Guest guest Posted June 24, 2006 Report Share Posted June 24, 2006 the person has only worldly knowledge... and worldly knowledge is useless when it comes to happiness... the person can not know happiness only the word " happiness " can the person know... .....iietsa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2006 Report Share Posted June 24, 2006 Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa wrote: > > the person has only worldly knowledge... > and worldly knowledge is useless when it comes to happiness... > > the person can not know happiness > only the word " happiness " can the person know... > > ....iietsa you can talk your way to the moon... or uranus...but(t)... either happiness is here...or it is not... ....iietsa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2006 Report Share Posted June 24, 2006 Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > the person has only worldly knowledge... > > and worldly knowledge is useless when it comes to happiness... > > > > the person can not know happiness > > only the word " happiness " can the person know... > > > > ....iietsa > > you can talk your way to the moon... or uranus...but(t)... > either happiness is here...or it is not... > > ...iietsa > Happiness requires a separation........in separation.......there is no happiness. toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2006 Report Share Posted June 24, 2006 Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > the person has only worldly knowledge... > > and worldly knowledge is useless when it comes to happiness... > > > > the person can not know happiness > > only the word " happiness " can the person know... > > > > ....iietsa > > you can talk your way to the moon... or uranus...but(t)... > either happiness is here...or it is not... > > ...iietsa > I can walk my way to happiness because everything is whatever I make of it I am free, I am freedom If you believe you are bound, you are bound If you believe you are free, you are free If you believe happiness is here...or it is not... Then, so it is: for you. ~*~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2006 Report Share Posted June 24, 2006 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > the person has only worldly knowledge... > > > and worldly knowledge is useless when it comes to happiness... > > > > > > the person can not know happiness > > > only the word " happiness " can the person know... > > > > > > ....iietsa > > > > you can talk your way to the moon... or uranus...but(t)... > > either happiness is here...or it is not... > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > Happiness requires a separation........in separation.......there is no > happiness. > > > toombaru > So be it: for you. ~*~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2006 Report Share Posted June 24, 2006 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > the person has only worldly knowledge... > > > and worldly knowledge is useless when it comes to happiness... > > > > > > the person can not know happiness > > > only the word " happiness " can the person know... > > > > > > ....iietsa > > > > you can talk your way to the moon... or uranus...but(t)... > > either happiness is here...or it is not... > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > Happiness requires a separation........in separation.......there is no > happiness. > > > toombaru > to you, happiness seem to be something different from who you are ? to me, happiness is who I am.... as you say there is no happiness in separation...ok... but I am not talking of happiness given from objects...(separation) who I am (and who you are) is happiness...or real presence... ....iietsa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2006 Report Share Posted June 24, 2006 Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " <skywords wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > the person has only worldly knowledge... > > > and worldly knowledge is useless when it comes to happiness... > > > > > > the person can not know happiness > > > only the word " happiness " can the person know... > > > > > > ....iietsa > > > > you can talk your way to the moon... or uranus...but(t)... > > either happiness is here...or it is not... > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > I can walk my way to happiness because everything is whatever I make > of it > > I am free, I am freedom > > If you believe you are bound, you are bound > If you believe you are free, you are free > > If you believe happiness is here...or it is not... > Then, so it is: for you. > > ~*~ what you say seems to me...to be all mind-made... the happiness I am talking about is not a belief... not something you created...it is there...it is its own presence .....iietsa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2006 Report Share Posted June 24, 2006 Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " <skywords@> > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > the person has only worldly knowledge... > > > > and worldly knowledge is useless when it comes to happiness... > > > > > > > > the person can not know happiness > > > > only the word " happiness " can the person know... > > > > > > > > ....iietsa > > > > > > you can talk your way to the moon... or uranus...but(t)... > > > either happiness is here...or it is not... > > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > I can walk my way to happiness because everything is whatever I > make > > of it > > > > I am free, I am freedom > > > > If you believe you are bound, you are bound > > If you believe you are free, you are free > > > > If you believe happiness is here...or it is not... > > Then, so it is: for you. > > > > ~*~ > what you say seems to me...to be all mind-made... > the happiness I am talking about is not a belief... > not something you created...it is there...it is its own presence > ....iietsa > I am That (which creates my universe) not with mind nor not with mind. Depends on whose " mind. " If I am That, then I am greater than mind or any-thing else. I any case, what do I care whence happiness, whence mind, whence anything? (I already am That.) ~*~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2006 Report Share Posted June 24, 2006 Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " <skywords wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > the person has only worldly knowledge... > > > and worldly knowledge is useless when it comes to happiness... > > > > > > the person can not know happiness > > > only the word " happiness " can the person know... > > > > > > ....iietsa > > > > you can talk your way to the moon... or uranus...but(t)... > > either happiness is here...or it is not... > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > I can walk my way to happiness because everything is whatever I make > of it > > I am free, I am freedom > > If you believe you are bound, you are bound > If you believe you are free, you are free > > If you believe happiness is here...or it is not... > Then, so it is: for you. > > ~*~ > How's that workin out for ya? toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2006 Report Share Posted June 24, 2006 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " <skywords@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > the person has only worldly knowledge... > > > > and worldly knowledge is useless when it comes to happiness... > > > > > > > > the person can not know happiness > > > > only the word " happiness " can the person know... > > > > > > > > ....iietsa > > > > > > you can talk your way to the moon... or uranus...but(t)... > > > either happiness is here...or it is not... > > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > I can walk my way to happiness because everything is whatever I make > > of it > > > > I am free, I am freedom > > > > If you believe you are bound, you are bound > > If you believe you are free, you are free > > > > If you believe happiness is here...or it is not... > > Then, so it is: for you. > > > > ~*~ > How's that workin out for ya? > > > > > toombaru > It's working GREAT, Dr. Phil!! ~*~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2006 Report Share Posted June 24, 2006 Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > the person has only worldly knowledge... > > > > and worldly knowledge is useless when it comes to happiness... > > > > > > > > the person can not know happiness > > > > only the word " happiness " can the person know... > > > > > > > > ....iietsa > > > > > > you can talk your way to the moon... or uranus...but(t)... > > > either happiness is here...or it is not... > > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > Happiness requires a separation........in separation.......there > is no > > happiness. > > > > > > toombaru > > > to you, happiness seem to be something different from who you are ? > to me, happiness is who I am.... > as you say there is no happiness in separation...ok... > but I am not talking of happiness given from objects...(separation) > who I am (and who you are) is happiness...or real presence... > > ...iietsa > Nope.........That's just something you read somewhere. toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2006 Report Share Posted June 24, 2006 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > the person has only worldly knowledge... > > > > > and worldly knowledge is useless when it comes to happiness... > > > > > > > > > > the person can not know happiness > > > > > only the word " happiness " can the person know... > > > > > > > > > > ....iietsa > > > > > > > > you can talk your way to the moon... or uranus...but(t)... > > > > either happiness is here...or it is not... > > > > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Happiness requires a separation........in separation.......there > > is no > > > happiness. > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > to you, happiness seem to be something different from who you are ? > > to me, happiness is who I am.... > > as you say there is no happiness in separation...ok... > > but I am not talking of happiness given from objects...(separation) > > who I am (and who you are) is happiness...or real presence... > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > Nope.........That's just something you read somewhere. > > > toombaru > There are a lot of " nope " dopes out there. I'm not saying you're one, T bone, but you must admit, that's what a tar baby is: no? ~*~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2006 Report Share Posted June 24, 2006 Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " <skywords wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " <skywords@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > the person has only worldly knowledge... > > > > > and worldly knowledge is useless when it comes to happiness... > > > > > > > > > > the person can not know happiness > > > > > only the word " happiness " can the person know... > > > > > > > > > > ....iietsa > > > > " > > > > you can talk your way to the moon... or uranus...but(t)... > > > > either happiness is here...or it is not... > > > > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > I can walk my way to happiness because everything is whatever I > > make > > > of it > > > > > > I am free, I am freedom > > > > > > If you believe you are bound, you are bound > > > If you believe you are free, you are free > > > > > > If you believe happiness is here...or it is not... > > > Then, so it is: for you. > > > > > > ~*~ > > what you say seems to me...to be all mind-made... > > the happiness I am talking about is not a belief... > > not something you created...it is there...it is its own presence > > ....iietsa > > > > > I am That (which creates my universe) not with mind nor not