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--- pliantheart <pliantheart a écrit :

 

> Nisargadatta , OConnor

> Patricia <gdtige wrote:

> >

> >

> > --- pliantheart <pliantheart a écrit :

> >

> > > Nisargadatta , OConnor

> > > Patricia <gdtige@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > you can only understand what you are not.

> > > > For the rest,< youcanonlybe>

> > > > when you find I am, what else can you say, why

> > > would

> > > > words matter?

> > > > There are no right word that can describe it,

> you

> > > can

> > > > only try to know who is talking to you, then

> > > seeing if

> > > > their choice of word is in the same line than

> > > yours,

> > > > or not.

> > > That's exactly what my question about " I am " is

> all

> > > about. " I am " seems not the description for me

> at

> > > all.

> >

> > > So when someone else does use " I am " to

> describe,

> > > does that mean they are describing something

> quite

> > > different, or does it mean that they actually

> are

> > > describing the same thing (more or less), but

> that

> > > the term " I am " does resonate for them even

> though

> > > for me it doesn't.

> > >

> > > > When you find I am, it doesn`t matter how you

> call

> > > it.

> > > > You`ll touch their beingness because there is

> > > nothing

> > > > else to be.

> > > > There is only disappearance of the seeker.

> > > Some use the term 'This' for that.

> > > At this moment I'm inclined to say: " alivenenss

> > > everywhere "

> > >

> > > For those who incline to say " I am " ...

> > > I wonder if there is a " sense of I " ...

> > > even with the disappearance of the seeker.

> >

>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

> > so, the seeker gone, there could still be a sense

> of

> > I?

>

> So you are saying that for you no sense of I...

> that is what I am interested to know.

>

> >

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>.

> > >

> > > If not, I don't understand calling it " I am " .

> > >

> > > If so, then they are describing something quite

> > > different from what I describe when I say

> > > " aliveness everywhere " .

> > >

> > > For one who would say " I am " I wonder if

> > > simply " beingness " would work just as well.

> > > Does there really have to be an " I " in it?

> >

>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I

> > understand your reluctance to the word I. And it

> is

> > wise to be very careful.

> > But I find now that <I am> is not a all personnal,

> it

> > is yet so appropriate because it describes

> something

> > oh...so very close to home, nearer than hands and

> feet

> > and irrefutable.....Patricia

>

> So no " sense of I " yet the term " I am " does speak

> for

> you. OK. Hard for me to understand. But OK.

>

> Thank you for going into this with me.

>

> Bill

Bill, the sense of Aliveness everywhere with no center

is made of atoms,

atoms made of awareness,

and they can only be called <I am >

because their awareness is that of the All.

 

Patricia

>

> >

>

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> >

> >

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