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> Mind is nothing other then focus.

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> An unfocused mind is a still mind.

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> A still mind is no mind.

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> (These are ideas for discussion...not statements of fact..:-)

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> toombaru

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I very much like what you have said there!

 

Bill

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> and I feel heart full to hear you speak like that.

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> thank you toombaru

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> Bill

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Thank you Bill.

 

I love our exchanges.

 

They take me ever deeper into this most

mysterious........What-Ever-The Heck-It-Is.

 

Laughing Now......Warm All Over

 

I might take that as my new name.

 

 

 

 

toombaru

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Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote:

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> Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " <pliantheart@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " <pliantheart@>

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@>

> > > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Nisargadatta , " dannyc_1eyeluv "

> > > > > <dannyc_1eyeluv@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > " Whenever love is withheld and suffering allowed to

spread, war

> > > > > > becomes inevitable. Our indifference to our neighbor's sorrow

> > > brings

> > > > > > suffering to our door. "

> > > > > >

> > > > > > nisargadatta

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> > > > >

> > > > > Love that can be withheld........is not love.

> > > > >

> > > > > There is no love in duality.

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> > > > >

> > > > > toombaru

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> > > >

> > > > openness and vulnerability not ventured up

> > > > is love withheld.

> > > >

> > > > Bill

> > > >

> > >

> > > this " opnness and vulnerability " is it focusing on the object...

> > > or is it not focusing at all on anything ?

> > > ...iietsa

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> > not focusing at all

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> > focusing is effort and, in my view, the

> > root of the illusory sense of self.

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> > vulnerability is relinquishing of control,

> > and the control relinquished is precisely

> > the movement of focused attention.

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> > Bill

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> The attempt to relinquish control is another form of control.

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> Relinquishing happens downstream from understanding.

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> toombaru

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It can work both ways, in my experience. I've first relinquished and

then understood. Cutting things that clearly can get awfully

polarized, and adversarial. But then, there are those who prefer that

combative rush. I'm on the fense emotionally, but on the side of the

nonadversarial, ideally.

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