Guest guest Posted June 23, 2006 Report Share Posted June 23, 2006 if you are walking in the jungle... a wooden stick will not be of much help... there is a million wooden-things....and whatever piece of wood you stick with or look for or you name it....it will only keep you in the jungle.... as long as there is the ego being interrested in any part of the jungle (playing with words in any style...) such as trying to hard to express the nameless... trying to hard to express the uselessness of trying..... trying...trying...doing...interfering...being involved in the jungle somehow.... ALL WORDS ARE THE JUNGLE and to break out so to speak you can not make use of, or be dependent on anything junglish... leave the jungle alone.......and be who you are (this is not even a choice) if you want to make a choice, then you are in the jungle ... and there is a million of wooden things to like and dislike... there is really nothing to say... ....unless you are interrested in the jungle... and if you are, the jungle is full of books and films and you name it .... all this jada jada....and there is really nothing to say.... all those words... why do we play this, and take ourselves to be jungle-jims... a jungle-jim....what is it really... ....iietsa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 23, 2006 Report Share Posted June 23, 2006 Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa wrote: > > if you are walking in the jungle... > a wooden stick will not be of much help... > there is a million wooden-things....and whatever piece of wood you > stick with or look for or you name it....it will only keep you in > the jungle.... > as long as there is the ego being interrested in any part of the > jungle (playing with words in any style...) > such as trying to hard to express the nameless... > trying to hard to express the uselessness of trying..... > trying...trying...doing...interfering...being involved in the jungle > somehow.... > ALL WORDS ARE THE JUNGLE > and to break out so to speak > you can not make use of, or be dependent on anything junglish... > > leave the jungle alone.......and be who you are (this is not even a > choice) > if you want to make a choice, then you are in the jungle ... > and there is a million of wooden things to like and dislike... > > there is really nothing to say... > ...unless you are interrested in the jungle... > and if you are, the jungle is full of books and films and you name it > ... > all this jada jada....and there is really nothing to say.... > all those words... > why do we play this, and take ourselves to be jungle-jims... > a jungle-jim....what is it really... > ...iietsa > words can be an expression of intent to define, to designate what is real. such words are as you say. but words can be simply energy forms, like breath a glance a sigh words can be extrusions of being forged in the hot moment of livingness emanating what you have written, is it words that try to limit and define what words can be? and what you have written, is it aimed at invalidating what others have written or may write? why shoot arrows of words to bring other words down when words can be seeds for blossoming? Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2006 Report Share Posted June 24, 2006 Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " <pliantheart wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > if you are walking in the jungle... > > a wooden stick will not be of much help... > > there is a million wooden-things....and whatever piece of wood you > > stick with or look for or you name it....it will only keep you in > > the jungle.... > > as long as there is the ego being interrested in any part of the > > jungle (playing with words in any style...) > > such as trying to hard to express the nameless... > > trying to hard to express the uselessness of trying..... > > trying...trying...doing...interfering...being involved in the > jungle > > somehow.... > > ALL WORDS ARE THE JUNGLE > > and to break out so to speak > > you can not make use of, or be dependent on anything junglish... > > > > leave the jungle alone.......and be who you are (this is not even a > > choice) > > if you want to make a choice, then you are in the jungle ... > > and there is a million of wooden things to like and dislike... > > > > there is really nothing to say... > > ...unless you are interrested in the jungle... > > and if you are, the jungle is full of books and films and you name > it > > ... > > all this jada jada....and there is really nothing to say.... > > all those words... > > why do we play this, and take ourselves to be jungle-jims... > > a jungle-jim....what is it really... > > ...iietsa > > > > words can be an expression of intent > to define, to designate what is real. > > such words are as you say. > > but words can be simply energy forms, > like breath > a glance > a sigh > > words can be extrusions of being > forged in the hot moment > of livingness > emanating > > > what you have written, > is it words that try to limit > and define > what words can be? ..................words can be nothing more than what you make them........make them wholy and you can follow.....make