Guest guest Posted June 30, 2006 Report Share Posted June 30, 2006 the world is playground for the little ego-minds....restless.... the world is a fiction of mind for the non-moving Self.... Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 30, 2006 Report Share Posted June 30, 2006 Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33 wrote: > > > > the world is playground for the little ego-minds....restless.... > > the world is a fiction of mind for the non-moving Self.... > > Marc > so for the non-moving Self the " world " does not even exist, the " world " is not even an " it " that is " out there " in any sense whatsoever. indeed, for the non-moving Self there is no " out there " . nor an " in here " . for the non-moving Self there is nothing to take up nor anything to put down. Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 30, 2006 Report Share Posted June 30, 2006 Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " <pliantheart wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > the world is playground for the little ego-minds....restless.... > > > > the world is a fiction of mind for the non-moving Self.... > > > > Marc > > > > so for the non-moving Self the " world " does not > even exist, the " world " is not even an " it " that > is " out there " in any sense whatsoever. for the non-moving Self....everything concerning the perception of a world ...is related to mind.... to an ego-mind....if this entity percieve " others " too....playing around why should the world not exist for the non-moving Self...? same kind of question would be: why should the dream that one have during sleep...not exist?.. > > indeed, for the non-moving Self there is no > " out there " . > > nor an " in here " . yes..... > > for the non-moving Self > there is nothing to take up > nor anything to put down. yes.... (there is no moving Self existing....means, real Self ...just Is) > > Bill > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 30, 2006 Report Share Posted June 30, 2006 Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " <pliantheart@> > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > the world is playground for the little ego-minds....restless.... > > > > > > the world is a fiction of mind for the non-moving Self.... > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > so for the non-moving Self the " world " does not > > even exist, the " world " is not even an " it " that > > is " out there " in any sense whatsoever. > > for the non-moving Self....everything concerning the perception of a > world ...is related to mind.... > to an ego-mind....if this entity percieve " others " too....playing > around maybe your notion of non-moving Self is different from mine! i.e. I say: for non-moving Self mind is not real, nor is ego-mind. > why should the world not exist for the non-moving Self...? > same kind of question would be: > why should the dream that one have during sleep...not exist?.. Do you agree that, " There is no real existence to the visible world " ? In the same way there is no real existence to any dream. Is a dream in any way well-defined? Does it have boundaries etc.? Such things are the case to the mind only insomuch as they are held in the mind. The non-moving Self does not hold anything whatsoever. Bill > > indeed, for the non-moving Self there is no > > " out there " . > > > > nor an " in here " . > > yes..... > > > > for the non-moving Self > > there is nothing to take up > > nor anything to put down. > > yes.... > > (there is no moving Self existing....means, real Self ...just Is) > > > > Bill > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 30, 2006 Report Share Posted June 30, 2006 Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " <pliantheart wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " <pliantheart@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the world is playground for the little ego- minds....restless.... > > > > > > > > the world is a fiction of mind for the non-moving Self.... > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > so for the non-moving Self the " world " does not > > > even exist, the " world " is not even an " it " that > > > is " out there " in any sense whatsoever. > > > > for the non-moving Self....everything concerning the perception of > a > > world ...is related to mind.... > > to an ego-mind....if this entity percieve " others " too....playing > > around > > maybe your notion of non-moving Self is different from mine! > > i.e. I say: for non-moving Self mind is not real, > nor is ego-mind. agree with " for non-moving Self mind is not real " why not...ok... it doesn't make much difference .... but i don't agree that some great ego-mind " imagine " to be " unreal " .....and therefore lead a destructive/miserable life....until death of.....the illusion....to be real even if this my conclusion is " unreal " too.....and is part of a non- existing seperated illusion to be this body-mind-intellect.... ....it's part of the wonderful play.....in this world.... which is...after all...only a playground for mind/dream/unreality > > > why should the world not exist for the non-moving Self...? > > same kind of question would be: > > why should the dream that one have during sleep...not exist?.. > > Do you agree that, " There is no real existence to the visible world " ? yes > > In the same way there is no real existence to any dream. > > Is a dream in any way well-defined? Does it have