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--- stuartkfmn <stuartkfmn a écrit :

 

> OConnor Patricia <gdtige wrote:

> >

> >

> > --- stuartkfmn <stuartkfmn a écrit :

> >

> > > Nisargadatta , OConnor

> > > Patricia <gdtige@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > --- stuartkfmn <stuartkfmn@> a écrit :

> > > >

> > > > > I was listening to a podcast recorded by a

> > > student

> > > > > of Zen, a Michael

> > > > > McAlister. The URL is

> > > > > http://infinitesmile.org/

> > > > > The specific podcast is " 1/7/2006 ISmile95 -

> " It

> > > Is

> > > > > Not About Intellect " " .

> > > > >

> > > > > When the podcast ended I experienced the

> > > following

> > > > > realization:

> > > > > -----

> > > > > The shock that stops the mind:

> > > > > I seek a new anchor to hold onto.

> > > > > I am offered one that would be far more

> > > desirable

> > > > > than the one that

> > > > > I am now grasping.

> > > > > I completely let go of the old anchor

> while

> > > fixing

> > > > > all of my

> > > > > attention upon the new one.

> > > > > I jump to the new anchor… but suddenly I

> see

> > > that

> > > > > it was a mirage,

> > > > > that there is nothing at all there for me to

> > > > > grasp!!!

> > > > > I am shocked, and I am stopped.

> > > > >

> > > > > When there is nothing to hold onto nor any

> > > > > expectation nor hope of

> > > > > finding something to grasp… there is no one

> to

> > > do

> > > > > the grasping.

> > > > > ------

> > > > >

> > > > > Stu

> > > >

> > > > is there a falling then?

> > > >

> > > > PAtricia

> > > > >

> > >

> > > Really really good question!:-)

> > >

> > > No, there is no falling... because if there is a

> > > fear, such as

> > > falling, then that in itself is a " thing " ,

> something

> > > to grasp so that

> > > one can stay real or alive as " self the

> falling " .

> > ................

> > P : what if there is falling with no fear, no

> > grasping?

> > Can that be?

> > ...................

>

> I don't know:-)

> But to me falling is a sensation in relation to a

> thing that isn't

> falling or is falling at a different speed, so if I

> feel falling I am

> feeling contrast with the opposite pole of

> falling... the background

> to falling, which for me is " not falling " .

> But what I just described is polar, and maybe you

> are describing

> something that is not polar?

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

there has been talk about twoness today.

Maybe non-duality is the oneness of twoness, if that

makes sense.

In that sense, there are no more problems, no more

friction between manifestation and unmanifested, only

a dance.

I was watching couples dancing tango the other night,

...........ooohhh their oneness!!!

 

~~~

 

........................

 

 

 

>

> Stuart

>

>

>

> > > If this is true, " that there is no one to do the

> > > grasping " , it is only

> > > so if the magnitude of the " nothing to hold

> onto " is

> > > total, an absolute.

> > > For me it is never an event of magnitude and so

> is

> > > short lived.

> > >

> > > Stu

> > >

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