Guest guest Posted June 27, 2006 Report Share Posted June 27, 2006 Advaita Nonduality Yoga Nisargadatta Taking a stab at defining " I am " ! For me, at this point, who I really really really am is best pointed at by using the words " amness " , or " isness " , no *I* or *me* involved at all. This " am-ness " doesn't depend on " appearances " or " perceptions " or " sensations " to *be*. There are no distinctions or qualities at all. It is *prior* to formulating words, or concepts, or talking to " oneself " , or the body talking to " itself " . *I am* is NOT a statement made by thought, nor is *it* a thought. To say " I am " is *secondary* to *being*. It comes " after the fact " of *being*. It is an " effect " so to speak, a derivative. The " I am " being referred to here is prior to both *is* and *is not* yet at the same time encompasses " both " by being noneother than both yet neither as well. It is " no-thingness " , objectless, qualitieslessness out of which, to which, and as a modification of which all so-called " things " , objects, perceptions, sensations, qualities, experiences occur in and as eternal ever bubbling nowness. Words...they conceal as much as they reveal. Go figure! :-) Michael Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 27, 2006 Report Share Posted June 27, 2006 > Nisargadatta , " Adamson " <adamson wrote: > > Advaita Nonduality Yoga Nisargadatta > Taking a stab at defining " I am " ! > > For me, at this point, who I really really really am is best > pointed at by using the words " amness " , or " isness " , no *I* > or *me* involved at all. This " am-ness " doesn't depend on > " appearances " or " perceptions " or " sensations " to *be*. There > are no distinctions or qualities at all. It is *prior* to > formulating words, or concepts, or talking to " oneself " , or > the body talking to " itself " . yes... Nisargadatta: " When pure awareness is attained, no need exists any more, not even for 'I am', which is but a useful pointer, a direction-indicator towards the Absolute. The awareness 'I am' then easily ceases. What prevails is that which cannot be described, that which is beyond words. It is this 'state' which is most real, a state of pure potentiality, which is prior to everything. The 'I am' and the universe are mere reflections of it. " " I am " has a use as a pointer, as N indicates above. To describe what is " beyond " ... there are so many descriptions. Perhaps some will still use " I am " for what is beyond " I am " , I don't know. That was my original question. But as he says, it cannot be described. In any case, it is prior to formulating words, as you say. > Words...they conceal as much as they reveal. Go figure! :-) Yes... so it seems! Bill > *I am* is NOT a statement made by thought, nor is *it* a > thought. To say " I am " is *secondary* to *being*. It comes > " after the fact " of *being*. It is an " effect " so to speak, a > derivative. The " I am " being referred to here is prior to > both *is* and *is not* yet at the same time encompasses > " both " by being noneother than both yet neither as well. It > is " no-thingness " , objectless, qualitieslessness out of > which, to which, and as a modification of which all so-called > " things " , objects, perceptions, sensations, qualities, > experiences occur in and as eternal ever bubbling nowness. > > Words...they conceal as much as they reveal. Go figure! :-) > > Michael Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 27, 2006 Report Share Posted June 27, 2006 <snip> > > Marc > > Ps: " I Am " ....i imagine > is of no worlds at all..... > of no words.... > of no identification with.... > of no plans and projects.... > of no destinations.... > of no time and space.... > > but of calmness and peace.....and mostly.... > of happiness > > means....being > Thank you for this Marc. Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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