Guest guest Posted June 24, 2006 Report Share Posted June 24, 2006 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " <skywords@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " <skywords@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , OConnor Patricia <gdtige@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- skywhilds <skywords@> a écrit : > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " > > > > > > <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " > > > > > > <skywords@> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " > > > > > > <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " > > > > > > <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the person has only worldly knowledge... > > > > > > > > > > and worldly knowledge is useless when it > > > > > > comes to happiness... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the person can not know happiness > > > > > > > > > > only the word " happiness " can the person > > > > > > know... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ....iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you can talk your way to the moon... or > > > > > > uranus...but(t)... > > > > > > > > > either happiness is here...or it is not... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I can walk my way to happiness because > > > > > > everything is whatever I > > > > > > > make > > > > > > > > of it > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am free, I am freedom > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you believe you are bound, you are bound > > > > > > > > If you believe you are free, you are free > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you believe happiness is here...or it is > > > > > > not... > > > > > > > > Then, so it is: for you. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~*~ > > > > > > > what you say seems to me...to be all mind-made... > > > > > > > the happiness I am talking about is not a > > > > > > belief... > > > > > > > not something you created...it is there...it is > > > > > > its own presence > > > > > > > ....iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am That (which creates my universe) not with mind > > > > > > nor not with mind. > > > > > > Depends on whose " mind. " If I am That, then I am > > > > > > greater than mind > > > > > > or any-thing else. > > > > > > > > > > > > I any case, what do I care whence happiness, whence > > > > > > mind, whence > > > > > > anything? (I already am That.) > > > > > > > > > > > > ~*~ > > > > > > > > > > more words or so it seems. > > > > > What Ietsa is evoquing isn`t something you create or > > > > > beleive in. > > > > > Not mind stuff but heart emanation. > > > > > ~~~ > > > > > > > > > > > > More quibbling, or so it seems. > > > > > > > > What I'm evoking is precisely heart emanation. The freedom the > heart > > > > lives in and for, in my heart's experience. > > > > > > > > Come on, P! Do you think the heart wants to be bound? No, that > > > > bleeding of the heart is not compassion, it's Harlequin passion, as > > > > far as I can tell, seems really obvious to me. Don't want to be too > > > > assertive. It's codependent, don't you think? > > > > > > > > ;-) > > > > > > > > ~*~ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Any heart-speak has to be squeezed out of the mind. > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > You imagine too much effort. > > > > ~*~ > > > > > > You imagine that I imagine. > > > > toombaru > ping pong. You have one of the most active imaginations on this list, T! ;-))) ~*~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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