Guest guest Posted July 2, 2006 Report Share Posted July 2, 2006 life as it comes... can become a bad spell only... if you let the mind decide whats real... ....iietsa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 3, 2006 Report Share Posted July 3, 2006 Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa wrote: > > life as it comes... > can become a bad spell only... > if you let the mind decide whats real... > > ...iietsa > There is you outside of mind. toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 3, 2006 Report Share Posted July 3, 2006 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > life as it comes... > > can become a bad spell only... > > if you let the mind decide whats real... > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > There is you outside of mind. > > > > toombaru > mind creates outside and inside... but the uncreated Self is not outside or inside ....its not a creation of the mind ....iietsa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 3, 2006 Report Share Posted July 3, 2006 Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > life as it comes... > > > can become a bad spell only... > > > if you let the mind decide whats real... > > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > There is you outside of mind. > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > mind creates outside and inside... > but the uncreated Self is not outside or inside > ...its not a creation of the mind > ...iietsa > All of those ideas..........came from mind. toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 3, 2006 Report Share Posted July 3, 2006 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > life as it comes... > > > > can become a bad spell only... > > > > if you let the mind decide whats real... > > > > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There is you outside of mind. > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > mind creates outside and inside... > > but the uncreated Self is not outside or inside > > ...its not a creation of the mind > > ...iietsa > > > > > > All of those ideas..........came from mind. > > > toombaru > all ideas comes from the mind...ok but beyond the mind and all its activities... there is a " reality " not created by the mind... and this " reality " is there independently of the mind and its activities...now we all know that the word " reality " is just a mind- creation...all that is written here is mere words...so dont get stuck to the words and ideas and thoughts...if there is no relasionship with the mind at all...it dances in perfect harmony ....iietsa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 3, 2006 Report Share Posted July 3, 2006 Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > life as it comes... > > > > > can become a bad spell only... > > > > > if you let the mind decide whats real... > > > > > > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There is you outside of mind. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > mind creates outside and inside... > > > but the uncreated Self is not outside or inside > > > ...its not a creation of the mind > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > All of those ideas..........came from mind. > > > > > > toombaru > > > all ideas comes from the mind...ok > but beyond the mind and all its activities... > there is a " reality " not created by the mind... > and this " reality " is there independently of the mind and its > activities...now we all know that the word " reality " is just a mind- > creation...all that is written here is mere words...so dont get > stuck to the words and ideas and thoughts...if there is no > relasionship with the mind at all...it dances in perfect harmony > ...iietsa > All of those ideas came from mind. toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 3, 2006 Report Share Posted July 3, 2006 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > life as it comes... > > > > > > can become a bad spell only... > > > > > > if you let the mind decide whats real... > > > > > > > > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There is you outside of mind. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > mind creates outside and inside... > > > > but the uncreated Self is not outside or inside > > > > ...its not a creation of the mind > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > All of those ideas..........came from mind. > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > all ideas comes from the mind...ok > > but beyond the mind and all its activities... > > there is a " reality " not created by the mind... > > and this " reality " is there independently of the mind and its > > activities...now we all know that the word " reality " is just a mind- > > creation...all that is written here is mere words...so dont get > > stuck to the words and ideas and thoughts...if there is no > > relasionship with the mind at all...it dances in perfect harmony > > ...iietsa > All of those ideas came from mind. > > > toombaru > do you know your own true Self ? ....iietsa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 3, 2006 Report Share Posted July 3, 2006 Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " > <lastrain@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > life as it comes... > > > > > > > can become a bad spell only... > > > > > > > if you let the mind decide whats real... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There is you outside of mind. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > mind creates outside and inside... > > > > > but the uncreated Self is not outside or inside > > > > > ...its not a creation of the mind > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > All of those ideas..........came from mind. > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > all ideas comes from the mind...ok > > > but beyond the mind and all its activities... > > > there is a " reality " not created by the mind... > > > and this " reality " is there independently of the mind and its > > > activities...now we all know that the word " reality " is just a > mind- > > > creation...all that is written here is mere words...so dont get > > > stuck to the words and ideas and thoughts...if there is no > > > relasionship with the mind at all...it dances in perfect harmony > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > All of those ideas came from mind. > > > > > > toombaru > > > do you know your own true Self ? > ...iietsa > Nothing can know itself. toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 3, 2006 Report Share Posted July 3, 2006 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " > > <lastrain@> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > life as it comes... > > > > > > > > can become a bad spell only... > > > > > > > > if you let the mind decide whats real... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There is you outside of mind. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > mind creates outside and inside... > > > > > > but the uncreated Self is not outside or inside > > > > > > ...its not a creation of the mind > > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > All of those ideas..........came from mind. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > all ideas comes from the mind...ok > > > > but beyond the mind and all its activities... > > > > there is a " reality " not created by the mind... > > > > and this " reality " is there independently of the mind and its > > > > activities...now we all know that the word " reality " is just a > > mind- > > > > creation...all that is written here is mere words...so dont get > > > > stuck to the words and ideas and thoughts...if there is no > > > > relasionship with the mind at all...it dances in perfect harmony > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > All of those ideas came from mind. > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > do you know your own true Self ? > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > Nothing can know itself. > > > toombaru > nisargadatta in his own words: " When you know what you are, you also are what you know. Between knowing and being there is no gap. To know what you are, you must go beyond the mind. Awareness is the point at which the mind reaches out beyond itself into reality. In awareness you seek not what pleases, but what is true. " any coment on the " Nothing can know itself. " ....iietsa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 3, 2006 Report Share Posted July 3, 2006 Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " > <lastrain@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " > > > <lastrain@> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " > <iietsa@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > life as it comes... > > > > > > > > > can become a bad spell only... > > > > > > > > > if you let the mind decide whats real... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There is you outside of mind. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > mind creates outside and inside... > > > > > > > but the uncreated Self is not outside or inside > > > > > > > ...its not a creation of the mind > > > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > All of those ideas..........came from mind. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > all ideas comes from the mind...ok > > > > > but beyond the mind and all its activities... > > > > > there is a " reality " not created by the mind... > > > > > and this " reality " is there independently of the mind and > its > > > > > activities...now we all know that the word " reality " is just > a > > > mind- > > > > > creation...all that is written here is mere words...so dont > get > > > > > stuck to the words and ideas and thoughts...if there is no > > > > > relasionship with the mind at all...it dances in perfect > harmony > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > All of those ideas came from mind. > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > do you know your own true Self ? > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nothing can know itself. > > > > > > toombaru > > > nisargadatta in his own words: > " When you know what you are, you also are what you know. Between > knowing and being there is no gap. To know what you are, you must go > beyond the mind. Awareness is the point at which the mind reaches > out beyond itself into reality. In awareness you seek not what > pleases, but what is true. " > > any coment on the " Nothing can know itself. " > ...iietsa > There is no gap between the knowing and the known. Subject is object. Nothing can know itself......In order for that to occur it would have to be separate from itself........and that ain't gonna happen. There is no conflict with what came through Nissy. toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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