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--- pliantheart <pliantheart a écrit :

 

> Nisargadatta , OConnor

> Patricia <gdtige wrote:

> >

> >

> >

> > you can only understand what you are not.

> > For the rest,< youcanonlybe>

> > when you find I am, what else can you say, why

> would

> > words matter?

> > There are no right word that can describe it, you

> can

> > only try to know who is talking to you, then

> seeing if

> > their choice of word is in the same line than

> yours,

> > or not.

> That's exactly what my question about " I am " is all

> about. " I am " seems not the description for me at

> all.

 

> So when someone else does use " I am " to describe,

> does that mean they are describing something quite

> different, or does it mean that they actually are

> describing the same thing (more or less), but that

> the term " I am " does resonate for them even though

> for me it doesn't.

>

> > When you find I am, it doesn`t matter how you call

> it.

> > You`ll touch their beingness because there is

> nothing

> > else to be.

> > There is only disappearance of the seeker.

> Some use the term 'This' for that.

> At this moment I'm inclined to say: " alivenenss

> everywhere "

>

> For those who incline to say " I am " ...

> I wonder if there is a " sense of I " ...

> even with the disappearance of the seeker.

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so, the seeker gone, there could still be a sense of

I?

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>.

>

> If not, I don't understand calling it " I am " .

>

> If so, then they are describing something quite

> different from what I describe when I say

> " aliveness everywhere " .

>

> For one who would say " I am " I wonder if

> simply " beingness " would work just as well.

> Does there really have to be an " I " in it?

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I

understand your reluctance to the word I. And it is

wise to be very careful.

But I find now that <I am> is not a all personnal, it

is yet so appropriate because it describes something

oh...so very close to home, nearer than hands and feet

and irrefutable.....Patricia

 

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>

> I want to understand this because I seem to

> constantly

> be knocking heads with those who say " I am " . Is it

> just different words, as you suggest, or something

> different being described?

>

> Bill

>

>

> > Words don`t matter so much, nor definitions

> although

> > they have their place for the time

> being...maybe...i

> > don`t know..

> >

> > Yours...........~~~

> >

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