Guest guest Posted June 21, 2006 Report Share Posted June 21, 2006 Friends have no need of reassurance Although the voice of their beloved chases lurking demons far away. Friends have no need of words, Althought their words are always a beacon of wisdom to the beloved's ear. Friends are woven from the same essentiel thread of silence, surrounding, holding patiently, And yet their breaking that Silence in a most foolish way is always touching and deepening their beloved`s path Into the Light they share. Patricia p.s: compared to Silence, words are foolish. _________________________ Mail réinvente le mail ! Découvrez le nouveau Mail et son interface révolutionnaire. http://fr.mail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2006 Report Share Posted June 21, 2006 Nisargadatta , OConnor Patricia <gdtige wrote: > > > > > Friends have no need of reassurance > Although the voice of their beloved > chases lurking demons far away. > > Friends have no need of words, > Althought their words are always > a beacon of wisdom to the beloved's ear. > > Friends are woven from the same > essentiel thread of silence, > surrounding, holding patiently, > And yet their breaking that Silence > in a most foolish way > is always touching and deepening > their beloved`s path > Into the Light they share. > > Patricia > > > > p.s: compared to Silence, words are foolish. > Thank you ever so much for this Patricia, I was wondering where you were, and here you are;-) I am distressed with the 'Niz and Larry' scenario. I wonder ladies and gentlemen how Niz or Naz would have acted and reacted to this " dramedy " . Are we so weak that we can not take 'words' and throw someone out of, of all places, a Nisargadatta venue? Or our hearts? Are the 'bylaws and declarations' of the group more important than the individual? I think the individual is tantamount to the group. Are spiritual groups no better than religious organizations that ostracize, shun, expel, excommunicate their parishioners for their 'sins'? I know this is how we cast our own selves out of the Garden of Eden. I choose, and the operative word here is CHOOSE to live by a precept from Naem Karoli Baba: " Do what you must, but never throw anyone out of your heart. " and IMHO, must must be willing to go beyond--the situation and the person we are now and the person we are at odds with. Yours In Love, Ana > > > > > > > ___________________ ______ > Mail réinvente le mail ! Découvrez le nouveau Mail et son interface révolutionnaire. > http://fr.mail. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2006 Report Share Posted June 21, 2006 Nisargadatta , OConnor Patricia <gdtige wrote: > > > > > Friends have no need of reassurance > Although the voice of their beloved > chases lurking demons far away. > > Friends have no need of words, > Althought their words are always > a beacon of wisdom to the beloved's ear. > > Friends are woven from the same > essentiel thread of silence, > surrounding, holding patiently, > And yet their breaking that Silence > in a most foolish way > is always touching and deepening > their beloved`s path > Into the Light they share. > > Patricia > > > > p.s: compared to Silence, words are foolish Agree, better than webcams tho. A Great Silence overcomes me, and I wonder why I ever thought to use language. RUMI > > > > > > > > > > ___________________ ______ > Mail réinvente le mail ! Découvrez le nouveau Mail et son interface révolutionnaire. > http://fr.mail. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 22, 2006 Report Share Posted June 22, 2006 Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana wrote: > > Nisargadatta , OConnor Patricia <gdtige@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Friends have no need of reassurance > > Although the voice of their beloved > > chases lurking demons far away. > > > > Friends have no need of words, > > Althought their words are always > > a beacon of wisdom to the beloved's ear. > > > > Friends are woven from the same > > essentiel thread of silence, > > surrounding, holding patiently, > > And yet their breaking that Silence > > in a most foolish way > > is always touching and deepening > > their beloved`s path > > Into the Light they share. > > > > Patricia > > > > > > > > p.s: compared to Silence, words are foolish. > > > > Thank you ever so much for this Patricia, I was wondering where > you were, and here you are;-) > > I am distressed with the 'Niz and Larry' scenario. I wonder > ladies and gentlemen how Niz or Naz would have acted and reacted to > this " dramedy " . > > Are we so weak that we can not take 'words' and throw someone out > of, of all places, a Nisargadatta venue? Or our hearts? Are > the 'bylaws and declarations' of the group more important than the > individual? > > I think the individual is tantamount to the group. Are spiritual > groups no better than religious organizations that ostracize, shun, > expel, excommunicate their parishioners for their 'sins'? > > I know this is how we cast our own selves out of the Garden of > Eden. > > I choose, and the operative word here is CHOOSE to live by a > precept from Naem Karoli Baba: > > " Do what you must, but never throw anyone out of your heart. " > > and IMHO, must must be willing to go beyond--the situation and > the person we are now and the person we are at odds with. > > Yours In Love, > Ana > > I feel the same way. However, I can also relate to Hur: I have been getting unsolicited e-mails from Larry, who insisted on treating me as though I were Bob Nixon, simply because I had shared that I liked Bob. No amount of patient explaining could convince Larry to be civil toward me. So I finally wrote Larry back letting him know that I wasn't going to be reading his posts. All the while, I continue to see myself in Larry: a seed