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Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " <skywords wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , OConnor Patricia <gdtige@> wrote:

> >

> >

> > --- pliantheart <pliantheart@> a écrit :

> >

> > > <snip>

> > >

> > > > >

> > > > > it has never been about " listening to you " ....

> > > > >

> > > > > You go around this list calling everyone on

> > > > > what you claim to be nonsense in their posts.

> > > > > I'm calling you on what I regard as nonsense

> > > > > in what you post.

> > > > >

> > > > > You refer to " now " is a concept as if that

> > > > > dismisses it. So I ask you, how is " the most

> > > > > pristine naturalness " any different?

> > > > >

> > > > > Similarly with your " secondary conceptual

> > > overlay " .

> > > > >

> > > > > Do you see what I mean about how you seem to

> > > > > apply a double standard? Please explain to me

> > > how

> > > > > you are not applying a double standard.

> > > > >

> > > > > Bill

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Of course I am applying a double standard.

> > > >

> > > > That is what language does.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > toombaru

> > > >

> > >

> > > a cop-out

> > >

> > > why does it take me so long to simply accept

> > > that you really don't want to communicate,

> > > that you have your thing you like to do here

> > > and just leave you alone while you do it.

> > >

> > > Bill

> > >

> > > What you seek, and what you offer, is absolution.

> > > But absolution is

> > > absolutely relative. I find ease everywhere, and

> > > absolutely,

> > > relatively speaking and, yes, within time. For me

> > > that's not

> > > generally a problem.

> > >

> > > T is what happens when all modifiers, gradients,

> > > degrees and

> > > subtleties are cast out in the radical quest for

> > > absolution. It can

> > > be fun, as T so admirably exemplifies.

> > >

> > > Keep on keeping on.

> > >

> > > Love Ya

> > > ~*~

> >

> > my kid went on vacation in Hawai for ten days with her

> > best friend`s family.

> > Their Dad is pro- cloning, knows for sure that females

> > are an inferior specie,... is very eloquent, handsome

> > fellow, very articulated, yet was kindly brought back

> > to earth by that 15 years old, althought he wouldn`t

> > admit it.

> > The thing she said when she came back was that she

> > never lost her cool, that this man`s ignorance and

> > rudness never affected her. She didn`t have reactions,

> > hatred nor compassion..

> > She was just so releived to have a sanctuary to come

> > home to.

> > It is easy to not want to change the one we are

> > indifferent too.

> > Impartiality is a lot harder when it is someone you

> > love.

> >

> > ~~~

> >

> >

> > >

>

> Honestly, I wouldn't call that love. For me, love means being

> comfortable with. What most call passionate " love " is really a

> desparate desire to make another fulfill a fantasy. The passion comes

> in one's intense efforts at keeping that fantasy a seeming

> possibility, despite mounting odds against its fruition.

>

> I don't believe it's possible to be completely indifferent to anything

> within one's proximity, since we are in a constant state of feeling.

> It may seem, relatively speaking, like indifference, if one is

> constantly weighing the positive feelings against the negative ones,

> and feeling sanguine about the bottom line.

>

> Anyway, I think I know what you mean. And, if what I suggest doesn't

> seem to contribute anything to you, I'm sure you'll just ignore it.

> For me, these distinctions are important. That doesn't make them

> meaningful to anyone else, obviously.

>

> love

> ~*~

>

 

> and feeling sanguine about the bottom line.

love it

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