Guest guest Posted June 24, 2006 Report Share Posted June 24, 2006 > T: Within the dream......there is only dream food. > > toombaru > P: Would you concede that within the dream, there > are also nightmares? T: All things are in the dream. P: Is there an outside to the dream, iyo? >P: And is not wise, to turn > nightmares into peaceful dreams? T: Dreams are dreams. P: Did I ask for a tautology? Do you like to suffer? Do you like that others, such as your family, suffer? Don't you wish them goodnight when they go to bed? When all is > categorized as dream, what is the meaning of awakening? T: It is meaningless. P: Why do you post? T: No omne is asleep. P: No one is sleep? Yes, but... the dream is asleep, the dream suffers. Can the dream know itself as a dream? Would that end suffering? Take your time, flippant answers are admission of ignorance. >P: You are listed as a sage by Eric in 'the caterpillar' list. You seem > to agree with this characterization, since you provided a pic, > and a tale of how clouds awoke you. T: That came from Eric....... P: I know, but you agreed. You provided the inf. Why? > P: What do you think > Eric meant when he listed most of his posters, and himself as > sages? T: Egoic delusion. P: So why did you go along? He'd have removed your name if you asked. NNB > a) Just another poster here, who I want to flatter so he/she > keeps posting. A clever trick that seems not to be working > since most of those listed are not posting. > > b) A wise old person. > > c) One who has realized the Absolute. > > The word derives from the Latin word 'sapere' = to taste, or to know. > Also from the Saxon word 'ausebbian' = to perceive. > > So, what dream food you tasted which entitles you ( in your opinion) > to be called a sage? Clouds? " As clouds illusions I recall, I really > don't > know clouds.... at all. " > > Pete > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 25, 2006 Report Share Posted June 25, 2006 Nisargadatta , Pete S <pedsie5 wrote: > > > T: Within the dream......there is only dream food. > > > toombaru > > > P: Would you concede that within the dream, there > > are also nightmares? > > T: All things are in the dream. > > P: Is there an outside to the dream, iyo? No. > > >P: And is not wise, to turn > > nightmares into peaceful dreams? The attempt to do so exacerbates the suffering. All efforts to alleviate suffering are futile. When the understanding of the source of suffering dawns....it is no more relevant then a well made movie. > > T: Dreams are dreams. > > P: Did I ask for a tautology? All definitions are tautologies. > Do you like to suffer? Do you > like that others, such as your family, > suffer? Don't you wish them goodnight > when they go to bed? Do you like it here better then the summer? The above are meaningless qquestions. If there is a 'you'......it suffers.....The suffering is itself a symptom of an perceptual imperfection. The desire to avoid suffering.....leads to more suffering. There is way to end all suffering. > > When all is > > categorized as dream, what is the meaning of awakening? > > T: It is meaningless. > > P: Why do you post? > > T: No one is asleep. > > P: No one is sleep? Yes, but... > the dream is asleep, the dream suffers. > Can the dream know itself as a dream? Can the people in your dream last night know that they are dreampt. Can they ever wake up? Can they ever escape the dream? > Would that end suffering? Take your time, > flippant answers are admission of ignorance. All knowledge is ignorance. > > >P: You are listed as a sage by Eric in 'the caterpillar' list. You > seem > > to agree with this characterization, since you provided a pic, > > and a tale of how clouds awoke you. > > T: That came from Eric....... > > P: I know, but you agreed. You > provided the inf. Why? I provided no information to Eric. He asked........I did not respond....That information was all invented by him. I am no longer a member of his list. > > > P: What do you think > > Eric meant when he listed most of his posters, and himself as > > sages? > > T: Egoic delusion. > > P: So why did you go along? He'd have removed your name > if you asked. I am unaware of being on his list. I do not care where people put this name. toombaru toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 25, 2006 Report Share Posted June 25, 2006 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , Pete S <pedsie5@> wrote: > > > > > T: Within the dream......there is only dream food. > > > > toombaru > > > > > P: Would you concede that within the dream, there > > > are also nightmares? > > > > T: All things are in the dream. > > > > P: Is there an outside to the dream, iyo? > > > No. yes. It is " I " (another dream dreaming 'you'. > > > > > > > >P: And is not wise, to turn > > > nightmares into peaceful dreams? The attempt to do so exacerbates the suffering. > > All efforts to alleviate suffering are futile. > > When the understanding of the source of suffering dawns....it is no > more relevant then a well made movie. > Yet the movie continues on and on. > > > > > > > > > T: Dreams are dreams. > > > > P: Did I ask for a tautology? All definitions are tautologies. > thank you for providing both. > > > > > > > Do you like to suffer? Do you > > like that others, such as your family, > > suffer? Don't you wish them goodnight > > when they go to bed? > > > Do you like it here better then the summer? > > The above are meaningless qquestions. > > If there is a 'you'......it suffers.....The