boundaries etc.? > > Such things are the case to the mind only insomuch as they are > held in the mind. > > The non-moving Self does not hold anything whatsoever. ok...no problem with this words > > Bill > > > > indeed, for the non-moving Self there is no > > > " out there " . > > > > > > nor an " in here " . > > > > yes..... > > > > > > for the non-moving Self > > > there is nothing to take up > > > nor anything to put down. > > > > yes.... > > > > (there is no moving Self existing....means, real Self ...just Is) > > > > > > Bill > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 30, 2006 Report Share Posted June 30, 2006 Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " <pliantheart@> > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " <pliantheart@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the world is playground for the little ego- > minds....restless.... > > > > > > > > > > the world is a fiction of mind for the non-moving Self.... > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > so for the non-moving Self the " world " does not > > > > even exist, the " world " is not even an " it " that > > > > is " out there " in any sense whatsoever. > > > > > > for the non-moving Self....everything concerning the perception > of > > a > > > world ...is related to mind.... > > > to an ego-mind....if this entity percieve " others " too....playing > > > around > > > > maybe your notion of non-moving Self is different from mine! > > > > i.e. I say: for non-moving Self mind is not real, > > nor is ego-mind. > > agree with " for non-moving Self mind is not real " > why not...ok... > it doesn't make much difference .... > > but i don't agree that some great ego-mind " imagine " to > be " unreal " .....and therefore lead a destructive/miserable > life....until death of.....the illusion....to be real > > even if this my conclusion is " unreal " too.....and is part of a non- > existing seperated illusion to be this body-mind-intellect.... that's where you get caught then... and move over, cuz I do too... oh those absurd, rediculous ego-minds! Bill > ...it's part of the wonderful play.....in this world.... > which is...after all...only a playground for mind/dream/unreality > > > > > why should the world not exist for the non-moving Self...? > > > same kind of question would be: > > > why should the dream that one have during sleep...not exist?.. > > > > Do you agree that, " There is no real existence to the visible > world " ? > > yes > > > > In the same way there is no real existence to any dream. > > > > Is a dream in any way well-defined? Does it have boundaries etc.? > > > > Such things are the case to the mind only insomuch as they are > > held in the mind. > > > > The non-moving Self does not hold anything whatsoever. > > ok...no problem with this words > > > > Bill > > > > > > indeed, for the non-moving Self there is no > > > > " out there " . > > > > > > > > nor an " in here " . > > > > > > yes..... > > > > > > > > for the non-moving Self > > > > there is nothing to take up > > > > nor anything to put down. > > > > > > yes.... > > > > > > (there is no moving Self existing....means, real Self ...just Is) > > > > > > > > Bill > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 30, 2006 Report Share Posted June 30, 2006 Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " <pliantheart wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " <pliantheart@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " > <pliantheart@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the world is playground for the little ego- > > minds....restless.... > > > > > > > > > > > > the world is a fiction of mind for the non-moving Self.... > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > so for the non-moving Self the " world " does not > > > > > even exist, the " world " is not even an " it " that > > > > > is " out there " in any sense whatsoever. > > > > > > > > for the non-moving Self....everything concerning the perception > > of > > > a > > > > world ...is related to mind.... > > > > to an ego-mind....if this entity percieve " others " > too....playing > > > > around > > > > > > maybe your notion of non-moving Self is different from mine! > > > > > > i.e. I say: for non-moving Self mind is not real, > > > nor is ego-mind. > > > > agree with " for non-moving Self mind is not real " > > why not...ok... > > it doesn't make much difference .... > > > > but i don't agree that some great ego-mind " imagine " to > > be " unreal " .....and therefore lead a destructive/miserable > > life....until death of.....the illusion....to be real > > > > even if this my conclusion is " unreal " too.....and is part of a non- > > existing seperated illusion to be this body-mind-intellect.... > > that's where you get caught then... > and move over, cuz I do too... > oh those absurd, rediculous ego-minds! > > Bill .... true....why one should care about fantasies.....of " whoever " .... why caring about words in here.... why caring about meaning of words.... why writing endless messages.....and explanations.....and " ideas " ....and....and.... why trying to teach " whoever " ...that all this...is unreal.... why seeing and searching for darkness...when there Is light..... it's absurd....and ridiculous.... isn't it? Marc > > > ...it's part of the wonderful play.....in this world.... > > which is...after all...only a playground for mind/dream/unreality > > > > > > > why should the