them nothing....and you dont need them....words are mind-and you are not mind...unless you are selfish.......iietsa > and what you have written, > is it aimed at invalidating > what others have written > or may write? ....................it is not trying to change anything...its a mirror...look closely and youll see there is nothing....deny transparancy and there is a whole lot of importancy going on everywhere in words..............iietsa > why shoot arrows of words > to bring other words down > when words can be seeds > for blossoming? ................words are not arrows unless you make them arrows.... I shoot nothing at nobody.....those are just words-please dont take them to be personal arrows....and words can not be seeds of blossoming.....at the most they can be a good sign pointint out what is not blossoming.....iietsa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2006 Report Share Posted June 24, 2006 Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " <pliantheart@> > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > if you are walking in the jungle... > > > a wooden stick will not be of much help... > > > there is a million wooden-things....and whatever piece of wood > you > > > stick with or look for or you name it....it will only keep you > in > > > the jungle.... > > > as long as there is the ego being interrested in any part of the > > > jungle (playing with words in any style...) > > > such as trying to hard to express the nameless... > > > trying to hard to express the uselessness of trying..... > > > trying...trying...doing...interfering...being involved in the > > jungle > > > somehow.... > > > ALL WORDS ARE THE JUNGLE > > > and to break out so to speak > > > you can not make use of, or be dependent on anything junglish... > > > > > > leave the jungle alone.......and be who you are (this is not > even a > > > choice) > > > if you want to make a choice, then you are in the jungle ... > > > and there is a million of wooden things to like and dislike... > > > > > > there is really nothing to say... > > > ...unless you are interrested in the jungle... > > > and if you are, the jungle is full of books and films and you > name > > it > > > ... > > > all this jada jada....and there is really nothing to say.... > > > all those words... > > > why do we play this, and take ourselves to be jungle-jims... > > > a jungle-jim....what is it really... > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > words can be an expression of intent > > to define, to designate what is real. > > > > such words are as you say. > > > > but words can be simply energy forms, > > like breath > > a glance > > a sigh > > > > words can be extrusions of being > > forged in the hot moment > > of livingness > > emanating > > > > > > what you have written, > > is it words that try to limit > > and define > > what words can be? > ..................words can be nothing more than what you make > them........make them wholy and you can follow.....make them > nothing....and you dont need them....words are mind-and you are not > mind...unless you are selfish.......iietsa > > and what you have written, > > is it aimed at invalidating > > what others have written > > or may write? > ....................it is not trying to change anything...its a > mirror...look closely and youll see there is nothing....deny > transparancy and there is a whole lot of importancy going on > everywhere in words..............iietsa > > why shoot arrows of words > > to bring other words down > > when words can be seeds > > for blossoming? > ...............words are not arrows unless you make them arrows.... > I shoot nothing at nobody.....those are just words-please dont take > them to be personal arrows....and words can not be seeds of > blossoming.....at the most they can be a good sign pointint out what > is not blossoming.....iietsa > re: " and words can not be seeds of blossoming..... " anything can be a seed of blossoming. you are treating words as a special class of phenomena. words and the flight of birds, the sound of thunder... are all just phenomena. if there is any problem with words, it is in seeing words as separate from life rather than just a part of life. Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2006 Report Share Posted June 24, 2006 Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " <pliantheart wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " <pliantheart@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > if you are walking in the jungle... > > > > a wooden stick will not be of much help... > > > > there is a million wooden-things....and whatever piece of wood > > you > > > > stick with or look for or you name it....it will only keep you > > in > > > > the jungle.... > > > > as long as there is the ego being interrested in any part of the > > > > jungle (playing with words in any style...) > > > > such as trying to hard to express the nameless... > > > > trying to hard to express the uselessness of trying..... > > > > trying...trying...doing...interfering...being involved in the > > > jungle > > > > somehow.... > > > > ALL WORDS ARE THE JUNGLE > > > > and to break out so to speak > > > > you can not make use of, or be dependent on anything junglish... > > > > > > > > leave the jungle alone.......and be who you are (this is not > > even a > > > > choice) > > > > if you want to make a choice, then you are in the jungle ... > > > > and there is a million of wooden things to like and dislike... > > > > > > > > there is really nothing to say... > > > > ...unless you are interrested in the jungle... > > > > and if you are, the jungle is full of books and films and you > > name > > > it > > > > ... > > > > all this jada jada....and there is really nothing to say.... > > > > all those words... > > > > why do we play this, and take ourselves to be jungle-jims... > > > > a jungle-jim....what is it really... > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > words can be an expression of intent > > > to define, to designate what is real. > > > > > > such words are as you say. > > > > > > but words can be simply energy forms, > > > like breath > > > a glance > > > a sigh > > > > > > words can be extrusions of being > > > forged in the hot moment > > > of livingness > > > emanating > > > > > > > > > what you have written, > > > is it words that try to limit > > > and define > > > what words can be? > > ..................words can be nothing more than what you make > > them........make them wholy and you can follow.....make them > > nothing....and you dont need them....words are mind-and you are not > > mind...unless you are selfish.......iietsa > > > and what you have written, > > > is it aimed at invalidating > > > what others have written > > > or may write? > > ....................it is not trying to change anything...its a > > mirror...look closely and youll see there is nothing....deny > > transparancy and there is a whole lot of importancy going on > > everywhere in words..............iietsa > > > why shoot arrows of words > > > to bring other words down > > > when words can be seeds > > > for blossoming? > > ...............words are not arrows unless you make them arrows.... > > I shoot nothing at nobody.....those are just words-please dont take > > them to be personal arrows....and words can not be seeds of > > blossoming.....at the most they can be a good sign pointint out what > > is not blossoming.....iietsa > > > > re: > " and words can not be seeds of blossoming..... " > > anything can be a seed of blossoming. > > you are treating words as a special class of > phenomena. words and the flight of birds, > the sound of thunder... are all just phenomena. > > if there is any problem with words, it is in > seeing words as separate from life rather than > just a part of life. > > Bill > there is nothing problematic at all about words...ok only words are not the real... they are empty if you just dont cling to them.... and if in focus...you are mislead ....iietsa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2006 Report Share Posted June 24, 2006 Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " <pliantheart@> > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " > <pliantheart@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > if you are walking in the jungle... > > > > > a wooden stick will not be of much help... > > > > > there is a million wooden-things....and whatever piece of > wood > > > you > > > > > stick with or look for or you name it....it will only keep > you > > > in > > > > > the jungle.... > > > > > as long as there is the ego being interrested in any part of > the > > > > > jungle (playing with words in any style...) > > > > > such as trying to hard to express the nameless... > > > > > trying to hard to express the uselessness of trying..... > > > > > trying...trying...doing...interfering...being involved in > the > > > > jungle > > > > > somehow.... > > > > > ALL WORDS ARE THE JUNGLE > > > > > and to break out so to speak > > > > > you can not make use of, or be dependent on anything > junglish... > > > > > > > > > > leave the jungle alone.......and be who you are (this is not > > > even a > > > > > choice) > > > > > if you want to make a choice, then you are in the jungle ... > > > > > and there is a million of wooden things to like and > dislike... > > > > > > > > > > there is really nothing to say... > > > > > ...unless you are interrested in the jungle... > > > > > and if you are, the jungle is full of books and films and > you > > > name > > > > it > > > > > ... > > > > > all this jada jada....and there is really nothing to say.... > > > > > all those words... > > > > > why do we play this, and take ourselves to be jungle-jims... > > > > > a jungle-jim....what is it really... > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > words can be an expression of intent > > > > to define, to designate what is real. > > > > > > > > such words are as you say. > > > > > > > > but words can be simply energy forms, > > > > like breath > > > > a glance > > > > a sigh > > > > > > > > words can be extrusions of being > > > > forged in the hot moment > > > > of livingness > > > > emanating > > > > > > > > > > > > what you have written, > > > > is it words that try to limit > > > > and define > > > > what words can be? > > > ..................words can