Guest guest Posted June 26, 2006 Report Share Posted June 26, 2006 Hiding behind Bill ? Why don't you call it a cheap shot ? Werner P: Because.... he is full of it..... LOVE, I mean. Beware of self-proclaimed lovers, if you scratch the thin love paint job, the rust of rancor will show. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2006 Report Share Posted June 26, 2006 Nisargadatta , Pete S <pedsie5 wrote: > > Hiding behind Bill ? > > Why don't you call it a cheap shot ? > > Werner > > P: Because.... he is full of it..... LOVE, I mean. > Beware of self-proclaimed lovers, if you scratch > the thin love paint job, the rust of rancor will show. > P's project continues. L ~*~ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2006 Report Share Posted June 26, 2006 Nisargadatta , Pete S <pedsie5 wrote: > > Hiding behind Bill ? > > Why don't you call it a cheap shot ? > > Werner > > P: Because.... he is full of it..... LOVE, I mean. > Beware of self-proclaimed lovers, if you scratch > the thin love paint job, the rust of rancor will show. > Grin ... Werner > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2006 Report Share Posted June 26, 2006 Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr wrote: > > Nisargadatta , Pete S <pedsie5@> wrote: > > > > Hiding behind Bill ? > > > > Why don't you call it a cheap shot ? > > > > Werner > > > > P: Because.... he is full of it..... LOVE, I mean. > > Beware of self-proclaimed lovers, if you scratch > > the thin love paint job, the rust of rancor will show. > > > > Grin ... > > Werner You silly wolves think I'm claiming to be different from you. But I'm not. L ~*~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2006 Report Share Posted June 26, 2006 Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " <pliantheart wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , Pete S <pedsie5@> wrote: > > > > > > Hiding behind Bill ? > > > > > > Why don't you call it a cheap shot ? > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > P: Because.... he is full of it..... LOVE, I mean. > > > Beware of self-proclaimed lovers, if you scratch > > > the thin love paint job, the rust of rancor will show. > > > > > > > Grin ... > > > > Werner > > When I read that comment about scratching the thin paint job > I thought, " Werner's gonna love this. " > Literalists are always paranoid. L ~*~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2006 Report Share Posted June 26, 2006 Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " <pliantheart wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , Pete S <pedsie5@> wrote: > > > > > > Hiding behind Bill ? > > > > > > Why don't you call it a cheap shot ? > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > P: Because.... he is full of it..... LOVE, I mean. > > > Beware of self-proclaimed lovers, if you scratch > > > the thin love paint job, the rust of rancor will show. > > > > > > > Grin ... > > > > Werner > > When I read that comment about scratching the thin paint job > I thought, " Werner's gonna love this. " > Bill, Please translate. What does the term mean 'scratching the thin paint job' ? Werner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2006 Report Share Posted June 26, 2006 Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " <skywords wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , Pete S <pedsie5@> wrote: > > > > > > Hiding behind Bill ? > > > > > > Why don't you call it a cheap shot ? > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > P: Because.... he is full of it..... LOVE, I mean. > > > Beware of self-proclaimed lovers, if you scratch > > > the thin love paint job, the rust of rancor will show. > > > > > > > Grin ... > > > > Werner > > You silly wolves think I'm claiming to be different from you. But I'm > not. > > L > ~*~ > Ok then, let's have some beer ... Werner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2006 Report Share Posted June 26, 2006 Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " <pliantheart@> > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , Pete S <pedsie5@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Hiding behind Bill ? > > > > > > > > Why don't you call it a cheap shot ? > > > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > > > P: Because.... he is full of it..... LOVE, I mean. > > > > Beware of self-proclaimed lovers, if you scratch > > > > the thin love paint job, the rust of rancor will show. > > > > > > > > > > Grin ... > > > > > > Werner > > > > When I read that comment about scratching the thin paint job > > I thought, " Werner's gonna love this. " > > > > Bill, > > Please translate. What does the term mean 'scratching the thin paint > job' ? > > Werner > It means: " I'm too paranoid to relax and trust my universe. " L ~*~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2006 Report Share Posted June 26, 2006 Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " <pliantheart@> > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , Pete S <pedsie5@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Hiding behind Bill ? > > > > > > > > Why don't you call it a cheap shot ? > > > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > > > P: Because.... he is full of it..... LOVE, I mean. > > > > Beware of self-proclaimed lovers, if you scratch > > > > the thin love paint job, the rust of rancor will show. > > > > > > > > > > Grin ... > > > > > > Werner > > > > When I read that comment about scratching the thin paint job > > I thought, " Werner's gonna love this. " > > > > Bill, > > Please translate. What does the term mean 'scratching the thin paint > job' ? > > Werner > You didn't understand what Pete meant when he wrote? > > > > Beware of self-proclaimed lovers, if you scratch > > > > the thin love paint job, the rust of rancor will show. It means when you look below the surface you see something else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2006 Report Share Posted June 26, 2006 Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " <pliantheart wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " <pliantheart@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , Pete S <pedsie5@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hiding behind Bill ? > > > > > > > > > > Why don't you call it a cheap shot ? > > > > > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > > > > > P: Because.... he is full of it..... LOVE, I mean. > > > > > Beware of self-proclaimed lovers, if you scratch > > > > > the thin love paint job, the rust of rancor will show. