Guest guest Posted June 26, 2006 Report Share Posted June 26, 2006 lets say there is a man in Unameit and this man knowingly knows his Self... and clearly understands the ways of the mind... what can he do ?....really ?.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2006 Report Share Posted June 26, 2006 Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa wrote: > > lets say there is a man in Unameit > and this man knowingly knows his Self... > and clearly understands the ways of the mind... > > what can he do ?....really ?.... > he can talk... but of what use is words if the Self is not known ? he can teach... but of what use is knowledge if the Self is not known ? he can show... but of what use is a show when the Self is not known ? .................iietsa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2006 Report Share Posted June 26, 2006 Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa wrote: > > lets say there is a man in Unameit > and this man knowingly knows his Self... > and clearly understands the ways of the mind... > > what can he do ?....really ?.... continue the walk.....you mentionned before.... Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2006 Report Share Posted June 26, 2006 Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > lets say there is a man in Unameit > > and this man knowingly knows his Self... > > and clearly understands the ways of the mind... > > > > what can he do ?....really ?.... > > > continue the walk.....you mentionned before.... > > Marc > when presence is....and you are.... then you are soaring on the road of light .....iietsa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2006 Report Share Posted June 26, 2006 Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > lets say there is a man in Unameit > > > and this man knowingly knows his Self... > > > and clearly understands the ways of the mind... > > > > > > what can he do ?....really ?.... > > > > > > continue the walk.....you mentionned before.... > > > > Marc > > > when presence is....and you are.... > then you are soaring on the road of light > ....iietsa .....loosing the mind Marc > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2006 Report Share Posted June 26, 2006 Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > lets say there is a man in Unameit > > and this man knowingly knows his Self... > > and clearly understands the ways of the mind... > > > > what can he do ?....really ?.... > > > he can talk... > but of what use is words if the Self is not known ? > he can teach... > but of what use is knowledge if the Self is not known ? > he can show... > but of what use is a show when the Self is not known ? > ................iietsa > he can say there is no person... but of what use is that.....if the Self is not known... if the Self is not known... do what you will...........there is only the " blind mans dance " ....iietsa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2006 Report Share Posted June 26, 2006 Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > lets say there is a man in Unameit > > > > and this man knowingly knows his Self... > > > > and clearly understands the ways of the mind... > > > > > > > > what can he do ?....really ?.... > > > > > > > > > continue the walk.....you mentionned before.... > > > > > > Marc > > > > > when presence is....and you are.... > > then you are soaring on the road of light > > ....iietsa > > > ....loosing the mind > > Marc > > > light is one light is all there is no mind ....iietsa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2006 Report Share Posted June 26, 2006 Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > lets say there is a man in Unameit > > > > > and this man knowingly knows his Self... > > > > > and clearly understands the ways of the mind... > > > > > > > > > > what can he do ?....really ?.... > > > > > > > > > > > > continue the walk.....you mentionned before.... > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > when presence is....and you are.... > > > then you are soaring on the road of light > > > ....iietsa > > > > > > ....loosing the mind > > > > Marc > > > > > > light is one > light is all > there is no mind > ...iietsa ....spoke the light... Marc > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2006 Report Share Posted June 26, 2006 Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > lets say there is a man in Unameit > > > > > > and this man knowingly knows his Self... > > > > > > and clearly understands the ways of the mind... > > > > > > > > > > > > what can he do ?....really ?.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > continue the walk.....you mentionned before.... > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > when presence is....and you are.... > > > > then you are soaring on the road of light > > > > ....iietsa > > > > > > > > > ....loosing the mind > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > light is one > > light is all > > there is no mind > > ...iietsa > > > ...spoke the light... > > Marc Ps: words have no more meaning....in light > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2006 Report Share Posted June 26, 2006 Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa wrote: > > lets say there is a man in Unameit > and this man knowingly knows his Self... > and clearly understands the ways of the mind... > > what can he do ?....really ?.... > Have a good time with some of the sage's from this forum and cultivate RSP on the keyboard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2006 Report Share Posted June 26, 2006 Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > lets say there is a man in Unameit > > > > > > and this man knowingly knows his Self... > > > > > > and clearly understands the ways of the mind... > > > > > > > > > > > > what can he do ?....really ?.