with mind. > Depends on whose " mind. " If I am That, then I am greater than mind > or any-thing else. > > I any case, what do I care whence happiness, whence mind, whence > anything? (I already am That.) > > ~*~ > The great egoic delusion is: " I am everything. " toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2006 Report Share Posted June 24, 2006 Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " <skywords wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > the person has only worldly knowledge... > > > > > > and worldly knowledge is useless when it comes to happiness... > > > > > > > > > > > > the person can not know happiness > > > > > > only the word " happiness " can the person know... > > > > > > > > > > > > ....iietsa > > > > > > > > > > you can talk your way to the moon... or uranus...but(t)... > > > > > either happiness is here...or it is not... > > > > > > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Happiness requires a separation........in separation.......there > > > is no > > > > happiness. > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > to you, happiness seem to be something different from who you are ? > > > to me, happiness is who I am.... > > > as you say there is no happiness in separation...ok... > > > but I am not talking of happiness given from objects...(separation) > > > who I am (and who you are) is happiness...or real presence... > > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > Nope.........That's just something you read somewhere. > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > There are a lot of " nope " dopes out there. I'm not saying you're one, > T bone, but you must admit, that's what a tar baby is: no? > > ~*~ > Tar Babies are nothing but tar. toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2006 Report Share Posted June 24, 2006 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " <skywords@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " <skywords@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > the person has only worldly knowledge... > > > > > > and worldly knowledge is useless when it comes to happiness... > > > > > > > > > > > > the person can not know happiness > > > > > > only the word " happiness " can the person know... > > > > > > > > > > > > ....iietsa > > > > > > " > > > > you can talk your way to the moon... or uranus...but(t)... > > > > > either happiness is here...or it is not... > > > > > > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I can walk my way to happiness because everything is whatever I > > > make > > > > of it > > > > > > > > I am free, I am freedom > > > > > > > > If you believe you are bound, you are bound > > > > If you believe you are free, you are free > > > > > > > > If you believe happiness is here...or it is not... > > > > Then, so it is: for you. > > > > > > > > ~*~ > > > what you say seems to me...to be all mind-made... > > > the happiness I am talking about is not a belief... > > > not something you created...it is there...it is its own presence > > > ....iietsa > > > > > > > > > I am That (which creates my universe) not with mind nor not with mind. > > Depends on whose " mind. " If I am That, then I am greater than mind > > or any-thing else. > > > > I any case, what do I care whence happiness, whence mind, whence > > anything? (I already am That.) > > > > ~*~ > > > > > The great egoic delusion is: > > " I am everything. " > > > > > toombaru > The great egoic delusion is that you know what the great egoic delusio is. But I don't want to play ping-pong with you, T. Let's take a break, my boy. ~*~ ~*~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2006 Report Share Posted June 24, 2006 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " <skywords@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the person has only worldly knowledge... > > > > > > > and worldly knowledge is useless when it comes to happiness... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the person can not know happiness > > > > > > > only the word " happiness " can the person know... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ....iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > you can talk your way to the moon... or uranus...but(t)... > > > > > > either happiness is here...or it is not... > > > > > > > > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Happiness requires a separation........in separation.......there > > > > is no > > > > > happiness. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > to you, happiness seem to be something different from who you are ? > > > > to me, happiness is who I am.... > > > > as you say there is no happiness in separation...ok... > > > > but I am not talking of happiness given from objects...(separation) > > > > who I am (and who you are) is happiness...or real presence... > > > > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nope.........That's just something you read somewhere. > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > There are a lot of " nope " dopes out there. I'm not saying you're one, > > T bone, but you must admit, that's what a tar baby is: no? > > > > ~*~ > > > > > > Tar Babies are nothing but tar. > > > > toombaru > Change the rules in midstream and call it a koan. Very daddyo, very daddyo. ~*~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2006 Report Share Posted June 24, 2006 Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " <skywords wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " <skywords@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " <skywords@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the person has only worldly knowledge... > > > > > > > and worldly knowledge is useless when it comes to happiness... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the person can not know happiness > > > > > > > only the word " happiness " can the person know... