Guest guest Posted June 25, 2006 Report Share Posted June 25, 2006 Nisargadatta , Pete S <pedsie5 wrote: > > > >P: And is not wise, to turn > > > nightmares into peaceful dreams? > > T: The attempt to do so exacerbates the suffering. > > P: You know that is false. a lot of that here, IMO toombaru. I am sorry to say that I don't trust your honesty. It feels to me that you are playing games... seeking to trivialize everything. If someone is depressed, > going to a doctor for a pill, or the gun shop for a bullet > will end the depression. > > T: All efforts to alleviate suffering are futile. > > P: You are putting a lot of effort in posting > here, if you really thought it was futile, you wouldn't > do it. That is the basic insincerity of your position: > you preach futility and nondoing to others, while > remaining relentless in pushing your beliefs. My thanks to Pete for saying that for me. I've been looking for a way to say that. And note his reference to " basic insincerity " ... that same impression that I refer to above. Bill > > > T: When the understanding of the source of suffering dawns....it is no > more relevant then a well made movie. > > P: Wrong again, understanding that all mental suffering comes > from identification with an entity doesn't make your wife dying as > irrelevant as a movie. But seeing that it didn't happened to " you, " > that not only your wife died, but your 'life' also dies every second, > helps the moving on, the not getting stuck in the past. > > Toomb 'then' is only used only to designate a past or future period > of time, > when comparing everything else 'than' is used. eg: " Then, I was > working, now, > I'm don't; so then, I had more money than now. Maybe I'll get a job > again, > and then, I'll have as much money as before. " > > > > T: If there is a 'you'......it suffers.....The suffering is itself a > symptom of an perceptual imperfection. > > P: Yes > > T: The desire to avoid suffering.....leads to more suffering. > > P: The desire to understand suffering leads to freedom. > > > > T: There is way to end all suffering. > > P: Yes. Tell me about it > > T: All knowledge is ignorance. > > P: Why do you post, then? > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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