Guest guest Posted July 3, 2006 Report Share Posted July 3, 2006 a couple of years ago I was blindly identified with name and form... I was then having a so-called ordinary life... but one day my half-good...half-bad life was entering a deep crise... and my life just went darker and darker...til it was all darkness... (exept a little glow...the " me " ...) now this little " me " had done a whole lot of resistance... and without knowing it...had used up all of its power in resisting... so there was no more power left... the body was lying on the floor... the mind had run out of fuel... and then...sudenly...it happened... all in one moment... this little glow...the " me " died out...the glow died...POFF ....and in that exact very moment all that darkness...POFF turned into lightness...all happened in one POFF and for the first time I knew real happiness...real love...real I... real light... ....iietsa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 3, 2006 Report Share Posted July 3, 2006 Amazing. Thank you for sharing that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 3, 2006 Report Share Posted July 3, 2006 Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa wrote: > > a couple of years ago I was blindly identified with name and form... > I was then having a so-called ordinary life... > but one day my half-good...half-bad life was entering a deep crise... > and my life just went darker and darker...til it was all darkness... > (exept a little glow...the " me " ...) > now this little " me " had done a whole lot of resistance... > and without knowing it...had used up all of its power in resisting... > so there was no more power left... > the body was lying on the floor... > the mind had run out of fuel... > and then...sudenly...it happened... > all in one moment... > this little glow...the " me " died out...the glow died...POFF > ...and in that exact very moment all that darkness...POFF > turned into lightness...all happened in one POFF > and for the first time I knew real happiness...real love...real I... > real light... > > ...iietsa > That's a nice story - thank you for sharing it. But can you be certain it's the end of the story? Is it Brahma consciouness, or parabrahma? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 4, 2006 Report Share Posted July 4, 2006 Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa wrote: > > a couple of years ago I was blindly identified with name and form... > I was then having a so-called ordinary life... > but one day my half-good...half-bad life was entering a deep crise... > and my life just went darker and darker...til it was all darkness... > (exept a little glow...the " me " ...) > now this little " me " had done a whole lot of resistance... > and without knowing it...had used up all of its power in resisting... > so there was no more power left... > the body was lying on the floor... > the mind had run out of fuel... > and then...sudenly...it happened... > all in one moment... > this little glow...the " me " died out...the glow died...POFF > ...and in that exact very moment all that darkness...POFF > turned into lightness...all happened in one POFF > and for the first time I knew real happiness...real love...real I... > real light... > > ...iietsa > Something similar happened to me, though the order a little different. I had an experience of seeing that both feelings and thoughts were not truly what I was... and in that seeing there was an abrupt transformation (incidentally, that experience came out of a profound crisis as well). The next day I noticed that there was no longer a " sense of me " ... it was simply gone. I have since noticed that Krishnamurti will speak to this point again and again, which he refers to as a " centre " and as the " me " , around which accumulation happens. As long as there is something that is " mine " such as a feeling that is " my feeling " then there is a sense of me. Since the sense of me disappeared a few years ago I have a few times experienced a strong feeling that was as " mine " ... i.e. a sense of me showing up. But each time that has happened the invalidity of those feelings has been obvious, and so I have been able to move through them rather quickly. Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 4, 2006 Report Share Posted July 4, 2006 > The next day I noticed that there was no longer a > " sense of me " ... it was simply gone. > Is this the supreme state? The stateless state? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 4, 2006 Report Share Posted July 4, 2006 Nisargadatta , " jasondedonno " <jasondedonno wrote: > > > The next day I noticed that there was no longer a > > " sense of me " ... it was simply gone. > > > > > Is this the supreme state? The stateless state? > stateless state...yes... supreme state? don't like that term at all. the whole point is letting go of distinctions, of definitions, of concerns about this and that. so in the absence that is the having let go of all that, why go piling new and glorious distinctions? some prefer to call it simply This. I prefer to call it What Is (most of the time). What we are talking about is what is beyond words and labels. So kind of an irony to be debating the right label for that... Just know that as long as there is a " sense of me " there is attachment and bondage. And then be very present with that. Go into it... way way into it. Go deep enough, and with complete openness, and it will dissolve. What are your feeling right now? Go into that. What is at the root? When there is no sense of me, no sense of center, no sense of inside/outside and really no " feelings " per se... then the house is pretty clean I suppose one could say. so suggestion: don't aim for any " supreme " . Just aim for a clean house. Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 4, 2006 Report Share Posted July 4, 2006 Nisargadatta , " jasondedonno " <jasondedonno wrote: > > > The next day I noticed that there was no longer a > > " sense of me " ... it was simply gone. > > > > > Is this the supreme state? The stateless state? > i am >....... I AM >..........0......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 4, 2006 Report Share Posted July 4, 2006 Nisargadatta , " jasondedonno " <jasondedonno wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > a couple of years ago I was blindly identified with name and > form... > > I was then having a so-called ordinary life... > > but one day my half-good...half-bad life was entering a deep > crise... > > and my life just went darker and darker...til it was all > darkness... > > (exept a little glow...the " me " ...) > > now this little " me " had done a whole lot of resistance... > > and without knowing it...had used up all of its power in > resisting... > > so there was no more power left... > > the body was lying on the floor... > > the mind had run out of fuel... > > and then...sudenly...it happened... > > all in one moment... > > this little glow...the " me " died out...the glow died...POFF > > ...and in that exact very moment all that darkness...POFF > > turned into lightness...all happened in one POFF > > and for the first time I knew real happiness...real love...real > I... > > real light... > > > > ...iietsa > > > > That's a nice story - thank you for sharing it. But can you be > certain it's the end of the story? Is it Brahma consciouness, or > parabrahma? > I dont know the exact meaning of these words... ....iietsa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 4, 2006 Report Share Posted July 4, 2006 Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " <pliantheart wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > a couple of years ago I was blindly identified with name and form... > > I was then having a so-called ordinary life... > > but one day my half-good...half-bad life was entering a deep crise... > > and my life just went darker and darker...til it was all darkness... > > (exept a little glow...the " me " ...) > > now this little " me " had done a whole lot of resistance... > > and without knowing it...had used up all of its power in resisting... > > so there was no more power left... > > the body was lying on the floor... > > the mind had run out of fuel... > > and then...sudenly...it happened... > > all in one moment... > > this little glow...the " me " died out...the glow died...POFF > > ...and in that exact very moment all that darkness...POFF > > turned into lightness...all happened in one POFF > > and for the first time I knew real happiness...real love...real I... > > real light... > > > > ...iietsa > > > > Something similar happened to me, though the > order a little different. I had an experience > of seeing that both feelings and thoughts were > not truly what I was... and in that seeing there > was an abrupt transformation (incidentally, that > experience came out of a profound crisis as well). > > The next day I noticed that there was no longer a > " sense of me " ... it was simply gone. > > I have since noticed that Krishnamurti will speak > to this point again and again, which he refers to > as a " centre " and as the " me " , around which > accumulation happens. > > As long as there is something that is " mine " > such as a feeling that is " my feeling " then there > is a sense of me. > > Since the sense of me disappeared a few years ago > I have a few times experienced a strong feeling > that was as " mine " ... i.e. a sense of me showing > up. But each time that has happened the invalidity > of those feelings has been obvious, and so I have > been able to move through them rather quickly. > > > Bill > thanks Bill for answering my question ....what was the " main-doing by the ego " in this crisis... ....iietsa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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