Guest guest Posted July 5, 2006 Report Share Posted July 5, 2006 to be certain about anything is illusion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 5, 2006 Report Share Posted July 5, 2006 Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " <pliantheart wrote: > > to be certain about anything > is illusion > the more you trust the real... the stronger the fire burns the more you trust the false... the stronger the shadows power ....iietsa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 6, 2006 Report Share Posted July 6, 2006 Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " <pliantheart@> > wrote: > > > > to be certain about anything > > is illusion > > > the more you trust the real... > the stronger the fire burns > > the more you trust the false... > the stronger the shadows power > ...iietsa this seem to be certain....yes Marc > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 6, 2006 Report Share Posted July 6, 2006 Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " <pliantheart@> > > wrote: > > > > > > to be certain about anything > > > is illusion > > > > > the more you trust the real... > > the stronger the fire burns > > > > the more you trust the false... > > the stronger the shadows power > > ...iietsa > > > this seem to be certain....yes > > Marc > > > actually Marc imho, one never trusts when one lives in the shadows. only when light overcomes the darkness can one see that there is only light. and the light is beyond any sense of trusting. and this is what we trust, it is our very breath, the power of spirit to remove the shadows of any doubt that love is here, love is kind, love will always lead us to more love when we walk in the sun where there are no shadows. YIL, Ana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 6, 2006 Report Share Posted July 6, 2006 Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " > <pliantheart@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > to be certain about anything > > > > is illusion > > > > > > > the more you trust the real... > > > the stronger the fire burns > > > > > > the more you trust the false... > > > the stronger the shadows power > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > this seem to be certain....yes > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > actually Marc imho, one never trusts when one lives > in the shadows. > sometimes.....yes sometimes....it seem....that the one who live into the (own) shadow... he/she listen to imaginary " others " ........appearing because of busy mind-work.... the Self never told anything....to anybody..... the language of Self....is Silence.... in this Silence.....one can trust even if the sun is rising....for few moments of time..... this does not mean that It will stay.....forever one could/should trust in Self.....which is behind mind- work.....behind all imaginary " others " (shadows of oneself) > only when light overcomes the darkness can one see > that there is only light. and the light is beyond > any sense of trusting. > > and this is what we trust, it is our very breath, > the power of spirit to remove the shadows of any doubt > that love is here, love is kind, love will always lead > us to more love when we walk in the sun where there are > no shadows. love is Oneness.... more love isn't more Oneness.... and endless more love isn't still ....more Oneness.... keep cool.... Marc > > YIL, > Ana > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 6, 2006 Report Share Posted July 6, 2006 Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " <pliantheart@> > wrote: > > > > to be certain about anything > > is illusion > > > the more you trust the real... > the stronger the fire burns > > the more you trust the false... > the stronger the shadows power > ...iietsa > The only real is the living now, the unquenchable moment. There is no such thing as " me " trusting the living now. That I willingly die again and again into the now... that is not trust... I die again and again into the now, willingly, because something is extinguished. So there is no thought that " yes I trust the now, so yes I die willingly into it. " No. There is no thought. There is no " because of trust " anything... It is as if I am hardwired to die into the now, again and again... It is not a choice. Trust is a basis for choice. This is another matter altogether. Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 6, 2006 Report Share Posted July 6, 2006 Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " kailashana@ > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " > > <pliantheart@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > to be certain about anything > > > > > is illusion > > > > > > > > > the more you trust the real... > > > > the stronger the fire burns > > > > > > > > the more you trust the false... > > > > the stronger the shadows power > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > this seem to be certain....yes > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > actually Marc imho, one never trusts when one lives > > in the shadows. > > > > sometimes.....yes > > sometimes....it seem....that the one who live into the (own) shadow... > he/she listen to imaginary " others " ........appearing because of busy > mind-work.... > > the Self never told anything....to anybody..... > > the language of Self....is Silence.... This great Silence includes every thought, every sound > > in this Silence.....one can trust > > even if the sun is rising....for few moments of time..... > this does not mean that It will stay.....forever Beyond the clouds, the dark skyies the thunder and zig zag of endless bolts, the sun always shines. > > one could/should trust in Self.....which is behind mind- > work.....behind all imaginary " others " (shadows of oneself) > > > only when light overcomes the darkness can one see > > that there is only light. and the light is beyond > > any sense of trusting. > > > > and this is what we trust, it is our very breath, > > the power of spirit to remove the shadows of any doubt > > that love is here, love is kind, love will always lead > > us to more love when we walk in the sun where there are > > no shadows. > > love is Oneness.... > > more love isn't more Oneness.... > > and endless more love isn't still ....more Oneness.... > > keep cool.... We have all lived on a desert named for ourselves, thirsting when the oasis is within ourselves. YIL, Ana > > Marc > > > > YIL, > > Ana > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 6, 2006 Report Share Posted July 6, 2006 Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " kailashana@ > > wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " > > > <pliantheart@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > to be certain about anything > > > > > > is illusion > > > > > > > > > > > the more you trust the real... > > > > > the stronger the fire burns > > > > > > > > > > the more you trust the false... > > > > > the stronger the shadows power > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > this seem to be certain....yes > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > actually Marc imho, one never trusts when one lives > > > in the shadows. > > > > > > > sometimes.....yes > > > > sometimes....it seem....that the one who live into the (own) shadow... > > he/she listen to imaginary " others " ........appearing because of busy > > mind-work.... > > > > the Self never told anything....to anybody..... > > > > the language of Self....is Silence.... > > This great Silence includes every thought, every sound > > > > > > in this Silence.....one can trust > > > > even if the sun is rising....for few moments of time..... > > this does not mean that It will stay.....forever > > Beyond the clouds, the dark skyies the thunder and zig zag of > > endless bolts, the sun always shines. > > > > one could/should trust in Self.....which is behind mind- > > work.....behind all imaginary " others " (shadows of oneself) > > > > > only when light overcomes the darkness can one see > > > that there is only light. and the light is beyond > > > any sense of trusting. > > > > > > and this is what we trust, it is our very breath, > > > the power of spirit to remove the shadows of any doubt > > > that love is here, love is kind, love will always lead > > > us to more love when we walk in the sun where there are > > > no shadows. > > > > love is Oneness.... > > > > more love isn't more Oneness.... > > > > and endless more love isn't still ....more Oneness.... > > > > keep cool.... > > We have all lived on a desert named for ourselves, thirsting > > when the oasis is within ourselves. > true.... > > > YIL, > > Ana > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > YIL, > > > Ana > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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