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Nisargadatta , OConnor Patricia <gdtige wrote:

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> --- pliantheart <pliantheart a écrit :

>

> > Nisargadatta , OConnor

> > Patricia <gdtige@> wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > you can only understand what you are not.

> > > For the rest,< youcanonlybe>

> > > when you find I am, what else can you say, why

> > would

> > > words matter?

> > > There are no right word that can describe it, you

> > can

> > > only try to know who is talking to you, then

> > seeing if

> > > their choice of word is in the same line than

> > yours,

> > > or not.

> > That's exactly what my question about " I am " is all

> > about. " I am " seems not the description for me at

> > all.

>

> > So when someone else does use " I am " to describe,

> > does that mean they are describing something quite

> > different, or does it mean that they actually are

> > describing the same thing (more or less), but that

> > the term " I am " does resonate for them even though

> > for me it doesn't.

> >

> > > When you find I am, it doesn`t matter how you call

> > it.

> > > You`ll touch their beingness because there is

> > nothing

> > > else to be.

> > > There is only disappearance of the seeker.

> > Some use the term 'This' for that.

> > At this moment I'm inclined to say: " alivenenss

> > everywhere "

> >

> > For those who incline to say " I am " ...

> > I wonder if there is a " sense of I " ...

> > even with the disappearance of the seeker.

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

> so, the seeker gone, there could still be a sense of

> I?

 

So you are saying that for you no sense of I...

that is what I am interested to know.

 

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>.

> >

> > If not, I don't understand calling it " I am " .

> >

> > If so, then they are describing something quite

> > different from what I describe when I say

> > " aliveness everywhere " .

> >

> > For one who would say " I am " I wonder if

> > simply " beingness " would work just as well.

> > Does there really have to be an " I " in it?

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I

> understand your reluctance to the word I. And it is

> wise to be very careful.

> But I find now that <I am> is not a all personnal, it

> is yet so appropriate because it describes something

> oh...so very close to home, nearer than hands and feet

> and irrefutable.....Patricia

 

So no " sense of I " yet the term " I am " does speak for

you. OK. Hard for me to understand. But OK.

 

Thank you for going into this with me.

 

Bill

 

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