Guest guest Posted June 20, 2006 Report Share Posted June 20, 2006 God is truth. This means that God is infinite power. The creation is just His imagination and is almost not true. The imagining person is said to truly exist. The world, which is just His imagination and which is completely not nothing. The world is made of an iota of energy of God. God is like the infinite ocean of energy. Compared to God the world is almost nothing. Thus this entire creation is under the full control of God. Just like the person doing some imagination creates an imaginary world in him, God created this imaginary world in Him. The imagining person can fully control the world. He can transform any item into any other item. He can raise a dead body in His imaginary world. All the miracles of human incarnations can be explained only by this concept. God who is present in the human incarnation does all these miracles only to establish this concept. If the world is equally true, then the world is equally powerful to God. In such case God cannot do whatever He likes. Since the world is least powerful and God is most powerful, God controls the entire world like a very strong person controlling very weak person. Thus the word truth indicates the omnipotent nature of God. When we say that this world is not true, it indicates the negligible power of the world. Suppose a small ant is on your shirt, will you say that yourself and the ant are present in the house? The ant is negligible and is treated as nothing. Therefore, a person who knows this concept surrenders to God and accepts Him as the saviour. In his eyes the entire world looks like an ant before God. You are a tiny particle in this ant-world. You can understand your position by putting a relative scale. Assume that this ant is Infinite Ocean of energy. You are an iota of that ocean. This means your power is negligible before the power of this entire nature. The world is like the ocean and you are like a drop in it. God is like the ocean and the world a drop in God. You must understand this simile not in terms of volume but in terms of the intensity of the power. When we utter the word God, we immediately imagine Him as a very large figure with unlimited boundaries. The space is largest but as no power as it is treated has nothing. The atom bomb is very small but it has enormous power. Therefore, our idea about God should not be in terms of the three- dimensional space. When a person imagines a large city, the city is very huge but the person is very small. But that small person has created, maintains and finally dissolves this huge city. He can do anything in this huge city. Infact He is standing outside this huge city. When He wants to enter into this huge imaginary city, He will imagine a small form and He identifies Himself with that form. That small form represents the outside person. This imagined form, which is identified by the outside person, is treated as the outside person directly. This imagined small form is the human incarnation. The outside person is God. The imaginary huge city is this world. Thus God identifies Himself with the human incarnation. From this angle the human incarnation and the God are one and the same. There is another angle in which the human incarnation is not the original God but a part and parcel of God. In this angle God and the human incarnation are treated as father and son. You can experience the Father only through this Son. In the third angle the human incarnation is just sent by God into this world as a messenger with some power. Jesus talked this truth in all the three angles. Jesus can save any human being who has any one of these three angles. Acceptance of Jesus as your saviour is the essential step in the spiritual effort. Here Jesus means the human incarnation in general. Only God is the saviour. But you cannot approach God directly. Only through the human incarnation you can approach God. This means you should accept the human incarnation as that very God. In such case only the human incarnation becomes your saviour. God is like free electrons flowing in the atmosphere. These Electrons are the electricity. Then can you heat water by keeping the vessel containing water in the atmosphere? When these Electrons enter a medium like the metallic wire, you can heat water. If the medium is human form it is most convenient for you to clear your doubts, to love and to serve Him. Therefore, acceptance of Jesus as your Saviour means that you should accept the human incarnation as your saviour. It is told that Jesus will come again. This means that the human incarnation is coming in every human generation. at the lotus feet of shri datta swami surya http://www.universal-spirituality.org Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2006 Report Share Posted June 21, 2006 Nisargadatta , " surya " <dattapr2000 wrote: > > God is truth. This means that God is infinite power. The creation is > just His imagination and is almost not true. The imagining person is > said to truly exist. The world, which is just His imagination and > which is completely not nothing. The world is made of an iota of > energy of God. God is like the infinite ocean of energy. Compared to > God the world is almost nothing. Thus this entire creation is under > the full control of God. Just like the person doing some imagination > creates an imaginary world in him, God created this imaginary world > in Him. The imagining person can fully control the world. He can > transform any item into any other item. He can raise a dead body in > His imaginary world. All the miracles of human incarnations can be > explained only by this concept. > > God who is present in the human incarnation does all these miracles > only to establish this concept. If the world is equally true, then > the world is equally powerful to God. In such case God cannot do > whatever He likes. Since the world is least powerful and God is most > powerful, God controls the entire world like a very strong person > controlling very weak person. Thus the word truth indicates the > omnipotent nature of God. When we say that this world is not true, > it indicates the negligible power of the world. Suppose a small ant > is on your shirt, will you say that yourself and the ant are present > in the house? The ant is negligible and is treated as nothing. > Therefore, a person who knows this concept surrenders to God and > accepts Him as the saviour. In his eyes the entire world looks like > an ant before God. You are a tiny particle in this ant-world. You > can understand your position by putting a relative scale. > > Assume that this ant is Infinite Ocean of energy. You are an iota of > that ocean. This means your power is negligible before the power of > this entire nature. The