be nothing more than what you make > > > them........make them wholy and you can follow.....make them > > > nothing....and you dont need them....words are mind-and you are > not > > > mind...unless you are selfish.......iietsa > > > > and what you have written, > > > > is it aimed at invalidating > > > > what others have written > > > > or may write? > > > ....................it is not trying to change anything...its a > > > mirror...look closely and youll see there is nothing....deny > > > transparancy and there is a whole lot of importancy going on > > > everywhere in words..............iietsa > > > > why shoot arrows of words > > > > to bring other words down > > > > when words can be seeds > > > > for blossoming? > > > ...............words are not arrows unless you make them > arrows.... > > > I shoot nothing at nobody.....those are just words-please dont > take > > > them to be personal arrows....and words can not be seeds of > > > blossoming.....at the most they can be a good sign pointint out > what > > > is not blossoming.....iietsa > > > > > > > re: > > " and words can not be seeds of blossoming..... " > > > > anything can be a seed of blossoming. > > > > you are treating words as a special class of > > phenomena. words and the flight of birds, > > the sound of thunder... are all just phenomena. > > > > if there is any problem with words, it is in > > seeing words as separate from life rather than > > just a part of life. > > > > Bill > > > there is nothing problematic at all about words...ok > only words are not the real... > they are empty if you just dont cling to them.... > and if in focus...you are mislead > ...iietsa > " You " is made of words. toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2006 Report Share Posted June 24, 2006 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " <pliantheart@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " > > <pliantheart@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > if you are walking in the jungle... > > > > > > a wooden stick will not be of much help... > > > > > > there is a million wooden-things....and whatever piece of > > wood > > > > you > > > > > > stick with or look for or you name it....it will only keep > > you > > > > in > > > > > > the jungle.... > > > > > > as long as there is the ego being interrested in any part of > > the > > > > > > jungle (playing with words in any style...) > > > > > > such as trying to hard to express the nameless... > > > > > > trying to hard to express the uselessness of trying..... > > > > > > trying...trying...doing...interfering...being involved in > > the > > > > > jungle > > > > > > somehow.... > > > > > > ALL WORDS ARE THE JUNGLE > > > > > > and to break out so to speak > > > > > > you can not make use of, or be dependent on anything > > junglish... > > > > > > > > > > > > leave the jungle alone.......and be who you are (this is not > > > > even a > > > > > > choice) > > > > > > if you want to make a choice, then you are in the jungle ... > > > > > > and there is a million of wooden things to like and > > dislike... > > > > > > > > > > > > there is really nothing to say... > > > > > > ...unless you are interrested in the jungle... > > > > > > and if you are, the jungle is full of books and films and > > you > > > > name > > > > > it > > > > > > ... > > > > > > all this jada jada....and there is really nothing to say.... > > > > > > all those words... > > > > > > why do we play this, and take ourselves to be jungle-jims... > > > > > > a jungle-jim....what is it really... > > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > words can be an expression of intent > > > > > to define, to designate what is real. > > > > > > > > > > such words are as you say. > > > > > > > > > > but words can be simply energy forms, > > > > > like breath > > > > > a glance > > > > > a sigh > > > > > > > > > > words can be extrusions of being > > > > > forged in the hot moment > > > > > of livingness > > > > > emanating > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > what you have written, > > > > > is it words that try to limit > > > > > and define > > > > > what words can be? > > > > ..................words can be nothing more than what you make > > > > them........make them wholy and you can follow.....make them > > > > nothing....and you dont need them....words are mind-and you are > > not > > > > mind...unless you are selfish.......iietsa > > > > > and what you have written, > > > > > is it aimed at invalidating > > > > > what others have written > > > > > or may write? > > > > ....................it is not trying to change anything...its a > > > > mirror...look closely and youll see there is nothing....deny > > > > transparancy and there is a whole lot of importancy going on > > > > everywhere in words..............iietsa > > > > > why shoot arrows of words > > > > > to bring other words down > > > > > when words can be seeds > > > > > for blossoming? > > > > ...............words are not arrows unless you make them > > arrows.... > > > > I shoot nothing at nobody.....those are just words-please dont > > take > > > > them to be personal arrows....and words can not be seeds of > > > > blossoming.....at the most they can be a good sign pointint out > > what > > > > is not blossoming.....iietsa > > > > > > > > > > re: > > > " and words can not be seeds of blossoming..... " > > > > > > anything can be a seed of blossoming. > > > > > > you are treating words as a special class of > > > phenomena. words and the flight of birds, > > > the sound of thunder... are all just phenomena. > > > > > > if there is any problem with words, it is in > > > seeing words as separate from life rather than > > > just a part of life. > > > > > > Bill > > > > > there is nothing problematic at all about words...ok > > only words are not the real... > > they are empty if you just dont cling to them.... > > and if in focus...you are mislead > > ...iietsa > > > > > > " You " is made of words. > > > toombaru > I thought it was made of tar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2006 Report Share Posted June 24, 2006 Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " <skywords wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " <pliantheart@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " > > > <pliantheart@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if you are walking in the jungle... > > > > > > > a wooden stick will not be of much help... > > > > > > > there is a million wooden-things....and whatever piece of > > > wood > > > > > you > > > > > > > stick with or look for or you name it....it will only keep > > > you > > > > > in > > > > > > > the jungle.... > > > > > > > as long as there is the ego being interrested in any part of > > > the > > > > > > > jungle (playing with words in any style...) > > > > > > > such as trying to hard to express the nameless... > > > > > > > trying to hard to express the uselessness of trying..... > > > > > > > trying...trying...doing...interfering...being involved in > > > the > > > > > > jungle > > > > > > > somehow.... > > > > > > > ALL WORDS ARE THE JUNGLE > > > > > > > and to break out so to speak > > > > > > > you can not make use of, or be dependent on anything > > > junglish... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > leave the jungle alone.......and be who you are (this is not > > > > > even a > > > > > > > choice) > > > > > > > if you want to make a choice, then you are in the jungle ... > > > > > > > and there is a million of wooden things to like and > > > dislike... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > there is really nothing to say... > > > > > > > ...unless you are interrested in the jungle... > > > > > > > and if you are, the jungle is full of books and films and > > > you > > > > > name > > > > > > it > > > > > > > ... > > > > > > > all this jada jada....and there is really nothing to say.... > > > > > > > all those words... > > > > > > > why do we play this, and take ourselves to be jungle-jims... > > > > > > > a jungle-jim....what is it really... > > > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > words can be an expression of intent > > > > > > to define, to designate what is real. > > > > > > > > > > > > such words are as you say. > > > > > > > > > > > > but words can be simply energy forms, > > > > > > like breath > > > > > > a glance > > > > > > a sigh > > > > > > > > > > > > words can be extrusions of being > > > > > > forged in the hot moment > > > > > > of livingness > > > > > > emanating > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > what you have written, > > > > > > is it words that try to limit > > > > > > and define > > > > > > what words can be? > > > > > ..................words can be nothing more than what you make > > > > > them........make them wholy and you can follow.....make them > > > > > nothing....and you dont need them....words are mind-and you are > > > not > > > > > mind...unless you are selfish.......iietsa > > > > > > and what you have written, > > > > > > is it aimed at invalidating > > > > > > what others have written > > > > > > or may write? > > > > > ....................it is not trying to change anything...its a > > > > > mirror...look closely and youll see there is nothing....deny > > > > > transparancy and there is a whole lot of importancy going on > > > > > everywhere in words..............iietsa > > > > > > why shoot arrows of words > > > > > > to bring other words down > > > > > > when words can be seeds > > > > > > for blossoming? > > > > > ...............words are not arrows unless you make them > > > arrows.... > > > > > I shoot nothing at nobody.....those are just words-please dont > > > take > > > > > them to be personal arrows....and words can not be seeds of > > > > > blossoming.....at the most they can be a good sign pointint out > > > what > > > > > is not blossoming.....iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > re: > > > > " and words can not be seeds of blossoming..... " > > > > > > > > anything can be a seed of blossoming. > > > > > > > > you are treating words as a special class of > > > > phenomena. words and the flight of birds, > > > > the sound of thunder... are all just phenomena. > > > > > > > > if there is any problem with words, it is in > > > > seeing words as separate from life rather than > > > > just a part of life. > > > > > > > > Bill > > > > > > > there is nothing problematic at all about words...ok > > > only words are not the real... > > > they are empty if you just dont cling to them.... > > > and if in focus...you are mislead > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > " You " is made of words. > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > I thought it was made of tar. > Same thing. toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2006 Report Share Posted June 24, 2006 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " <skywords@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " <pliantheart@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " > > > > <pliantheart@> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if you are walking in the jungle... > > > > > > > > a wooden stick will not be of much help... > > > > > > > > there is a million wooden-things....and whatever piece of > > > > wood > > > > > > you > > > > > > > > stick with or look for or you name it....it will only keep > > > > you > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > the jungle.... > > > > > > > > as long as there is the ego being interrested in any > part of > > > > the > > > > > > > > jungle (playing with words in any style...) > > > > > > > > such as trying to hard to express the nameless... > > > > > > > > trying to hard to express the uselessness of trying..... > > > > > > > > trying...trying...doing...interfering...being involved in > > > > the > > > > > > > jungle > > > > > > > > somehow.... > > > > > > > > ALL WORDS ARE THE JUNGLE > > > > > > > > and to break out so to speak > > > > > > > > you can not make use of, or be dependent on anything > > > > junglish... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > leave the jungle alone.......and be who you are (this is > not > > > > > > even a > > > > > > > > choice) > > > > > > > > if you want to make a choice, then you are in the jungle ... > > > > > > > > and there is a million of wooden things to like and > > > > dislike... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > there is really nothing to say... > > > > > > > > ...unless you are interrested in the jungle... > > > > > > > > and if you are, the jungle is full of books and films and > > > > you > > > > > > name > > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > ... > > > > > > > > all this jada jada....and there is really nothing to say.... > > > > > > > > all those words... > > > > > > > > why do we play this, and take ourselves to be jungle-jims... > > > > > > > > a jungle-jim....what is it really... > > > > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > words can be an expression of intent > > > > > > > to define, to designate what is real. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > such words are as you say. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but words can be simply energy forms, > > > > > > > like breath > > > > > > > a glance > > > > > > > a sigh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > words can be extrusions of being > > > > > > > forged in the hot moment > > > > > > > of livingness > > > > > > > emanating > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > what you have written, > > > > > > > is it words that try to limit > > > > > > > and define > > > > > > > what words can be? > > > > > > ..................words can be nothing more than what you > make > > > > > > them........make them wholy and you can follow.....make them > > > > > > nothing....and you dont need them....words are mind-and you are > > > > not > > > > > > mind...unless you are selfish.......iietsa > > > > > > > and what you have written, > > > > > > > is it aimed at invalidating > > > > > > > what others have written > > > > > > > or may write? > > > > > > ....................it is not trying to change > anything...its a > > > > > > mirror...look closely and youll see there is nothing....deny > > > > > > transparancy and there is a whole lot of importancy going on > > > > > > everywhere in words..............iietsa > > > > > > > why shoot arrows of words > > > > > > > to bring other words down > > > > > > > when words can be seeds > > > > > > > for blossoming? > > > > > > ...............words are not arrows unless you make them > > > > arrows.... > > > > > > I shoot nothing at nobody.....those are just words-please dont > > > > take > > > > > > them to be personal arrows....and words can not be seeds of > > > > > > blossoming.....at the most they can be a good sign pointint out > > > > what > > > > > > is not blossoming.....iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > re: > > > > > " and words can not be seeds of blossoming..... " > > > > > > > > > > anything can be a seed of blossoming. > > > > > > > > > > you are treating words as a special class of > > > > > phenomena. words and the flight of birds, > > > > > the sound of thunder... are all just phenomena. > > > > > > > > > > if there is any problem with words, it is in > > > > > seeing words as separate from life rather than > > > > > just a part of life. > > > > > > > > > > Bill > > > > > > > > > there is nothing problematic at all