2006 Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " <skywords@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > every day the temperature is rising and going down... > > > > but in evrery single moment it is not rising or going down... > > > > so if we erase time...there is no separation left... > > > > where there appeared to be separation there is not > > > > then this now is the only now there is... > > > > > > > > > > > > > there is only one...but thought is splitting this one up into many > > > parts...then thought sees the many as a fact... > > > > > > there is only one...and therefor there is nothing to learn... > > > learnig is all about the parts and the parts are only mindstuff > > > ...iietsa > > > > > yes > > > > be peace, and there is only peace > > be despair, and there is only despair > > be neither, and there is neither > > be timeless, and there is only timelessness > > > > ~*~ > > Time is timelessly time-ing. > > There is nothing to erase. > > This is who you are right now. > > This is what is, right now. > > Nothing has ever existed outside you, nor you outside anything. > > It doesn't matter whether or not you know this, you always are this, > and therefore your being and knowing are one. > > If you realize that it doesn't matter whether or not you know, you now > know. > > There is nothing to know, nor to erase. > > -- Dan > of course there is nothing to erase... words are being used here to say so in different ways they have their own limitation... there is really nothing to write either of course... all those words are mere birds in the silent sky...iietsa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2006 Report Share Posted June 13, 2006 Nisargadatta , epston wrote: > > In a message dated 6/11/2006 11:56:08 PM Pacific Daylight Time, > iietsa writes: > > > > > every day the temperature is rising and going down... > > but in evrery single moment it is not rising or going down... > > so if we erase time...there is no separation left... > > where there appeared to be separation there is not > > then this now is the only now there is... > > > > > > L.E: The now and the not now seem intrinsic to humans. It is speech and > > writing that are the basis for the not now experience that embrace most people. > > For instance holy books, spiritual writing almost all serve to take humans > > out of now experience. Can you imagine someone going around saying " don't read > > the bible or the koran because it will take you out of the here and now > > present? " Perhaps most humans don't want to live in teh here and now of reality. > > They prefer the culture of imagination. > > > Do we prefer it, or do we merely find that it has its place? My experience is that in grace and compassion, all things find their place. ~*~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2006 Report Share Posted June 13, 2006 Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " <skywords wrote: > > Nisargadatta , epston@ wrote: > > > > In a message dated 6/11/2006 11:56:08 PM Pacific Daylight Time, > > iietsa@ writes: > > > > > > > > every day the temperature is rising and going down... > > > but in evrery single moment it is not rising or going down... > > > so if we erase time...there is no separation left... > > > where there appeared to be separation there is not > > > then this now is the only now there is... > > > > > > > > > L.E: The now and the not now seem intrinsic to humans. It is > speech and > > > writing that are the basis for the not now experience that embrace > most people. > > > For instance holy books, spiritual writing almost all serve to > take humans > > > out of now experience. Can you imagine someone going around saying > " don't read > > > the bible or the koran because it will take you out of the here > and now > > > present? " Perhaps most humans don't want to live in teh here and > now of reality. > > > They prefer the culture of imagination. > > > > > > Do we prefer it, > or do we merely find > that it has its place? > > My experience > is that in grace > and compassion, > all things find their place. > > ~*~ > yes...all is ok and in this space where things find their place...there is no such thing as time...iietsa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 14, 2006 Report Share Posted June 14, 2006 Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " <skywords@> > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , epston@ wrote: > > > > > > In a message dated 6/11/2006 11:56:08 PM Pacific Daylight Time, > > > iietsa@ writes: > > > > > > > > > > > every day the temperature is rising and going down... > > > > but in evrery single moment it is not rising or going down... > > > > so if we erase time...there is no separation left... > > > > where there appeared to be separation there is not > > > > then this now is the only now there is... > > > > > > > > > > > > L.E: The now and the not now seem intrinsic to humans. It is > > speech and > > > > writing that are the basis for the not now experience that > embrace > > most people. > > > > For instance holy books, spiritual writing almost all serve to > > take humans > > > > out of now experience. Can you imagine someone going around > saying > > " don't read > > > > the bible or the koran because it will take you out of the here > > and now > > > > present? " Perhaps most humans don't want to live in teh here > and > > now of reality. > > > > They prefer the culture of imagination. > > > > > > > > > Do we prefer it, > > or do we merely find > > that it has its place? > > > > My experience > > is that in grace > > and compassion, > > all things find their place. > > > > ~*~ > > > yes...all is ok > and in this space where things find their place...there is no such > thing as time...iietsa > Yes, it's about time somebody invoked the name of one of my bestest friends, and under the counter parts, Eternity! ~*~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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