Guest guest Posted July 6, 2006 Report Share Posted July 6, 2006 --- iietsa <iietsa a écrit : > Nisargadatta , > " dannyc_1eyeluv " > <dannyc_1eyeluv wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " > <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , > " dannyc_1eyeluv " > > > <dannyc_1eyeluv@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " > <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , > " dannyc_1eyeluv " > > > > > <dannyc_1eyeluv@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , > " iietsa " <iietsa@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > suffering is everyday-life for most > people... > > > > > > > can one do anything to help another to > find bliss... > > > > > > > its obvious that mere words will not do > much... > > > > > > > and its quite obvious too, that just by > being bliss > > > oneself.... > > > > > > > there is not much of change happening to > others... > > > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > how do you know? dc > > > > > > > > > > > know what ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > how do you know what you said in the above > paragraph is true? > that > > > not > > > > much change is happening to others? how do you > evaluate that? > > > what's > > > > your criteria of measurement? share with me. > dc > > > > > > > " other " (the true Self mixed up with the > mind-thought) > > > when mixed up with mind...there is taking > yourself to be what > you > > > are not... > > > this " entity " is false...so whatever change > there is - > > > is to his " entity " and therefor no change at all > > > ...to help the " other " ....only sustains the > " other " > > > > > > real help is when the Self somehow realizes this > mix-up mecanism > > > and when this realization is there...there never > was anybody to > help > > > ....and when all this is clear it can be said > that all so called > > > help was a hindrance....it was a part of the > mix-up-buisness... > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > ^^^yeah, but, how do you know that what you are > saying above is > true & > > that you are not mixed up? how do you determine > what is " other " & > what > > is not? where does " other " begin & " the self " end? > is there even a > > division between the two? if not, then what's the > problem? ;-) > dc^^^ > > > the Self is the true God...so to speak > the mind...if emphasized...is the false God > when you are true...the mind by nature is in its > right place > when mind is made king...then all kinds of illusions > is taken to be > real... > > ...iietsa yet nothing really happens... > > > > > _________________________ Mail réinvente le mail ! Découvrez le nouveau Mail et son interface révolutionnaire. http://fr.mail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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