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ....iietsa > > > > > > > > " > > > > you can talk your way to the moon... or uranus...but(t)... > > > > > > either happiness is here...or it is not... > > > > > > > > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I can walk my way to happiness because everything is whatever I > > > > make > > > > > of it > > > > > > > > > > I am free, I am freedom > > > > > > > > > > If you believe you are bound, you are bound > > > > > If you believe you are free, you are free > > > > > > > > > > If you believe happiness is here...or it is not... > > > > > Then, so it is: for you. > > > > > > > > > > ~*~ > > > > what you say seems to me...to be all mind-made... > > > > the happiness I am talking about is not a belief... > > > > not something you created...it is there...it is its own presence > > > > ....iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am That (which creates my universe) not with mind nor not with mind. > > > Depends on whose " mind. " If I am That, then I am greater than mind > > > or any-thing else. > > > > > > I any case, what do I care whence happiness, whence mind, whence > > > anything? (I already am That.) > > > > > > ~*~ > > > > > > > > > The great egoic delusion is: > > > > " I am everything. " > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > The great egoic delusion is that you know what the great egoic delusio is. > > But I don't want to play ping-pong with you, T. Let's take a break, > my boy. > > ~*~ > > ~*~ > I have composed a song for you.....on my tar sitar. toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2006 Report Share Posted June 24, 2006 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " <skywords@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " <skywords@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " <skywords@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the person has only worldly knowledge... > > > > > > > > and worldly knowledge is useless when it comes to > happiness... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the person can not know happiness > > > > > > > > only the word " happiness " can the person know... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ....iietsa > > > > > > > > > > " > > > > you can talk your way to the moon... or uranus...but(t)... > > > > > > > either happiness is here...or it is not... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I can walk my way to happiness because everything is whatever I > > > > > make > > > > > > of it > > > > > > > > > > > > I am free, I am freedom > > > > > > > > > > > > If you believe you are bound, you are bound > > > > > > If you believe you are free, you are free > > > > > > > > > > > > If you believe happiness is here...or it is not... > > > > > > Then, so it is: for you. > > > > > > > > > > > > ~*~ > > > > > what you say seems to me...to be all mind-made... > > > > > the happiness I am talking about is not a belief... > > > > > not something you created...it is there...it is its own presence > > > > > ....iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am That (which creates my universe) not with mind nor not with > mind. > > > > Depends on whose " mind. " If I am That, then I am greater than mind > > > > or any-thing else. > > > > > > > > I any case, what do I care whence happiness, whence mind, whence > > > > anything? (I already am That.) > > > > > > > > ~*~ > > > > > > > > > > > > > The great egoic delusion is: > > > > > > " I am everything. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > The great egoic delusion is that you know what the great egoic > delusio is. > > > > But I don't want to play ping-pong with you, T. Let's take a break, > > my boy. > > > > ~*~ > > > > ~*~ > > > > > > I have composed a song for you.....on my tar sitar. > > > > toombaru > I don't accept. (Sorry.) ~*~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2006 Report Share Posted June 24, 2006 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > the person has only worldly knowledge... > > > > > and worldly knowledge is useless when it comes to happiness... > > > > > > > > > > the person can not know happiness > > > > > only the word " happiness " can the person know... > > > > > > > > > > ....iietsa > > > > > > > > you can talk your way to the moon... or uranus...but(t)... > > > > either happiness is here...or it is not... > > > > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Happiness requires a separation........in separation.......there > > is no > > > happiness. > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > to you, happiness seem to be something different from who you are ? > > to me, happiness is who I am.... > > as you say there is no happiness in separation...ok... > > but I am not talking of happiness given from objects... (separation) > > who I am (and who you are) is happiness...or real presence... > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > Nope.........That's just something you read somewhere. > > > toombaru > or could it be your belife, that I am wrong somehow.... could that be something you read somewhere ? ....iietsa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2006 Report Share Posted June 24, 2006 Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > the person has only worldly knowledge... > > > > > > and worldly knowledge is useless when it comes to > happiness... > > > > > > > > > > > > the person can not know happiness > > > > > > only the word " happiness " can the person know... > > > > > > > > > > > > ....iietsa > > > > > > > > > > you can talk your way to the moon... or uranus...but(t)... > > > > > either happiness is here...or it is not... > > > > > > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Happiness requires a separation........in > separation.......there > > > is no > > > > happiness. > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > to you, happiness seem to be something different from who you > are ? > > > to me, happiness is who I am.... > > > as you say there is no happiness in separation...ok... > > > but I am not talking of happiness given from objects... > (separation) > > > who I am (and who you are) is happiness...or real presence... > > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > Nope.........That's just something you read somewhere. > > > > > > toombaru > > > or could it be your belife, that I am wrong somehow.... > could that be something you read somewhere ? > ...iietsa > iietsa, how could you suggest such a thing? ~*~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2006 Report Share Posted June 24, 2006 Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " <skywords wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the person has only worldly knowledge... > > > > > > > and worldly knowledge is useless when it comes to > > happiness... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the person can not know happiness > > > > > > > only the word " happiness " can the person know... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ....iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > you can talk your way to the moon... or uranus...but (t)... > > > > > > either happiness is here...or it is not... > > > > > > > > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Happiness requires a separation........in > > separation.......there > > > > is no > > > > > happiness. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > to you, happiness seem to be something different from who you > > are ? > > > > to me, happiness is who I am.... > > > > as you say there is no happiness in separation...ok... > > > > but I am not talking of happiness given from objects... > > (separation) > > > > who I am (and who you are) is happiness...or real presence... > > > > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nope.........That's just something you read somewhere. > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > or could it be your belife, that I am wrong somehow.... > > could that be something you read somewhere ? > > ...iietsa > > > > > iietsa, how could you suggest such a thing? > > ~*~ its not a suggestion.... its a mirror....what you send-you receive...so to speak I see nothing wrong.... there is words....I dont warship words...thats all there is just (too much) focuse on the word-thing going on .........on this list... I am only pointing that out.... stay who you are....all words are nothing.... you are the treasure....the rest is nothing ....iietsa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2006 Report Share Posted June 24, 2006 Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " <skywords@> > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " > <lastrain@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the person has only worldly knowledge... > > > > > > > > and worldly knowledge is useless when it comes to > > > happiness... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the person can not know happiness > > > > > > > > only the word " happiness " can the person know... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ....iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you can talk your way to the moon... or uranus...but > (t)... > > > > > > > either happiness is here...or it is not... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Happiness requires a separation........in > > > separation.......there > > > > > is no > > > > > > happiness. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > to you, happiness seem to be something different from who > you > > > are ? > > > > > to me, happiness is who I am.... > > > > > as you say there is no happiness in separation...ok... > > > > > but I am not talking of happiness given from objects... > > > (separation) > > > > > who I am (and who you are) is happiness...or real presence... > > > > > > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nope.........That's just something you read somewhere. > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > or could it be your belife, that I am wrong somehow.... > > > could that be something you read somewhere ? > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > iietsa, how could you suggest such a thing? > > > > ~*~ > its not a suggestion.... > its a mirror....what you send-you receive...so to speak > I see nothing wrong.... > there is words....I dont warship words...thats all > there is just (too much) focuse on the word-thing going > on .........on this list... > I am only pointing that out.... > stay who you are....all words are nothing.... > you are the treasure....the rest is nothing > ...iietsa > I know that! Of course! I was just trying to be light, funny, you know, pretending that what you said was somehow " wrong. " But I didn't mean it. What I meant was that it was so obvious, that it had to be right. I'm on your side. Take it easy. Freedom. ;-)) ~*~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2006 Report Share Posted June 24, 2006 Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > the person has only worldly knowledge... > > > > > > and worldly knowledge is useless when it comes to > happiness... > > > > > > > > > > > > the person can not know happiness > > > > > > only the word " happiness " can the person know... > > > > > > > > > > > > ....iietsa > > > > > > > > > > you can talk your way to the moon... or uranus...but(t)... > > > > > either happiness is here...or it is not... > > > > > > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Happiness requires a separation........in > separation.......there > > > is no > > > > happiness. > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > to you, happiness seem to be something different from who you > are ? > > > to me, happiness is who I am.... > > > as you say there is no happiness in