suffering is itself a > symptom of an perceptual imperfection. > > > The desire to avoid suffering.....leads to more suffering. > > There is way to end all suffering. > and yet we seek endlesssly to relieve suffering. it is the way of compassion. > > > > > > > > > When all is > > > categorized as dream, what is the meaning of awakening? > > > > T: It is meaningless. > > > > P: Why do you post? > > > > T: No one is asleep. > > > > P: No one is sleep? Yes, but... > > the dream is asleep, the dream suffers. > > Can the dream know itself as a dream? > > > > > Can the people in your dream last night know that they are dreampt. > > Can they ever wake up? > > Can they ever escape the dream? > > > > > > Would that end suffering? Take your time, > > flippant answers are admission of ignorance. > > > > > > All knowledge is ignorance. ignoring knowledge is _______. > > > > > > > >P: You are listed as a sage by Eric in 'the caterpillar' list. You > > seem > > > to agree with this characterization, since you provided a pic, > > > and a tale of how clouds awoke you. > > > > T: That came from Eric....... > > > > P: I know, but you agreed. You > > provided the inf. Why? > > > > I provided no information to Eric. > > He asked........I did not respond....That information was all invented > by him. > > I am no longer a member of his list. > so you don't hunt crocs or gaters???? oh, my. i loved being surprised by that 'toombaru' > > > > > > > > > P: What do you think > > > Eric meant when he listed most of his posters, and himself as > > > sages? > > > > T: Egoic delusion. > > > > P: So why did you go along? He'd have removed your name > > if you asked. > > > > > I am unaware of being on his list. > > I do not care where people put this name. > > > > toombaru ....that's obvious my Beloved, other wise you would use " Michael " isn't it time??? Yours In Love, Ana > > > > toombaru > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 25, 2006 Report Share Posted June 25, 2006 > > Yours In Love, > Ana > > > > > Anna, You always cool this old brow............ .........and swirl softly in these synapses. There are tree frogs singing down Strawberry Canyon. Do you hear them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 25, 2006 Report Share Posted June 25, 2006 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > > > > > Yours In Love, > > Ana > > > > > > > > > > > > > Anna, > > > > You always cool this old brow............ > > > ........and swirl softly in these synapses. > > > > There are tree frogs singing down Strawberry Canyon. > > > Do you hear them? > ....it's been too long, I'm not sure if I remember how to return to our Canyon....I'd love to hear the frogs, feel the ocean spray and see the naked children running to the ocean, playing once again...there is a sadness here...a longing...and tears... yours, Ana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 25, 2006 Report Share Posted June 25, 2006 Nisargadatta , Pete S <pedsie5 wrote: > > T: Within the dream......there is only dream food. > > toombaru > Mint said, " You can call him Sage but just don't call him Rosemary. " Cilantro disagreed and said he's more like Parsley and me, we can be added to just about any food. Everyone had a different opinion of what herb he was but they definetely knew he was no spice girl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 25, 2006 Report Share Posted June 25, 2006 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > > > > > Yours In Love, > > Ana > > > > > > > > > > > > > Anna, > > > > You always cool this old brow............ > > > ........and swirl softly in these synapses. > > > > There are tree frogs singing down Strawberry Canyon. > > > Do you hear them? > I used to live in Berkeley's Strawberry Canyon. ~*~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 25, 2006 Report Share Posted June 25, 2006 Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana wrote: > >> > > and yet we seek endlesssly to relieve suffering. it is the way of > compassion. > > ************ It never ceases to amaze me, the excuses people use, not only to justify, but to glorify their greed. Judi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 25, 2006 Report Share Posted June 25, 2006 Nisargadatta , " Judi Rhodes " <rhodesjudi wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana@> wrote: > > > >> > > > > and yet we seek endlesssly to relieve suffering. it is the way of > > compassion. > > > > > > ************ > It never ceases to amaze me, the excuses people use, not only to > justify, but to glorify their greed. > > > Judi > It is only reflections that can amaze. toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 25, 2006 Report Share Posted June 25, 2006 Nisargadatta , " Judi Rhodes " <rhodesjudi wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana@> wrote: > > > >> > > > > and yet we seek endlesssly to relieve suffering. it is the way of > > compassion. > > > > > > ************ > It never ceases to amaze me, the excuses people use, not only to > justify, but to glorify their greed. > > > Judi > I knew that if we made enough noise with our hammering, Judi, the wicked witch of the west, would appear! Hi, Judi! Got new boots to wear out on us? Have fun! There's no rest for those who " have a lesson to teach " the whirled. love ya I do I still see the Roaming Rhinos mug in my cupboard, every day! ;-)) love ~*~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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