world is like the ocean and you are like a > drop in it. God is like the ocean and the world a drop in God. You > must understand this simile not in terms of volume but in terms of > the intensity of the power. When we utter the word God, we > immediately imagine Him as a very large figure with unlimited > boundaries. The space is largest but as no power as it is treated > has nothing. The atom bomb is very small but it has enormous power. > Therefore, our idea about God should not be in terms of the three- > dimensional space. When a person imagines a large city, the city is > very huge but the person is very small. But that small person has > created, maintains and finally dissolves this huge city. He can do > anything in this huge city. Infact He is standing outside this huge > city. When He wants to enter into this huge imaginary city, He will > imagine a small form and He identifies Himself with that form. That > small form represents the outside person. This imagined form, which > is identified by the outside person, is treated as the outside > person directly. This imagined small form is the human incarnation. > The outside person is God. The imaginary huge city is this world. > > Thus God identifies Himself with the human incarnation. From this > angle the human incarnation and the God are one and the same. There > is another angle in which the human incarnation is not the original > God but a part and parcel of God. In this angle God and the human > incarnation are treated as father and son. You can experience the > Father only through this Son. In the third angle the human > incarnation is just sent by God into this world as a messenger with > some power. Jesus talked this truth in all the three angles. Jesus > can save any human being who has any one of these three angles. > Acceptance of Jesus as your saviour is the essential step in the > spiritual effort. Here Jesus means the human incarnation in general. > Only God is the saviour. But you cannot approach God directly. Only > through the human incarnation you can approach God. This means you > should accept the human incarnation as that very God. In such case > only the human incarnation becomes your saviour. > > God is like free electrons flowing in the atmosphere. These > Electrons are the electricity. Then can you heat water by keeping > the vessel containing water in the atmosphere? When these Electrons > enter a medium like the metallic wire, you can heat water. If the > medium is human form it is most convenient for you to clear your > doubts, to love and to serve Him. Therefore, acceptance of Jesus as > your Saviour means that you should accept the human incarnation as > your saviour. It is told that Jesus will come again. This means that > the human incarnation is coming in every human generation. > > at the lotus feet of shri datta swami > surya > http://www.universal-spirituality.org " God " is wonderful peace and love " whoever " don't see/feel/isn't this peace and love.....see the " power of God " .......somewhere.... but not within him/herself Marc > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2006 Report Share Posted June 21, 2006 The two great scriptures The Bible & The Gita, say that Lord comes in human form, 'God-in-flesh' and 'Manusheem Tanumasritaam'. Generally theists believe in the past messengers. They accept only the past incarnations. Both Jesus and Krishna told that they come again. But, no weightage is given to these words in their eyes. Infact Lord comes in every generation otherwise He becomes partial by giving His divine experience to only some people. Ofcourse even the past messengers were also not identified by the people present during that time. This is mainly because of jealousy and egoism. This is a continuous process going on and on. The fundamental problem lies in accepting the present messenger in front of our eyes. Like in the past, messengers keep coming in the present and future also, but always a handful of people only accept at the most. The knowledge required to identify Him is the divine knowledge which is to be learnt. Otherwise the same stalemate continues. at the lotus feet of shri datta swami surya www.universal-spirituality.org " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33 wrote: > > " God " is wonderful peace and love > " whoever " don't see/feel/isn't this peace and love.....see the " power of God " .......somewhere....but not within him/herself > > Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 22, 2006 Report Share Posted June 22, 2006 Nisargadatta , " surya " <dattapr2000 wrote: > if your heart is pure..... when the love is pure....and so knowledge is pure..... all the ones are present.... here and now.... " who " realised " God " ......... a special moment of being ..... a special moment of complete melting with the Love (of God).... a special moment of loosing the identification with the imaginary and limited ego-mind..... a special moment ....which become.....endless.....infinite.....peace......love......light.... for those special ones..... " who " reflecte Oneness..... in all of their pure being......through all parts of body and mind..... Marc Ps: the ones " who " identificate with the little ego- mind....restless...... are present also.... in a bubble of dream.... which tend to end.... .....one day > The two great scriptures The Bible & The Gita, say that Lord comes > in human form, 'God-in-flesh' and 'Manusheem Tanumasritaam'. > > Generally theists believe in the past messengers. They accept only > the past incarnations. Both Jesus and Krishna told that they come > again. But, no weightage is given to these words in their eyes. > Infact Lord comes in every generation otherwise He becomes partial > by giving His divine experience to only some people. Ofcourse even > the past messengers were also not identified by the people present > during that time. This is mainly because of jealousy and egoism. > This is a continuous process going on and on. > > The fundamental problem lies in accepting the present messenger in > front of our eyes. Like in the past, messengers keep coming in the > present and future also, but always a handful of people only accept > at the most. The knowledge required to identify Him is the divine > knowledge which is to be learnt. Otherwise the same stalemate > continues. > > at the lotus feet of shri datta swami > surya > www.universal-spirituality.org > > > " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > " God " is wonderful peace and love > > " whoever " don't see/feel/isn't this peace and love.....see > the " power of God " .......somewhere....but not within him/herself > > > > Marc > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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