about words...ok > > > > only words are not the real... > > > > they are empty if you just dont cling to them.... > > > > and if in focus...you are mislead > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " You " is made of words. > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > I thought it was made of tar. > > > > > > Same thing. > > > toombaru > needs a little editing work. ~*~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2006 Report Share Posted June 24, 2006 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " <pliantheart@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " > > <pliantheart@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > if you are walking in the jungle... > > > > > > a wooden stick will not be of much help... > > > > > > there is a million wooden-things....and whatever piece of > > wood > > > > you > > > > > > stick with or look for or you name it....it will only keep > > you > > > > in > > > > > > the jungle.... > > > > > > as long as there is the ego being interrested in any part of > > the > > > > > > jungle (playing with words in any style...) > > > > > > such as trying to hard to express the nameless... > > > > > > trying to hard to express the uselessness of trying..... > > > > > > trying...trying...doing...interfering...being involved in > > the > > > > > jungle > > > > > > somehow.... > > > > > > ALL WORDS ARE THE JUNGLE > > > > > > and to break out so to speak > > > > > > you can not make use of, or be dependent on anything > > junglish... > > > > > > > > > > > > leave the jungle alone.......and be who you are (this is not > > > > even a > > > > > > choice) > > > > > > if you want to make a choice, then you are in the jungle ... > > > > > > and there is a million of wooden things to like and > > dislike... > > > > > > > > > > > > there is really nothing to say... > > > > > > ...unless you are interrested in the jungle... > > > > > > and if you are, the jungle is full of books and films and > > you > > > > name > > > > > it > > > > > > ... > > > > > > all this jada jada....and there is really nothing to say.... > > > > > > all those words... > > > > > > why do we play this, and take ourselves to be jungle- jims... > > > > > > a jungle-jim....what is it really... > > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > words can be an expression of intent > > > > > to define, to designate what is real. > > > > > > > > > > such words are as you say. > > > > > > > > > > but words can be simply energy forms, > > > > > like breath > > > > > a glance > > > > > a sigh > > > > > > > > > > words can be extrusions of being > > > > > forged in the hot moment > > > > > of livingness > > > > > emanating > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > what you have written, > > > > > is it words that try to limit > > > > > and define > > > > > what words can be? > > > > ..................words can be nothing more than what you make > > > > them........make them wholy and you can follow.....make them > > > > nothing....and you dont need them....words are mind-and you are > > not > > > > mind...unless you are selfish.......iietsa > > > > > and what you have written, > > > > > is it aimed at invalidating > > > > > what others have written > > > > > or may write? > > > > ....................it is not trying to change anything...its a > > > > mirror...look closely and youll see there is nothing....deny > > > > transparancy and there is a whole lot of importancy going on > > > > everywhere in words..............iietsa > > > > > why shoot arrows of words > > > > > to bring other words down > > > > > when words can be seeds > > > > > for blossoming? > > > > ...............words are not arrows unless you make them > > arrows.... > > > > I shoot nothing at nobody.....those are just words-please dont > > take > > > > them to be personal arrows....and words can not be seeds of > > > > blossoming.....at the most they can be a good sign pointint out > > what > > > > is not blossoming.....iietsa > > > > > > > > > > re: > > > " and words can not be seeds of blossoming..... " > > > > > > anything can be a seed of blossoming. > > > > > > you are treating words as a special class of > > > phenomena. words and the flight of birds, > > > the sound of thunder... are all just phenomena. > > > > > > if there is any problem with words, it is in > > > seeing words as separate from life rather than > > > just a part of life. > > > > > > Bill > > > > > there is nothing problematic at all about words...ok > > only words are not the real... > > they are empty if you just dont cling to them.... > > and if in focus...you are mislead > > ...iietsa > > > > > > " You " is made of words. > > > toombaru > yes....youre absolutely right... and I (my true nature..not the word I..ok) dont give a damn if there is the word " I " or not. or " you " or not. or " you name it " cause even if there were no words at all..... my true nature would not be affected at all.... and it is not affected if there is words either.... I am talking from beyond the alfhabetic-world.... .....iietsa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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