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> > re:

> > " and words can not be seeds of blossoming..... "

> >

> > anything can be a seed of blossoming.

> >

> > you are treating words as a special class of

> > phenomena. words and the flight of birds,

> > the sound of thunder... are all just phenomena.

> >

> > if there is any problem with words, it is in

> > seeing words as separate from life rather than

> > just a part of life.

> >

> > Bill

> .....................................................

> the world :orange

>

> and then its taste color fragrance texture,

> stickiness, roundness etc...

> you call that the same thing?

> One is a label, the other one is the real stuff that

> you can experience.

> you can press the orange but how can you ever express

> it....

>

 

from the perspective of a person they do seem quite

distinct, don't they?

 

but all you mention are vibrations...

 

and are manifestations within Silence.

 

don't think of words in terms of " abstractions " ...

but in terms of instances...

a *particular* experience of some particular

words.

 

as an abstraction " orange " is a concept.

but that isn't real. No one ever experiences

the concept orange. But you do experience

the sensations of reading " orange " in a

particular moment.

 

if you go into words as something from the

standpoint of thought... *then* words are

distinct from all else...

 

but as sensory experience... they are just

phenomena like everything else... hearing

a line of poetry read vs. hearing the same

line of poetry as if " hummed " for example...

both are just sensation.

 

I read your words:

> and then its taste color fragrance texture,

> stickiness, roundness etc...

and those words go " through " as sensation,

as vibration, as energy patterns.

 

if you hum something to me then I might

hum something back. If you say something

to me I might say something back. If the

response (in words) JUST FLOWS OUT OF ME

(and this is key) then it all is

experienced as just energy going round.

 

it is when experience is as a mential operation

that words come to seem very different from

other phenomena.

 

in a *particular moment* whatever is experienced

is as vibrations arising within Silence.

The origin of those vibrations does not change

that the experience in the moment is as vibration

within Silence.

 

so what I am fundamentally saying is that *if*

experience is as vibrations arising in Silence

then " words read " or " words heard " or any other

*particular experience of words* is as vibrations

arising and is just phenomena arising in Silence.

 

that is the whole point of the realization that

all is just phenomena arising in Silence, as

" clouds in the coffee " as it were.

 

and see how what I am saying above can only be

understood if experience is immediate, direct,

in the Now... and not a mediated by " mind " ?

 

 

Bill

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