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Grin ... > > > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > When I read that comment about scratching the thin paint job > > > I thought, " Werner's gonna love this. " > > > > > > > Bill, > > > > Please translate. What does the term mean 'scratching the thin paint > > job' ? > > > > Werner > > > > You didn't understand what Pete meant when he wrote? > > > > > Beware of self-proclaimed lovers, if you scratch > > > > > the thin love paint job, the rust of rancor will show. > > It means when you look below the surface you see something else. > " Ha, ha! " L ~*~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2006 Report Share Posted June 26, 2006 Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " <pliantheart wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , Pete S <pedsie5@> wrote: > > > > > > Hiding behind Bill ? > > > > > > Why don't you call it a cheap shot ? > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > P: Because.... he is full of it..... LOVE, I mean. > > > Beware of self-proclaimed lovers, if you scratch > > > the thin love paint job, the rust of rancor will show. > > > > > > > Grin ... Hey, I love it too, a matter of fact that whole line is great, wished I would've thunk of it. ;-) > > > > Werner > > When I read that comment about scratching the thin paint job > I thought, " Werner's gonna love this. " > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2006 Report Share Posted June 26, 2006 Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " <pliantheart wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " <pliantheart@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , Pete S <pedsie5@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hiding behind Bill ? > > > > > > > > > > Why don't you call it a cheap shot ? > > > > > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > > > > > P: Because.... he is full of it..... LOVE, I mean. > > > > > Beware of self-proclaimed lovers, if you scratch > > > > > the thin love paint job, the rust of rancor will show. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Grin ... > > > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > When I read that comment about scratching the thin paint job > > > I thought, " Werner's gonna love this. " > > > > > > > Bill, > > > > Please translate. What does the term mean 'scratching the thin paint > > job' ? > > > > Werner > > > > You didn't understand what Pete meant when he wrote? > > > > > Beware of self-proclaimed lovers, if you scratch > > > > > the thin love paint job, the rust of rancor will show. > > It means when you look below the surface you see something else. > Yes, I have seen that, Bill, but because I am not firm in American or English common parlance I didn't understand your text. But now tell me why should I love this ? Because I am the guy who loves looking under the ladies' skirts ? Have you meant that ? Or, I love demasking people ? Maybe, yes. I started my paintig carreer as a portraitist and so I was forced to look behind the skin of my clients. All my life I tried to look behind the surface and later to find a way to express it in my paintings. Werner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2006 Report Share Posted June 26, 2006 Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " <skywords wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " <pliantheart@> > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , Pete S <pedsie5@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Hiding behind Bill ? > > > > > > > > Why don't you call it a cheap shot ? > > > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > > > P: Because.... he is full of it..... LOVE, I mean. > > > > Beware of self-proclaimed lovers, if you scratch > > > > the thin love paint job, the rust of rancor will show. > > > > > > > > > > Grin ... > > > > > > Werner > > > > When I read that comment about scratching the thin paint job > > I thought, " Werner's gonna love this. " > > > > > Literalists are always paranoid. > > L > ~*~ > What is a 'Literalist' and can you explain why they always are paranoid ? Werner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2006 Report Share Posted June 26, 2006 Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " <pliantheart@> > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@> > wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , Pete S <pedsie5@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Hiding behind Bill ? > > > > > > > > Why don't you call it a cheap shot ? > > > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > > > P: Because.... he is full of it..... LOVE, I mean. > > > > Beware of self-proclaimed lovers, if you scratch > > > > the thin love paint job, the rust of rancor will show. > > > > > > > > > > Grin ... > > > Hey, I love it too, a matter of fact that whole line is great, > wished I would've thunk of it. ;-) > > Yeah, I always thought you was kind of paranoid, too. ;-)) L ~*~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2006 Report Share Posted June 26, 2006 Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " <pliantheart@> > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " <pliantheart@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , Pete S <pedsie5@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Hiding behind Bill ? > > > > > > > > > > > > Why don't you call it a cheap shot ? > > > > > > > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > > > > > > > P: Because.... he is full of it..... LOVE, I mean. > > > > > > Beware of self-proclaimed lovers, if you scratch > > > > > > the thin love paint job, the rust of rancor will > show. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Grin ... > > > > > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > > > When I read that comment about scratching the thin paint job > > > > I thought, " Werner's gonna love this. " > > > > > > > > > > Bill, > > > > > > Please translate. What does the term mean 'scratching the thin > paint > > > job' ? > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > > You didn't understand what Pete meant when he wrote? > > > > > > Beware of self-proclaimed lovers, if you scratch > > > > > > the thin love paint job, the rust of rancor will > show. > > > > It means when you look below the surface you see something else. > > > > Yes, I have seen that, Bill, but because I am not firm in American or > English common parlance I didn't understand your text. > > But now tell me why should I love this ? Because I am the guy who > loves looking under the ladies' skirts ? Have you meant that ? Or, I > love demasking people ? Maybe, yes. I started my paintig carreer as a > portraitist and so I was forced to look behind the skin of my > clients. All my life I tried to look behind the surface and later to > find a way to express it in my paintings. > > Werner > you love demasking people, yes that is what I meant. BTW, I've done quite a bit of portraiture also. I've always sought to express the " spirit within " when I've done so, which is a looking beneath the surface. Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2006 Report Share Posted June 26, 2006 Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " <skywords@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " <pliantheart@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , Pete S <pedsie5@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hiding behind Bill ? > > > > > > > > > > Why don't you call it a cheap shot ? > > > > > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > > > > > P: Because.... he is full of it..... LOVE, I mean. > > > > > Beware of self-proclaimed lovers, if you scratch > > > > > the thin love paint job, the rust of rancor will show. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Grin ... > > > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > When I read that comment about scratching the thin paint job > > > I thought, " Werner's gonna love this. " > > > > > > > > > Literalists are always paranoid. > > > > L > > ~*~ > > > > What is a 'Literalist' and can you explain why they always are > paranoid ? > > Werner > Well, I thought you'd never ask! Literalist, in the most obvious sense, are those who believe that " God " literally created the world in seven days. They don't know that " God " is a metaphor, instead, they literally think " He " is a man with a beard somewhere. In a less obvious sense, a literalist imagines that if you say you " love, " it means you want to spend the rest of you life married to whomever you " love. " They can't understand that someone might be " in love with life, " with everyone. They assume that " love " means sacrifices of something to someone. A literalist literally believes that people have just one name, just one identity, and that a sentence can only mean one thing. They believe that there can only be one interpretation for any statement. Literalists are basically punitive and guilt mongering. They believe in right and wrong and that the wrong should be punished and the right rewarded. They're fundamentalists. They're children. Very easily angered and generally unforgiving. They're very cautious, and assume that people are going to deceive them in some way or other. Literalists are paranoid because, since they believe in right and wrong, they're always afraid of doing something wrong and always afraid that they will either be punished for being wrong, or that they will have to punish someone else for being wrong (which is always a real drag!). They are very attached to their own and others' identity, because it is precisely identity that is either attacked or rewarded for being either wrong or right. Know what I mean? Love Ya for asking! ~*~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2006 Report Share Posted June 26, 2006 Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " <pliantheart wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " <pliantheart@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > You didn't understand what Pete meant when he wrote? > > > > > > > Beware of self-proclaimed lovers, if you scratch > > > > > > > the thin love paint job, the rust of rancor will > > show. > > > > > > It means when you look below the surface you see something else. > > > > > > > Yes, I have seen that, Bill, but because I am not firm in American or > > English common parlance I didn't understand your text. > > > > But now tell me why should I love this ? Because I am the guy who > > loves looking under the ladies' skirts ? Have you meant that ? Or, I > > love demasking people ? Maybe, yes. I started my paintig carreer as a > > portraitist and so I was forced to look behind the skin of my > > clients. All my life I tried to look behind the surface and later to > > find a way to express it in my paintings. > > > > Werner > > > > you love demasking people, yes that is > what I meant. > > BTW, I've done quite a bit of portraiture > also. I've always sought to express the > " spirit within " when I've done so, which > is a looking beneath the surface. > > > Bill > Interesting, Bill, Then you also must have learned that the tendency to pathos ia a serious barrier to look behind the surface ? Werner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2006 Report Share Posted June 26, 2006 Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " <pliantheart wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " <pliantheart@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " <pliantheart@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , Pete S <pedsie5@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hiding behind Bill ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why don't you call it a cheap shot ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > > > > > > > > > P: Because.... he is full of it..... LOVE, I mean. > > > > > > > Beware of self-proclaimed lovers, if you scratch > > > > > > > the thin love paint job, the rust of rancor will > > show. