RE : RE : A realization

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Nisargadatta , OConnor Patricia <gdtige wrote:

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> --- stuartkfmn <stuartkfmn a écrit :

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> > OConnor Patricia <gdtige@> wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > --- stuartkfmn <stuartkfmn@> a écrit :

> > >

> > > > Nisargadatta , OConnor

> > > > Patricia <gdtige@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > --- stuartkfmn <stuartkfmn@> a écrit :

> > > > >

> > > > > > I was listening to a podcast recorded by a

> > > > student

> > > > > > of Zen, a Michael

> > > > > > McAlister. The URL is

> > > > > > http://infinitesmile.org/

> > > > > > The specific podcast is " 1/7/2006 ISmile95 -

> > " It

> > > > Is

> > > > > > Not About Intellect " " .

> > > > > >

> > > > > > When the podcast ended I experienced the

> > > > following

> > > > > > realization:

> > > > > > -----

> > > > > > The shock that stops the mind:

> > > > > > I seek a new anchor to hold onto.

> > > > > > I am offered one that would be far more

> > > > desirable

> > > > > > than the one that

> > > > > > I am now grasping.

> > > > > > I completely let go of the old anchor

> > while

> > > > fixing

> > > > > > all of my

> > > > > > attention upon the new one.

> > > > > > I jump to the new anchor… but suddenly I

> > see

> > > > that

> > > > > > it was a mirage,

> > > > > > that there is nothing at all there for me to

> > > > > > grasp!!!

> > > > > > I am shocked, and I am stopped.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > When there is nothing to hold onto nor any

> > > > > > expectation nor hope of

> > > > > > finding something to grasp… there is no one

> > to

> > > > do

> > > > > > the grasping.

> > > > > > ------

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Stu

> > > > >

> > > > > is there a falling then?

> > > > >

> > > > > PAtricia

> > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > Really really good question!:-)

> > > >

> > > > No, there is no falling... because if there is a

> > > > fear, such as

> > > > falling, then that in itself is a " thing " ,

> > something

> > > > to grasp so that

> > > > one can stay real or alive as " self the

> > falling " .

> > > ................

> > > P : what if there is falling with no fear, no

> > > grasping?

> > > Can that be?

> > > ...................

> >

> > I don't know:-)

> > But to me falling is a sensation in relation to a

> > thing that isn't

> > falling or is falling at a different speed, so if I

> > feel falling I am

> > feeling contrast with the opposite pole of

> > falling... the background

> > to falling, which for me is " not falling " .

> > But what I just described is polar, and maybe you

> > are describing

> > something that is not polar?

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

> there has been talk about twoness today.

> Maybe non-duality is the oneness of twoness, if that

> makes sense.

> In that sense, there are no more problems, no more

> friction between manifestation and unmanifested, only

> a dance.

> I was watching couples dancing tango the other night,

> ..........ooohhh their oneness!!!

>

> ~~~

>

> .......................

 

 

 

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