Guest guest Posted June 18, 2006 Report Share Posted June 18, 2006 In a message dated 6/18/2006 4:52:15 PM Pacific Daylight Time, pliantheart writes: > I don't need to change you... > and do you need to change me? > > is there any " fixing " that needs to be done? > > Bill > L.E: My car has a flat. Fix that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 19, 2006 Report Share Posted June 19, 2006 Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " <pliantheart@> > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " > <pliantheart@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " jasondedonno " > > > <jasondedonno@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > enough to be I am.....this so-called group is only > thought... > > > > > > > dont give this group-thought a higher value.... > > > > > > > couse then you go away from I am...so to speak > > > > > > > anything you give power takes you away from I am > > > > > > > ....iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " this so-called group is only thought... " > > > > > > then you are not paying attention! > > > > > > > > > > > > there is thought, yes, but to say *only* thought? > > > > > > Oh my! > > > > > > > > > > > > Bill > > > > > > > > > > I don't follow - can you explain that please, Bill? > > > > > > > > > > > > > One pitfall with nondualism is that for some it can become > > > > a complete head trip. But certainly not for all, and certainly > > > > not for all on this list. Ana, for example, dooesn't go there. > > > > So to me what iiesta said is not truly representative of this > > > > list. Yes, there are definitely some head trips going on here, > > > > but not only that by any means. > > > > > > > > Bill > > > > > > > this might be a simple misunderstanding.... > > > when it is said that you should not emphasize any thoughts > > > whatsoever...give no power to words....dont hold on to the mind- > > > buisness.....I surely dont mean to say......join the " head trip " > > > ...........where did you slip into the head-trip-thought Bill ? > > > ....iietsa > > > > > > > a. if *it is said* you should not <anything>, THAT is a head trip > > in my view. > > > > b. have no idea where you get that I said you said " join the head > trip " ... > > > > c. your last line is an absurd cutism in my view. Another one of > > those rhetorical pot-shots... > > > > Bill > > > you just hang on to " your understanding " as long as you do.... > ....iietsa > your freely offered remedy for what I have not expressed a need for I shall allow to float freely in the space it floats in... and there it shall do very well I am sure. I don't need to change you... and do you need to change me? is there any " fixing " that needs to be done? Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 19, 2006 Report Share Posted June 19, 2006 Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " <pliantheart wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " <pliantheart@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " > > <pliantheart@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " jasondedonno " > > > > <jasondedonno@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > enough to be I am.....this so-called group is only > > thought... > > > > > > > > dont give this group-thought a higher value.... > > > > > > > > couse then you go away from I am...so to speak > > > > > > > > anything you give power takes you away from I am > > > > > > > > ....iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " this so-called group is only thought... " > > > > > > > then you are not paying attention! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > there is thought, yes, but to say *only* thought? > > > > > > > Oh my! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bill > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't follow - can you explain that please, Bill? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One pitfall with nondualism is that for some it can become > > > > > a complete head trip. But certainly not for all, and certainly > > > > > not for all on this list. Ana, for example, dooesn't go there. > > > > > So to me what iiesta said is not truly representative of this > > > > > list. Yes, there are definitely some head trips going on here, > > > > > but not only that by any means. > > > > > > > > > > Bill > > > > > > > > > this might be a simple misunderstanding.... > > > > when it is said that you should not emphasize any thoughts > > > > whatsoever...give no power to words....dont hold on to the mind- > > > > buisness.....I surely dont mean to say......join the " head trip " > > > > ...........where did you slip into the head-trip-thought Bill ? > > > > ....iietsa > > > > > > > > > > a. if *it is said* you should not <anything>, THAT is a head trip > > > in my view. > > > > > > b. have no idea where you get that I said you said " join the head > > trip " ... > > > > > > c. your last line is an absurd cutism in my view. Another one of > > > those rhetorical pot-shots... > > > > > > Bill > > > > > you just hang on to " your understanding " as long as you do.... > > ....iietsa > > > > your freely offered remedy for what I have not > expressed a need for I shall allow to float > freely in the space it floats in... and there > it shall do very well I am sure. > > I don't need to change you... > and do you need to change me? > > is there any " fixing " that needs to be done? > > Bill > there is nothing wrong...ok......iietsa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 19, 2006 Report Share Posted June 19, 2006 Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " <pliantheart wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " <pliantheart@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " jasondedonno " > > <jasondedonno@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > enough to be I am.....this so-called group is only thought... > > > > > > dont give this group-thought a higher value.... > > > > > > couse then you go away from I am...so to speak > > > > > > anything you give power takes you away from I am > > > > > > ....iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " this so-called group is only thought... " > > > > > then you are not paying attention! > > > > > > > > > > there is thought, yes, but to say *only* thought? > > > > > Oh my! > > > > > > > > > > Bill > > > > > > > > I don't follow - can you explain that please, Bill? > > > > > > > > > > One pitfall with nondualism is that for some it can become > > > a complete head trip. But certainly not for all, and certainly > > > not for all on this list. Ana, for example, dooesn't go there. > > > So to me what iiesta said is not truly representative of this > > > list. Yes, there are definitely some head trips going on here, > > > but not only that by any means. > > > > > > Bill > > > > > this might be a simple misunderstanding.... > > when it is said that you should not emphasize any thoughts > > whatsoever...give no power to words....dont hold on to the mind- > > buisness.....I surely dont mean to say......join the " head trip " > > ...........where did you slip into the head-trip-thought Bill ? > > ....iietsa > > > > a. if *it is said* you should not <anything>, THAT is a head trip > in my view. > > b. have no idea where you get that I said you said " join the head trip " ... > > c. your last line is an absurd cutism in my view. Another one of > those rhetorical pot-shots... > > Bill > if it is a head trip in your view.... then it is a head trip in your view.... nothing is wrong with the head trip in your view.... it is absolutely welcomed so is any other view of yours .....iietsa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 19, 2006 Report Share Posted June 19, 2006 Nisargadatta , epston wrote: > > In a message dated 6/18/2006 4:52:15 PM Pacific Daylight Time, > pliantheart writes: > > > I don't need to change you... > > and do you need to change me? > > > > is there any " fixing " that needs to be done? > > > > Bill > > > L.E: My car has a flat. Fix that. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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