world not exist for the non-moving Self...? > > > > same kind of question would be: > > > > why should the dream that one have during sleep...not exist?.. > > > > > > Do you agree that, " There is no real existence to the visible > > world " ? > > > > yes > > > > > > In the same way there is no real existence to any dream. > > > > > > Is a dream in any way well-defined? Does it have boundaries etc.? > > > > > > Such things are the case to the mind only insomuch as they are > > > held in the mind. > > > > > > The non-moving Self does not hold anything whatsoever. > > > > ok...no problem with this words > > > > > > Bill > > > > > > > > indeed, for the non-moving Self there is no > > > > > " out there " . > > > > > > > > > > nor an " in here " . > > > > > > > > yes..... > > > > > > > > > > for the non-moving Self > > > > > there is nothing to take up > > > > > nor anything to put down. > > > > > > > > yes.... > > > > > > > > (there is no moving Self existing....means, real Self ...just > Is) > > > > > > > > > > Bill > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 30, 2006 Report Share Posted June 30, 2006 Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " <pliantheart@> > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " <pliantheart@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " > > <pliantheart@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the world is playground for the little ego- > > > minds....restless.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the world is a fiction of mind for the non-moving Self.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > so for the non-moving Self the " world " does not > > > > > > even exist, the " world " is not even an " it " that > > > > > > is " out there " in any sense whatsoever. > > > > > > > > > > for the non-moving Self....everything concerning the > perception > > > of > > > > a > > > > > world ...is related to mind.... > > > > > to an ego-mind....if this entity percieve " others " > > too....playing > > > > > around > > > > > > > > maybe your notion of non-moving Self is different from mine! > > > > > > > > i.e. I say: for non-moving Self mind is not real, > > > > nor is ego-mind. > > > > > > agree with " for non-moving Self mind is not real " > > > why not...ok... > > > it doesn't make much difference .... > > > > > > but i don't agree that some great ego-mind " imagine " to > > > be " unreal " .....and therefore lead a destructive/miserable > > > life....until death of.....the illusion....to be real > > > > > > even if this my conclusion is " unreal " too.....and is part of a > non- > > > existing seperated illusion to be this body-mind-intellect.... > > > > that's where you get caught then... > > and move over, cuz I do too... > > oh those absurd, rediculous ego-minds! > > > > Bill > > > ... > > true....why one should care about fantasies.....of " whoever " .... > why caring about words in here.... > why caring about meaning of words.... > why writing endless messages.....and > explanations.....and " ideas " ....and....and.... > why trying to teach " whoever " ...that all this...is unreal.... > why seeing and searching for darkness...when there Is light..... > > it's absurd....and ridiculous.... > > isn't it? > > Marc > No more ridiculous then the pair of bluejays that build a nest every year in my back yard. toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 30, 2006 Report Share Posted June 30, 2006 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " <pliantheart@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " <pliantheart@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " > > > <pliantheart@> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > > > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the world is playground for the little ego- > > > > minds....restless.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the world is a fiction of mind for the non-moving Self.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > so for the non-moving Self the " world " does not > > > > > > > even exist, the " world " is not even an " it " that > > > > > > > is " out there " in any sense whatsoever. > > > > > > > > > > > > for the non-moving Self....everything concerning the > > perception > > > > of > > > > > a > > > > > > world ...is related to mind.... > > > > > > to an ego-mind....if this entity percieve " others " > > > too....playing > > > > > > around > > > > > > > > > > maybe your notion of non-moving Self is different from mine! > > > > > > > > > > i.e. I say: for non-moving Self mind is not real, > > > > > nor is ego-mind. > > > > > > > > agree with " for non-moving Self mind is not real " > > > > why not...ok... > > > > it doesn't make much difference .... > > > > > > > > but i don't agree that some great ego-mind " imagine " to > > > > be " unreal " .....and therefore lead a destructive/miserable > > > > life....until death of.....the illusion....to be real > > > > > > > > even if this my conclusion is " unreal " too.....and is part of a > > non- > > > > existing seperated illusion to be this body-mind-intellect.... > > > > > > that's where you get caught then... > > > and move over, cuz I do too... > > > oh those absurd, rediculous ego-minds! > > > > > > Bill > > > > > > ... > > > > true....why one should care about fantasies.....of " whoever " .... > > why caring about words in here.... > > why caring about meaning of words.... > > why writing endless messages.....and > > explanations.....and " ideas " ....and....and.... > > why trying to teach " whoever " ...that all this...is unreal.... > > why seeing and searching for darkness...when there Is light..... > > > > it's absurd....and ridiculous.... > > > > isn't it? > > > > Marc > > > > > > No more ridiculous then the pair of bluejays that build a nest every > year in my back yard. > > > > toombaru > good point toomb! birds of a feather we are! Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 30, 2006 Report Share Posted June 30, 2006 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " <pliantheart@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " <pliantheart@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " > > > <pliantheart@> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > > > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the world is playground for the little ego- > > > > minds....restless.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the world is a fiction of mind for the non-moving Self.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > so for the non-moving Self the " world " does not > > > > > > > even exist, the " world " is not even an " it " that > > > > > > > is " out there " in any sense whatsoever. > > > > > > > > > > > > for the non-moving Self....everything concerning the > > perception > > > > of > > > > > a > > > > > > world ...is related to mind.... > > > > > > to an ego-mind....if this entity percieve " others " > > > too....playing > > > > > > around > > > > > > > > > > maybe your notion of non-moving Self is different from mine! > > > > > > > > > > i.e. I say: for non-moving Self mind is not real, > > > > > nor is ego-mind. > > > > > > > > agree with " for non-moving Self mind is not real " > > > > why not...ok... > > > > it doesn't make much difference .... > > > > > > > > but i don't agree that some great ego-mind " imagine " to > > > > be " unreal " .....and therefore lead a destructive/miserable > > > > life....until death of.....the illusion....to be real > > > > > > > > even if this my conclusion is " unreal " too.....and is part of a > > non- > > > > existing seperated illusion to be this body-mind-intellect.... > > > > > > that's where you get caught then... > > > and move over, cuz I do too... > > > oh those absurd, rediculous ego-minds! > > > > > > Bill > > > > > > ... > > > > true....why one should care about fantasies.....of " whoever " .... > > why caring about words in here.... > > why caring about meaning of words.... > > why writing endless messages.....and > > explanations.....and " ideas " ....and....and.... > > why trying to teach " whoever " ...that all this...is unreal.... > > why seeing and searching for darkness...when there Is light..... > > > > it's absurd....and ridiculous.... > > > > isn't it? > > > > Marc > > > > > > No more ridiculous then the pair of bluejays that build a nest every > year in my back yard. > > > > toombaru lol......typical toomb then why you don't study them.... it seem that this pair of bluejays do it in peace and harmony.... Marc > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 30, 2006 Report Share Posted June 30, 2006 Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " <pliantheart@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " > <pliantheart@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " > > > > <pliantheart@> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > > > > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the world is playground for the little ego- > > > > > minds....restless.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the world is a fiction of mind for the non-moving > Self.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > so for the non-moving Self the " world " does not > > > > > > > > even exist, the " world " is not even an " it " that > > > > > > > > is " out there " in any sense whatsoever. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > for the non-moving Self....everything concerning the > > > perception > > > > > of > > > > > > a > > > > > > > world ...is related to mind.... > > > > > > > to an ego-mind....if this entity percieve " others " > > > > too....playing > > > > > > > around > > > > > > > > > > > > maybe your notion of non-moving Self is different from > mine! > > > > > > > > > > > > i.e. I say: for non-moving Self mind is not real, > > > > > > nor is ego-mind. > > > > > > > > > > agree with " for non-moving Self mind is not real " > > > > > why not...ok... > > > > > it doesn't make much difference .... > > > > > > > > > > but i don't agree that some great ego-mind " imagine " to > > > > > be " unreal " .....and therefore lead a destructive/miserable > > > > > life....until death of.....the illusion....to be real > > > > > > > > > > even if this my conclusion is " unreal " too.....and is part of > a > > > non- > > > > > existing seperated illusion to be this body-mind-intellect.... > > > > > > > > that's where you get caught then... > > > > and move over, cuz I do too... > > > > oh those absurd, rediculous ego-minds! > > > > > > > > Bill > > > > > > > > > ... > > > > > > true....why one should care about fantasies.....of " whoever " .... > > > why caring about words in here.... > > > why caring about meaning of words.... > > > why writing endless messages.....and > > > explanations.....and " ideas " ....and....and.... > > > why trying to teach " whoever " ...that all this...is