separation...ok... > > > but I am not talking of happiness given from objects... > (separation) > > > who I am (and who you are) is happiness...or real presence... > > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > Nope.........That's just something you read somewhere. > > > > > > toombaru > > > or could it be your belife, that I am wrong somehow.... > could that be something you read somewhere ? > ...iietsa > All beliefs are about things..........and there are no things. toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2006 Report Share Posted June 24, 2006 Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " <skywords wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " <skywords@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " > > <lastrain@> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the person has only worldly knowledge... > > > > > > > > > and worldly knowledge is useless when it comes to > > > > happiness... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the person can not know happiness > > > > > > > > > only the word " happiness " can the person know... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ....iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you can talk your way to the moon... or uranus...but > > (t)... > > > > > > > > either happiness is here...or it is not... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Happiness requires a separation........in > > > > separation.......there > > > > > > is no > > > > > > > happiness. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > to you, happiness seem to be something different from who > > you > > > > are ? > > > > > > to me, happiness is who I am.... > > > > > > as you say there is no happiness in separation...ok... > > > > > > but I am not talking of happiness given from objects... > > > > (separation) > > > > > > who I am (and who you are) is happiness...or real presence... > > > > > > > > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nope.........That's just something you read somewhere. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > or could it be your belife, that I am wrong somehow.... > > > > could that be something you read somewhere ? > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > iietsa, how could you suggest such a thing? > > > > > > ~*~ > > its not a suggestion.... > > its a mirror....what you send-you receive...so to speak > > I see nothing wrong.... > > there is words....I dont warship words...thats all > > there is just (too much) focuse on the word-thing going > > on .........on this list... > > I am only pointing that out.... > > stay who you are....all words are nothing.... > > you are the treasure....the rest is nothing > > ...iietsa > > > > > I know that! Of course! I was just trying to be light, funny, you > know, pretending that what you said was somehow " wrong. " But I didn't > mean it. What I meant was that it was so obvious, that it had to be > right. I'm on your side. Take it easy. > > Freedom. > > ;-)) > > ~*~ > IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2006 Report Share Posted June 24, 2006 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " <skywords@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " <skywords@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " > > > <lastrain@> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the person has only worldly knowledge... > > > > > > > > > > and worldly knowledge is useless when it comes to > > > > > happiness... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the person can not know happiness > > > > > > > > > > only the word " happiness " can the person know... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ....iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you can talk your way to the moon... or uranus...but > > > (t)... > > > > > > > > > either happiness is here...or it is not... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Happiness requires a separation........in > > > > > separation.......there > > > > > > > is no > > > > > > > > happiness. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to you, happiness seem to be something different from who > > > you > > > > > are ? > > > > > > > to me, happiness is who I am.... > > > > > > > as you say there is no happiness in separation...ok... > > > > > > > but I am not talking of happiness given from objects... > > > > > (separation) > > > > > > > who I am (and who you are) is happiness...or real presence... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nope.........That's just something you read somewhere. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > or could it be your belife, that I am wrong somehow.... > > > > > could that be something you read somewhere ? > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > iietsa, how could you suggest such a thing? > > > > > > > > ~*~ > > > its not a suggestion.... > > > its a mirror....what you send-you receive...so to speak > > > I see nothing wrong.... > > > there is words....I dont warship words...thats all > > > there is just (too much) focuse on the word-thing going > > > on .........on this list... > > > I am only pointing that out.... > > > stay who you are....all words are nothing.... > > > you are the treasure....the rest is nothing > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > I know that! Of course! I was just trying to be light, funny, you > > know, pretending that what you said was somehow " wrong. " But I didn't > > mean it. What I meant was that it was so obvious, that it had to be > > right. I'm on your side. Take it easy. > > > > Freedom. > > > > ;-)) > > ............................................................... ~*~ > > >\.....................~*~ ...........~*~ ..........................................~*~ > IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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