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Grin ... > > > > > > > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > > > > > When I read that comment about scratching the thin paint job > > > > > I thought, " Werner's gonna love this. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bill, > > > > > > > > Please translate. What does the term mean 'scratching the thin > > paint > > > > job' ? > > > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > > > > > You didn't understand what Pete meant when he wrote? > > > > > > > Beware of self-proclaimed lovers, if you scratch > > > > > > > the thin love paint job, the rust of rancor will > > show. > > > > > > It means when you look below the surface you see something else. > > > > > > > Yes, I have seen that, Bill, but because I am not firm in American or > > English common parlance I didn't understand your text. > > > > But now tell me why should I love this ? Because I am the guy who > > loves looking under the ladies' skirts ? Have you meant that ? Or, I > > love demasking people ? Maybe, yes. I started my paintig carreer as a > > portraitist and so I was forced to look behind the skin of my > > clients. All my life I tried to look behind the surface and later to > > find a way to express it in my paintings. > > > > Werner > > > > you love demasking people, yes that is > what I meant. > > BTW, I've done quite a bit of portraiture > also. I've always sought to express the > " spirit within " when I've done so, which > is a looking beneath the surface. > > > Bill > People are the mask. toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2006 Report Share Posted June 26, 2006 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " <pliantheart@> > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " <pliantheart@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " <pliantheart@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , Pete S <pedsie5@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hiding behind Bill ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why don't you call it a cheap shot ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > P: Because.... he is full of it..... LOVE, I mean. > > > > > > > > Beware of self-proclaimed lovers, if you scratch > > > > > > > > the thin love paint job, the rust of rancor will > > > show. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Grin ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > > > > > > > When I read that comment about scratching the thin paint job > > > > > > I thought, " Werner's gonna love this. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bill, > > > > > > > > > > Please translate. What does the term mean 'scratching the thin > > > paint > > > > > job' ? > > > > > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > > > > > > > > You didn't understand what Pete meant when he wrote? > > > > > > > > Beware of self-proclaimed lovers, if you scratch > > > > > > > > the thin love paint job, the rust of rancor will > > > show. > > > > > > > > It means when you look below the surface you see something else. > > > > > > > > > > Yes, I have seen that, Bill, but because I am not firm in American or > > > English common parlance I didn't understand your text. > > > > > > But now tell me why should I love this ? Because I am the guy who > > > loves looking under the ladies' skirts ? Have you meant that ? Or, I > > > love demasking people ? Maybe, yes. I started my paintig carreer as a > > > portraitist and so I was forced to look behind the skin of my > > > clients. All my life I tried to look behind the surface and later to > > > find a way to express it in my paintings. > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > > you love demasking people, yes that is > > what I meant. > > > > BTW, I've done quite a bit of portraiture > > also. I've always sought to express the > > " spirit within " when I've done so, which > > is a looking beneath the surface. > > > > > > Bill > > > > > > > People are the mask. > > > > toombaru > Toomb, If you realize the suffering and desperartion behind the smiling face, then what is here 'people' ? The suffering, or the smile, or both ? Werner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2006 Report Share Posted June 26, 2006 Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " <pliantheart@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " > <pliantheart@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " > <pliantheart@> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " > <wwoehr@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , Pete S <pedsie5@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hiding behind Bill ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why don't you call it a cheap shot ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > P: Because.... he is full of it..... LOVE, I mean. > > > > > > > > > Beware of self-proclaimed lovers, if you scratch > > > > > > > > > the thin love paint job, the rust of rancor > will > > > > show. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Grin ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When I read that comment about scratching the thin paint > job > > > > > > > I thought, " Werner's gonna love this. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bill, > > > > > > > > > > > > Please translate. What does the term mean 'scratching the > thin > > > > paint > > > > > > job' ? > > > > > > > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You didn't understand what Pete meant when he wrote? > > > > > > > > > Beware of self-proclaimed lovers, if you scratch > > > > > > > > > the thin love paint job, the rust of rancor > will > > > > show. > > > > > > > > > > It means when you look below the surface you see something > else. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, I have seen that, Bill, but because I am not firm in > American or > > > > English common parlance I didn't understand your text. > > > > > > > > But now tell me why should I love this ? Because I am the guy > who > > > > loves looking under the ladies' skirts ? Have you meant that ? > Or, I > > > > love demasking people ? Maybe, yes. I started my paintig > carreer as a > > > > portraitist and so I was forced to look behind the skin of my > > > > clients. All my life I tried to look behind the surface and > later to > > > > find a way to express it in my paintings. > > > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > > > > > you love demasking people, yes that is > > > what I meant. > > > > > > BTW, I've done quite a bit of portraiture > > > also. I've always sought to express the > > > " spirit within " when I've done so, which > > > is a looking beneath the surface. > > > > > > > > > Bill > > > > > > > > > > > > > People are the mask. > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > Toomb, > If you realize the suffering and desperartion behind the smiling > face, then what is here 'people' ? The suffering, or the smile, or > both ? > > Werner > Identification is suffering. toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2006 Report Share Posted June 26, 2006 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " <pliantheart@> > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " <pliantheart@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " <pliantheart@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , Pete S <pedsie5@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hiding behind Bill ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why don't you call it a cheap shot ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > P: Because.... he is full of it..... LOVE, I mean. > > > > > > > > Beware of self-proclaimed lovers, if you scratch > > > > > > > > the thin love paint job, the rust of rancor will > > > show. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Grin ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > > > > > > > When I read that comment about scratching the thin paint job > > > > > > I thought, " Werner's gonna love this. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bill, > > > > > > > > > > Please translate. What does the term mean 'scratching the thin > > > paint > > > > > job' ? > > > > > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > > > > > > > > You didn't understand what Pete meant when he wrote? > > > > > > > > Beware of self-proclaimed lovers, if you scratch > > > > > > > > the thin love paint job, the rust of rancor will > > > show. > > > > > > > > It means when you look below the surface you see something else. > > > > > > > > > > Yes, I have seen that, Bill, but because I am not firm in American or > > > English common parlance I didn't understand your text. > > > > > > But now tell me why should I love this ? Because I am the guy who > > > loves looking under the ladies' skirts ? Have you meant that ? Or, I > > > love demasking people ? Maybe, yes. I started my paintig carreer as a > > > portraitist and so I was forced to look behind the skin of my > > > clients. All my life I tried to look behind the surface and later to > > > find a way to express it in my paintings. > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > > you love demasking people, yes that is > > what I meant. > > > > BTW, I've done quite a bit of portraiture > > also. I've always sought to express the > > " spirit within " when I've done so, which > > is a looking beneath the surface. > > > > > > Bill > > > > > > > People are the mask. > > > > toombaru ...and the townfolk gathered 'round, as the stranger rode out of the settlement into the setting sun in the West, and said one to the other... " Who was that masked man?...was that Billy..or Oliver...or Oscar...or the Lone Ranger just visiting toomb(aru)stone Town? " . ....and ther indeed is an answer beTwain the two or three options. ........bobaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 27, 2006 Report Share Posted June 27, 2006 Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " <pliantheart@> > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " <pliantheart@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > You didn't understand what Pete meant when he wrote? > > > > > > > > Beware of self-proclaimed lovers, if you scratch > > > > > > > > the thin love paint job, the rust of rancor will > > > show. > > > > > > > > It means when you look below the surface you see something else. > > > > > > > > > > Yes, I have seen that, Bill, but because I am not firm in > American or > > > English common parlance I didn't understand your text. > > > > > > But now tell me why should I love this ? Because I am the guy who > > > loves looking under the ladies' skirts ? Have you meant that ? > Or, I > > > love demasking people ? Maybe, yes. I started my paintig carreer > as a > > > portraitist and so I was forced to look behind the skin of my > > > clients. All my life I tried to look behind the surface and later > to > > > find a way to express it in my paintings. > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > > you love demasking people, yes that is > > what I meant. > > > > BTW, I've done quite a bit of portraiture > > also. I've always sought to express the > > " spirit within " when I've done so, which > > is a looking beneath the surface. > > > > > > Bill > > > > Interesting, Bill, > > Then you also must have learned that the tendency to pathos ia a > serious barrier to look behind the surface ? > > Werner > to me what I saw " within " the subject was always unnameable... isn't pathos based on names? Here is an example portrait: http://art-nova.com/Art_Images/LifeDrawings/MED/InmaPortrait.jpg/ I don't think you will see pathos there. Looking back at this I see a lot of deep unhappiness in the subject that I wasn't conscious of when I did the piece. I don't think. I just connect and let the artwork happen. Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 27, 2006 Report Share Posted June 27, 2006 Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " <skywords wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " <pliantheart@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , Pete S <pedsie5@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hiding behind Bill ? > > > > > > > > > > Why don't you call it a cheap shot ? > > > > > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > > > > > P: Because.... he is full of it..... LOVE, I mean. > > > > > Beware of self-proclaimed lovers, if you scratch > > > > > the thin love paint job, the rust of rancor will show. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Grin ... > > > > > > Hey, I love it too, a matter of fact that whole line is great, > > wished I would've thunk of it. ;-) > > > > > > Yeah, I always thought you was kind of paranoid, too. > > ;-)) > > L > ~*~ > har har har, ya can't kid a kidder, eh? er para a noid??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 27, 2006 Report Share Posted June 27, 2006 Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " <skywords@> > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana@> > wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " > <pliantheart@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , Pete S <pedsie5@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Hiding behind Bill ? > > > > > > > > > > > > Why don't you call it a cheap shot ? > > > > > > > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > > > > > > > P: Because.... he is full of it..... LOVE, I mean. > > > > > > Beware of self-proclaimed lovers, if you scratch > > > > > > the thin love paint job, the rust of rancor will > show. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Grin ... > > > > > > > > > Hey, I love it too, a matter of fact that whole line is great, > > > wished I would've thunk of it. ;-) > > > > > > > > > > Yeah, I always thought you was kind of paranoid, too. > > > > ;-)) > > > > L > > ~*~ > > > > > har har har, ya can't kid a kidder, eh? > > er > > para a noid??? > If you want a guaranteed response, calling names always seems to work around here. What a drag. Be nice and get ignored. Fear of intimacy, lack of trust. Literalismus seriosus: paranoia. Or whatever. Just drop it. ( " Oh, yeah, can't stand behind your assertions, what a wimp! " Again: literalismus seriosus: paranoia.) ;-(( ;-)) It's all just a play! L ~*~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 27, 2006 Report Share Posted June 27, 2006 Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " <pliantheart wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " <pliantheart@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " <pliantheart@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You didn't understand what Pete meant when he wrote? > > > > > > > > > Beware of self-proclaimed lovers, if you scratch > > > > > > > > > the thin love paint job, the rust of rancor will > > > > show. > > > > > > > > > > It means when you look below the surface you see something else. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, I have seen that, Bill, but because I am not firm in > > American or > > > > English common parlance I didn't understand your text. > > > > > > > > But now tell me why should I love this ? Because I am the guy who > > > > loves looking under the ladies' skirts ? Have you meant that ? > > Or, I > > > > love demasking people ? Maybe, yes. I started my paintig carreer > > as a > > > > portraitist and so I was forced to look behind the skin of my > > > > clients. All my life I tried to look behind the surface and later > > to > > > > find a way to express it in my paintings. > > > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > > > > > you love demasking people, yes that is > > > what I meant. > > > > > > BTW, I've done quite a bit of portraiture > > > also. I've always sought to express the > > > " spirit within " when I've done so, which > > > is a looking beneath the surface. > > > > > > > > > Bill > > > > > > > Interesting, Bill, > > > > Then you also must have learned that the tendency to pathos ia a > > serious barrier to look behind the surface ? > > > > Werner > > > > to me what I saw " within " the subject was always unnameable... > > isn't pathos based on names? > > Here is an example portrait: > http://art-nova.com/Art_Images/LifeDrawings/MED/InmaPortrait.jpg/ > > I don't think you will see pathos there. > > Looking back at this I see a lot of deep unhappiness > in the subject that I wasn't conscious of when I did > the piece. I don't think. I just connect and let the > artwork happen. > > > Bill > Hey Bill, I could embrace you and tap your shoulders and tell you " Well done, my fríend " . That portrait is great and indeed no pathos to see. I love it. I too used for a longer time those brown chalk pens to draw sketches with. They are good tools. Thanks, Bill ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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