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > continue the walk.....you mentionned before.... > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > when presence is....and you are.... > > > > then you are soaring on the road of light > > > > ....iietsa > > > > > > > > > ....loosing the mind > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > light is one > > light is all > > there is no mind > > ...iietsa > > > ...spoke the light... > > Marc > > > the mind is not important it comes when it comes and goes when it goes like clouds in the sky the light is all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2006 Report Share Posted June 26, 2006 Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lets say there is a man in Unameit > > > > > > > and this man knowingly knows his Self... > > > > > > > and clearly understands the ways of the mind... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > what can he do ?....really ?.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > continue the walk.....you mentionned before.... > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > when presence is....and you are.... > > > > > then you are soaring on the road of light > > > > > ....iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > ....loosing the mind > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > light is one > > > light is all > > > there is no mind > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > ...spoke the light... > > > > Marc > > > Ps: words have no more meaning....in light > > > > > > > It is so wondeful to have two experts of light here on this list ... Werner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2006 Report Share Posted June 26, 2006 Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lets say there is a man in Unameit > > > > > > > and this man knowingly knows his Self... > > > > > > > and clearly understands the ways of the mind... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > what can he do ?....really ?.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > continue the walk.....you mentionned before.... > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > when presence is....and you are.... > > > > > then you are soaring on the road of light > > > > > ....iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > ....loosing the mind > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > light is one > > > light is all > > > there is no mind > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > ...spoke the light... > > > > Marc > > > Ps: words have no more meaning....in light > > > > > > > yes.....no word is more important... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2006 Report Share Posted June 26, 2006 Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa wrote: > > lets say there is a man in Unameit > and this man knowingly knows his Self... > and clearly understands the ways of the mind... > > what can he do ?....really ?.... > What do you want him to do... really? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2006 Report Share Posted June 26, 2006 Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lets say there is a man in Unameit > > > > > > > and this man knowingly knows his Self... > > > > > > > and clearly understands the ways of the mind... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > what can he do ?....really ?.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > continue the walk.....you mentionned before.... > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > when presence is....and you are.... > > > > > then you are soaring on the road of light > > > > > ....iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > ....loosing the mind > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > light is one > > > light is all > > > there is no mind > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > ...spoke the light... > > > > Marc > > > Ps: words have no more meaning....in light > > > > > > > ;-) Part I How do words speak to the Soul? In the beginning was the word And the word was unknown Words rested In the Unborn Unknown Buddha Mind In emptiness, An echo of timeless memory Pulling itself from a trance, As it were, And remembering itself as Singular vestiges of Love, A returning echo And Then The word was spoken Language was born Misunderstood, misshapen Misread and rehearsed in the verses Identifications with subjectively and Objectivity were born, Oblique and hence quiet forlorn Silences are spread in chasms Unsaid and oft read between the lines of Sentences strung together by Particulars and particles of beings Who hear what they want, a Highly trained selective listening process Gleaned as education and higher Learning, sometimes considered Both a modicum of thought and Subtle Conservation of energy Now we run against walls, Walls of words against words And beings who speak words that Conserve not energy and so become Destructive in nature, intent on Conserving secular thought without Thought to the thinker often forgotten In the context of barging in unannounced And walking without thinking or Remembering the sounds of a Distant thought, a distant howl, An echo Of the original thought: Who loves and who hears echoes As Sounds are gathered in the first Breath of Life And so Light is born in the memory of Sound Part II It has been said that darkness created Light Or else would remain unseen Light is the absence of darkness Or so it would seem unless The darkness created Light As a means of seeing itself So a search began A separation occurred As the unseen sought a Light And called it Illumination Enlightenment and distance Were born, an Einsteinium dilemma Occurred in closer proximity To the bending and refracting of Light when it came to placement An aggregation in the cessation Of time, balancing itself In both the absence and presence Of the Seer, Of one Light A very clear and pure channel Part III And so Sound and Light Found each other Fell in Love And created Creation In one orgasmic Bliss And so A child was born In this And words fell From the Mind of God LTA, Ana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2006 Report Share Posted June 26, 2006 Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa wrote: > > lets say there is a man in Unameit > and this man knowingly knows his Self... > and clearly understands the ways of the mind... > > what can he do ?....really ?.... > He's really doing it. But I know what you mean. Keep (not) doing it. Really. light ~*~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2006 Report Share Posted June 26, 2006 Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > lets say there is a man in Unameit > > and this man knowingly knows his Self... > > and clearly understands the ways of the mind... > > > > what can he do ?....really ?.... > > > he can talk... > but of what use is words if the Self is not known ? > he can teach... > but of what use is knowledge if the Self is not known ? > he can show... > but of what use is a show when the Self is not known ? > ................iietsa > The female orgasm is instructive. She has nowhere to go but inward, she has nothing to show but inside. Her ecstacy is complete in and of itself. She does nothing but herself. love inwords ~*~ ~*~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2006 Report Share Posted June 26, 2006 Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lets say there is a man in Unameit > > > > > > > > and this man knowingly knows his Self... > > > > > > > > and clearly understands the ways of the mind... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > what can he do ?....really ?.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > continue the walk.....you mentionned before.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > when presence is....and you are.... > > > > > > then you are soaring on the road of light > > > > > > ....iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ....loosing the mind > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > light is one > > > > light is all > > > > there is no mind > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > ...spoke the light... > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > Ps: words have no more meaning....in light > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is so wondeful to have two experts of light here on this list ... > > > > Werner > " who " is thinking of experts ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2006 Report Share Posted June 26, 2006 Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@> > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > > > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " > <iietsa@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lets say there is a man in Unameit > > > > > > > > > and this man knowingly knows his Self... > > > > > > > > > and clearly understands the ways of the mind... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > what can he do ?....really ?.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > continue the walk.....you mentionned before.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > when presence is....and you are.... > > > > > > > then you are soaring on the road of light > > > > > > > ....iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ....loosing the mind > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > light is one > > > > > light is all > > > > > there is no mind > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > ...spoke the light... > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > Ps: words have no more meaning....in light > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is so wondeful to have two experts of light here on this > list ... > > > > > > > > Werner > > > " who " is thinking of experts ? it's maybe this your mentionned " dust " ....? Marc > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2006 Report Share Posted June 26, 2006 Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > > > > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " > > <iietsa@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lets say there is a man in Unameit > > > > > > > > > > and this man knowingly knows his Self... > > > > > > > > > > and clearly understands the ways of the mind... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > what can he do ?....really ?.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > continue the walk.....you mentionned before.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > when presence is....and you are.... > > > > > > > > then you are soaring on the road of light > > > > > > > > ....iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ....loosing the mind > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > light is one > > > > > > light is all > > > > > > there is no mind > > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ...spoke the light... > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > Ps: words have no more meaning....in light > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is so wondeful to have two experts of light here on this > > list ... > > > > > > > > > > > > Werner > > > > > " who " is thinking of experts ? > > > it's maybe this your mentionned " dust " ....? > > > > Marc > iietsa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2006 Report Share Posted June 26, 2006 Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@> > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > > > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " > <iietsa@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lets say there is a man in Unameit > > > > > > > > > and this man knowingly knows his Self... > > > > > > > > > and clearly understands the ways of the mind... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > what can he do ?....really ?.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > continue the walk.....you mentionned before.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > when presence is....and you are.... > > > > > > > then you are soaring on the road of light > > > > > > > ....iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ....loosing the mind > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > light is one > > > > > light is all > > > > > there is no mind > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > ...spoke the light... > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > Ps: words have no more meaning....in light > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is so wondeful to have two experts of light here on this > list ... > > > > > > > > Werner > > > " who " is thinking of experts ? " who " is thinking of experts ? " -One toombaru is enough iets Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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