Guest guest Posted June 25, 2006 Report Share Posted June 25, 2006 Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > we forget our own true nature, when we get involved with > > > thoughts.... > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We have no true nature. > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > you appear to focus to much on the word-world...(maby you are > not) > > > > > > > > > No ideation can contain a life that is vital and changing and fully > > energetic. > > > > What is the 'true nature' of a wave......the sun.....a child? > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > you appear to focus on the wave...the sun...a child ? > ...iietsa > What is the nature of any thing? toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 25, 2006 Report Share Posted June 25, 2006 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > we forget our own true nature, when we get involved with > > > > thoughts.... > > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We have no true nature. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > you appear to focus to much on the word-world...(maby you are > > not) > > > > > > > > > > > > > No ideation can contain a life that is vital and changing and fully > > > energetic. > > > > > > What is the 'true nature' of a wave......the sun.....a child? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > you appear to focus on the wave...the sun...a child ? > > ...iietsa > > > > > > What is the nature of any thing? > > > toombaru > there is only one nature......... and this one nature, when focusing on any thing.... then (appers to) transform into an individual... then this one nature, takes itself to be the individual... and then the whole circus runs world-wide ....iietsa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 25, 2006 Report Share Posted June 25, 2006 Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " <pliantheart wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " <pliantheart@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > we forget our own true nature, when we get involved with > > thoughts.... > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > what do you mean by " involved with " ? > > > > > > there can be thought without any personal > > > attachment involved. > > > > > > for example, one does not have to, necessarily, > > > " forget one's own true nature " to solve a math > > > problem, even though it involves thought. > > > > > > so the key is not thought, but " involved with " . > > > > > > we forget our own true nature when we get > > > " involved with " X, for any X. [depending > > > on your definition of " involved with " of > > > course]. > > > > > > Bill > > > > yes...involfed with...or interfered with...or focused on.... > > all those is the ego-persons relations to and with X > > > > you know... that may be a very good way to get at > the so-called " ego " thing... > > " involved with " especially... > > for example " Where am I 'involved'? " > as a test of " Where I am not detached. " > > much appreciation, > Bill > WRITING we will never ever know who we are until we share our Being we will never ever know each other until we share our Meanings, this humanness with claws and teeth perspiration, inspiration, renunciation, lust and a lower common denominator of tendencies neatly packaged in Survival Mechanisms assimilated at the drop of a hat, confined, refined and defined, almost calculus unmentioned and unintentioned reprehensible Beauty we are so we give our struggle Power and Glory in speech and a good write. YIL, Ana 7/14/05 ;-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 25, 2006 Report Share Posted June 25, 2006 Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " <pliantheart@> > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " > <pliantheart@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > we forget our own true nature, when we get involved with > > > thoughts.... > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > what do you mean by " involved with " ? > > > > > > > > there can be thought without any personal > > > > attachment involved. > > > > > > > > for example, one does not have to, necessarily, > > > > " forget one's own true nature " to solve a math > > > > problem, even though it involves thought. > > > > > > > > so the key is not thought, but " involved with " . > > > > > > > > we forget our own true nature when we get > > > > " involved with " X, for any X. [depending > > > > on your definition of " involved with " of > > > > course]. > > > > > > > > Bill > > > > > > yes...involfed with...or interfered with...or focused on.... > > > all those is the ego-persons relations to and with X > > > > > > > you know... that may be a very good way to get at > > the so-called " ego " thing... > > > > " involved with " especially... > > > > for example " Where am I 'involved'? " > > as a test of " Where I am not detached. " > > > > much appreciation, > > Bill > > > > > > WRITING > > we will never ever know who we are until > we share our Being > we will never ever know each other > until we share our Meanings, > this humanness with claws and teeth > perspiration, inspiration, > renunciation, lust and a lower > common denominator of tendencies > neatly packaged > in Survival Mechanisms > assimilated at the drop of a hat, > confined, refined and defined, > almost calculus > unmentioned and unintentioned > reprehensible Beauty we are > so we give our struggle Power > and Glory in speech and > a good write. > > > YIL, > Ana > > 7/14/05 > > > ;-) > Write on! lv ~*~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 25, 2006 Report Share Posted June 25, 2006 Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " <pliantheart@> > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " > <pliantheart@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > we forget our own true nature, when we get involved with > > > thoughts.... > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > what do you mean by " involved with " ? > > > > > > > > there can be thought without any personal > > > > attachment involved. > > > > > > > > for example, one does not have to, necessarily, > > > > " forget one's own true nature " to solve a math > > > > problem, even though it involves thought. > > > > > > > > so the key is not thought, but " involved with " . > > > > > > > > we forget our own true nature when we get > > > > " involved with " X, for any X. [depending > > > > on your definition of " involved with " of > > > > course]. > > > > > > > > Bill > > > > > > yes...involfed with...or interfered with...or focused on.... > > > all those is the ego-persons relations to and with X > > > > > > > you know... that may be a very good way to get at > > the so-called " ego " thing... > > > > " involved with " especially... > > > > for example " Where am I 'involved'? " > > as a test of " Where I am not detached. " > > > > much appreciation, > > Bill > > > > > > WRITING > > we will never ever know who we are until > we share our Being > we will never ever know each other > until we share our Meanings, > this humanness with claws and teeth > perspiration, inspiration, > renunciation, lust and a lower > common denominator of tendencies > neatly packaged > in Survival Mechanisms > assimilated at the drop of a hat, > confined, refined and defined, > almost calculus > unmentioned and unintentioned > reprehensible Beauty we are > so we give our struggle Power > and Glory in speech and > a good write. > > > YIL, > Ana > > 7/14/05 > > > ;-) > I like the way you allow the messiness in... and I feel nourished for reading this today. You are Blessing Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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