unreal.... > > > why seeing and searching for darkness...when there Is light..... > > > > > > it's absurd....and ridiculous.... > > > > > > isn't it? > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > No more ridiculous then the pair of bluejays that build a nest every > > year in my back yard. > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > lol......typical toomb > > then why you don't study them.... > > it seem that this pair of bluejays do it in peace and harmony.... > > Marc > > > Last year a pair of crows ate the baby blue jays. toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 30, 2006 Report Share Posted June 30, 2006 Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " <pliantheart wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " <pliantheart@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " > <pliantheart@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " > > > > <pliantheart@> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > > > > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the world is playground for the little ego- > > > > > minds....restless.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the world is a fiction of mind for the non-moving > Self.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > so for the non-moving Self the " world " does not > > > > > > > > even exist, the " world " is not even an " it " that > > > > > > > > is " out there " in any sense whatsoever. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > for the non-moving Self....everything concerning the > > > perception > > > > > of > > > > > > a > > > > > > > world ...is related to mind.... > > > > > > > to an ego-mind....if this entity percieve " others " > > > > too....playing > > > > > > > around > > > > > > > > > > > > maybe your notion of non-moving Self is different from > mine! > > > > > > > > > > > > i.e. I say: for non-moving Self mind is not real, > > > > > > nor is ego-mind. > > > > > > > > > > agree with " for non-moving Self mind is not real " > > > > > why not...ok... > > > > > it doesn't make much difference .... > > > > > > > > > > but i don't agree that some great ego-mind " imagine " to > > > > > be " unreal " .....and therefore lead a destructive/miserable > > > > > life....until death of.....the illusion....to be real > > > > > > > > > > even if this my conclusion is " unreal " too.....and is part of > a > > > non- > > > > > existing seperated illusion to be this body-mind-intellect.... > > > > > > > > that's where you get caught then... > > > > and move over, cuz I do too... > > > > oh those absurd, rediculous ego-minds! > > > > > > > > Bill > > > > > > > > > ... > > > > > > true....why one should care about fantasies.....of " whoever " .... > > > why caring about words in here.... > > > why caring about meaning of words.... > > > why writing endless messages.....and > > > explanations.....and " ideas " ....and....and.... > > > why trying to teach " whoever " ...that all this...is unreal.... > > > why seeing and searching for darkness...when there Is light..... > > > > > > it's absurd....and ridiculous.... > > > > > > isn't it? > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > No more ridiculous then the pair of bluejays that build a nest every > > year in my back yard. > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > good point toomb! > birds of a feather we are! > > Bill > :><: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 30, 2006 Report Share Posted June 30, 2006 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " <pliantheart@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " > > <pliantheart@> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > > > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " > > > > > <pliantheart@> > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > > > > > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the world is playground for the little ego- > > > > > > minds....restless.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the world is a fiction of mind for the non-moving > > Self.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > so for the non-moving Self the " world " does not > > > > > > > > > even exist, the " world " is not even an " it " that > > > > > > > > > is " out there " in any sense whatsoever. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > for the non-moving Self....everything concerning the > > > > perception > > > > > > of > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > world ...is related to mind.... > > > > > > > > to an ego-mind....if this entity percieve " others " > > > > > too....playing > > > > > > > > around > > > > > > > > > > > > > > maybe your notion of non-moving Self is different from > > mine! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i.e. I say: for non-moving Self mind is not real, > > > > > > > nor is ego-mind. > > > > > > > > > > > > agree with " for non-moving Self mind is not real " > > > > > > why not...ok... > > > > > > it doesn't make much difference .... > > > > > > > > > > > > but i don't agree that some great ego-mind " imagine " to > > > > > > be " unreal " .....and therefore lead a destructive/miserable > > > > > > life....until death of.....the illusion....to be real > > > > > > > > > > > > even if this my conclusion is " unreal " too.....and is part of > > a > > > > non- > > > > > > existing seperated illusion to be this body-mind- intellect.... > > > > > > > > > > that's where you get caught then... > > > > > and move over, cuz I do too... > > > > > oh those absurd, rediculous ego-minds! > > > > > > > > > > Bill > > > > > > > > > > > > ... > > > > > > > > true....why one should care about fantasies.....of " whoever " .... > > > > why caring about words in here.... > > > > why caring about meaning of words.... > > > > why writing endless messages.....and > > > > explanations.....and " ideas " ....and....and.... > > > > why trying to teach " whoever " ...that all this...is unreal.... > > > > why seeing and searching for darkness...when there Is light..... > > > > > > > > it's absurd....and ridiculous.... > > > > > > > > isn't it? > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No more ridiculous then the pair of bluejays that build a nest every > > > year in my back yard. > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > lol......typical toomb > > > > then why you don't study them.... > > > > it seem that this pair of bluejays do it in peace and harmony.... > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > Last year a pair of crows ate the baby blue jays. > > > > toombaru aha.....so you think....that you can follow all of your (ridiculous) ideas and concepts.....because they do so? maybe you should think to get some nice conflict with the neighbors.......if they listen to you.... Marc > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 30, 2006 Report Share Posted June 30, 2006 > > > aha.....so you think....that you can follow all of your (ridiculous) > ideas and concepts.....because they do so? > > maybe you should think to get some nice conflict with the > neighbors.......if they listen to you.... > > > > Marc > > > Life is conflict. toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 30, 2006 Report Share Posted June 30, 2006 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > > > > > > > aha.....so you think....that you can follow all of your (ridiculous) > > ideas and concepts.....because they do so? > > > > maybe you should think to get some nice conflict with the > > neighbors.......if they listen to you.... > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > Life is conflict. > > toombaru lol......yes.....i know you can't live without conflict i'm not the one who would like to share your conflicts.... wish a nice weekend Marc > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 30, 2006 Report Share Posted June 30, 2006 Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > aha.....so you think....that you can follow all of your > (ridiculous) > > > ideas and concepts.....because they do so? > > > > > > maybe you should think to get some nice conflict with the > > > neighbors.......if they listen to you.... > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Life is conflict. > > > > toombaru > > > lol......yes.....i know > > you can't live without conflict > > i'm not the one who would like to share your conflicts.... > That is precisely what is happening. > wish a nice weekend What do you consider 'nice'? > > > > Marc > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 30, 2006 Report Share Posted June 30, 2006 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > > > > > > > aha.....so you think....that you can follow all of your (ridiculous) > > ideas and concepts.....because they do so? > > > > maybe you should think to get some nice conflict with the > > neighbors.......if they listen to you.... > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > Life is conflict. > > toombaru > conflict requires two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 30, 2006 Report Share Posted June 30, 2006 Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33 wrote: > > > > the world is playground for the little ego-minds....restless.... > > the world is a fiction of mind for the non-moving Self.... > > Marc The non-moving Self is a fiction of mind. -- D. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 30, 2006 Report Share Posted June 30, 2006 Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > the world is playground for the little ego-minds....restless.... > > > > the world is a fiction of mind for the non-moving Self.... > > > > Marc > > The non-moving Self is a fiction of mind. > > -- D. > OK... party's over... cuz Dan had to come in and spoil it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 3, 2006 Report Share Posted July 3, 2006 Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > the world is playground for the little ego-minds....restless.... > > > > the world is a fiction of mind for the non-moving Self.... > > > > Marc > > The non-moving Self is a fiction of mind. > > -- D. the moving mind can only be in move in relation to " something " not moving..... there is no move for Self Marc > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 3, 2006 Report Share Posted July 3, 2006 Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > the world is playground for the little ego-minds....restless.... > > > > > > the world is a fiction of mind for the non-moving Self.... > > > > > > Marc > > > > The non-moving Self is a fiction of mind. > > > > -- D. > > > the moving mind can only be in move in relation to " something " not > moving..... > there is no move for Self > > Marc Ps: all the bubbles in here....are only moving around the truth.... which is always ....in peace > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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