profoundly unloved and unable to live up, either to others' ideals or my own, seething with anger at the hypocrisy I experienced in both myself and in others. Wanting desperately to fit in, but unwilling to compromise my sense of authenticity to do so. Feeling authentically despised, and despising authentically back. Having experienced " truth " as abrasive, harsh, bitter and intolerant, I told myself and others " the truth " in the same scalding way. Like my parents, I too am an immigrant. They suffered a persecution that brought them to this country. But persecution is not merely a State, but a state of mind. It takes a lot longer to pass through customs than most think. Sometimes decades, sometimes generations. Sometimes never. The barrier transcends language. The language of the soul must be learned, yes, in silence, but also in profound patience. Wisdom begins to cure the disease of living with the serenity of dying to a frenetic world: Nothing to do Nothing to say Nowhere to go Nothing to be But the being of ease And the easing of being ~*~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 22, 2006 Report Share Posted June 22, 2006 Nisargadatta , " Johan " <yohansky wrote: > > Nisargadatta , OConnor Patricia <gdtige@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Friends have no need of reassurance > > Although the voice of their beloved > > chases lurking demons far away. > > > > Friends have no need of words, > > Althought their words are always > > a beacon of wisdom to the beloved's ear. > > > > Friends are woven from the same > > essentiel thread of silence, > > surrounding, holding patiently, > > And yet their breaking that Silence > > in a most foolish way > > is always touching and deepening > > their beloved`s path > > Into the Light they share. > > > > Patricia > > > > > > > > p.s: compared to Silence, words are foolish > > Agree, better than webcams tho. > > > A Great Silence overcomes me, > and I wonder why I ever thought > to use language. > RUMI > > > > Hi All, Once again I should be amazed, and in a sense still am: for every human atrocity and ugliness, the scent of the violet still clings to the heel that crushed it. Out of every 'negative' situation there is beauty and truth that will ever shine through and through. Out of every 'positive' situation a possible 'negativity' may have to be endured, if for no other reason, as sure as the sun comes up, all things pass away. There is a reason for existence for every human being, the catalyist ushering in the next moment; as it is written so it shall be... Yours in Love, Ana > > > > > > > > > > > ___________________ > ______ > > Mail réinvente le mail ! Découvrez le nouveau Mail > et son interface révolutionnaire. > > http://fr.mail. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 22, 2006 Report Share Posted June 22, 2006 Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana wrote: > > Nisargadatta , OConnor Patricia <gdtige@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Friends have no need of reassurance > > Although the voice of their beloved > > chases lurking demons far away. > > > > Friends have no need of words, > > Althought their words are always > > a beacon of wisdom to the beloved's ear. > > > > Friends are woven from the same > > essentiel thread of silence, > > surrounding, holding patiently, > > And yet their breaking that Silence > > in a most foolish way > > is always touching and deepening > > their beloved`s path > > Into the Light they share. > > > > Patricia > > > > > > > > p.s: compared to Silence, words are foolish. > > > > Thank you ever so much for this Patricia, I was wondering where > you were, and here you are;-) > > I am distressed with the 'Niz and Larry' scenario. I wonder > ladies and gentlemen how Niz or Naz would have acted and reacted to > this " dramedy " . > > Are we so weak that we can not take 'words' and throw someone out > of, of all places, a Nisargadatta venue? Or our hearts? Are > the 'bylaws and declarations' of the group more important than the > individual? > > I think the individual is tantamount to the group. Are spiritual > groups no better than religious organizations that ostracize, shun, > expel, excommunicate their parishioners for their 'sins'? > > I know this is how we cast our own selves out of the Garden of > Eden. > > I choose, and the operative word here is CHOOSE to live by a > precept from Naem Karoli Baba: > > " Do what you must, but never throw anyone out of your heart. " > > and IMHO, must must be willing to go beyond--the situation and > the person we are now and the person we are at odds with. > > Yours In Love, > Ana > re: " Are we so weak that we can not take 'words' and throw someone out of, of all places, a Nisargadatta venue? " I didn't know anyone was thrown out. Was someone kicked off the list? Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 22, 2006 Report Share Posted June 22, 2006 Nisargadatta , OConnor Patricia <gdtige wrote: > > > > > Friends have no need of reassurance > Although the voice of their beloved > chases lurking demons far away. > > Friends have no need of words, > Althought their words are always > a beacon of wisdom to the beloved's ear. > > Friends are woven from the same > essentiel thread of silence, > surrounding, holding patiently, > And yet their breaking that Silence > in a most foolish way > is always touching and deepening > their beloved`s path > Into the Light they share. > > Patricia > > > > p.s: compared to Silence, words are foolish. nice aroma.... thank you Marc > > > > > > > > > > ____________________ _____ > Mail réinvente le mail ! Découvrez le nouveau Mail et son interface révolutionnaire. > http://fr.mail. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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