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Pete... please don't raise your voice....

>

> We are getting along just fine here.

> No need for any straightening up of anybody here.

>

> Peace....

> buckets full

> oceans full

> universes full

>

> So yes, it is our party...

> and we are having a good time.

>

> Let it be.

>

> Bill

>

> P: Ha, ha! It's party, we're having

> fun with the heart. Is it not

> what this list is about? Fun and heart?

> Didn't Nis said: Come to my sadsang

> to party and to have fun blabbering about

> the heart.

>

>

***********

Guess again, he'd throw you all out on your ear.

If he was in a particularly good mood, at best,

he'd make a table for you out in the backyard

with the pigs, so you could be amongst your kind.

 

Then again, the pigs would probably run you off too.

 

Judi

 

P: Did you guess I was being sarcastic, my aging love?

If you didn't, vitamin b12, and cutting on the booze

will help. But when you're right, you're right! He wouldn't

have put up with this blabbering bunch. Only you, and I'd

have been allowed to sit quietly in his presence

listening, and chewing our tobacco wads. ;)

 

Just joking I don't use tobacco, do you? :)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Nisargadatta , Pete S <pedsie5 wrote:

>

> Pete... please don't raise your voice....

> >

> > We are getting along just fine here.

> > No need for any straightening up of anybody here.

> >

> > Peace....

> > buckets full

> > oceans full

> > universes full

> >

> > So yes, it is our party...

> > and we are having a good time.

> >

> > Let it be.

> >

> > Bill

> >

> > P: Ha, ha! It's party, we're having

> > fun with the heart. Is it not

> > what this list is about? Fun and heart?

> > Didn't Nis said: Come to my sadsang

> > to party and to have fun blabbering about

> > the heart.

> >

> >

> ***********

> Guess again, he'd throw you all out on your ear.

> If he was in a particularly good mood, at best,

> he'd make a table for you out in the backyard

> with the pigs, so you could be amongst your kind.

>

> Then again, the pigs would probably run you off too.

>

> Judi

>

> P: Did you guess I was being sarcastic, my aging love?

> If you didn't, vitamin b12, and cutting on the booze

> will help. But when you're right, you're right! He wouldn't

> have put up with this blabbering bunch. Only you, and I'd

> have been allowed to sit quietly in his presence

> listening, and chewing our tobacco wads. ;)

>

 

**************

Guess again, you'd be the first one he'd throw out.

Go figure...

 

Here, from the ranch this morning..

 

> ***************

> > > .. you keep trying to analyze yourself out of your

> suffering.

> > > It doesn't work like that. How many times and how many

different

> > ways

> > > have I said, the way to it is through it? Instead of all this

> > mental

> > > activity, you must throw yourself into your suffering and stop

> with

> > > all this trying to get on top of it. There is no " on top of

it " .

> > > Whenever you find yourself suffering, instead of backing away

> from

> > > it, go in the opposite direction and throw yourself into it.

> > > Mentally, emotionally and physically. But, look on the bright

> side,

> > > you get better than a front row seat, you get to be the

> sacrifical

> > > goat at the feast. :-)

> > >

> > > Judi

> > >

> >

> > *************

> > Now, for any of you new guys here, when I say throw yourself into

> > your suffering, that DOESN'T mean to get into dramatizing it.

> > Iow, no pity parties. Certainly crying is allowed, but no

wallowing.

> > Surely, there's enough idiot, ugly drama queens in the world as

it

> > is, I don't want to be blamed for adding to that! :-)

> >

> > Judi

> >

>

> ************

> If you guys will allow yourselves to suffer, just allow yourself to

> go deeper and deeper into it, such that you will become identical

to

> it, and you will fall through, unscatched out the bottom. But the

key

> is in allowing it, staying " awake " through it. Stay conscious, be

> aware, don't go to sleep. This is about consciously sacrificing

> yourself, intentional suffering. I am reminded what Jesus said to

his

> disciples at Gethsemene that night, he instructed them to

> stay " awake " with him, suffer with him, " pray " with him.

>

> You see, there's a lesson here if you can grasp it, and that

> is " intentional suffering " , and it works slicker than crap through

a

> goose if you can grasp it. Like a lightbulb going off in your head.

> And once you do, you've got the tiger by the tail, instead of the

> tiger having you.

>

> Judi

>

 

**************

And what I'm trying to convey here is that you can have " truths "

thrown at you by very God Himself from now till kingdom come, and it

will do nothing for your overall condition, you will continue to

remain an idiot. You've read how many books now?? You've hung out

with how many sages, gone to how many satsangs? All that is just you

reading and playing around with " pornography " . It's more of the same

mastrabatory nonsense that never really gets you anywhere.

 

Iow, I speak to the " way " itself, the " work " on your part that has to

be done. That MUST be done. Iow, it's not merely an academic matter

of hearing " truths " , pornography. Sooner or later, it should dawn on

you, like it did a friend of mine, that after all these many years,

you're still the same old schmuck you ever were. That's gotta hurt.

And if it hurts sufficiently, you'll hear me, and start actually

doing the work of conscious surrender.

 

Even making the smallest of efforts will magnify itself and grow.

The first step is the most important. It's like planting a tree,

first you have to get the seed in the ground. Start surrendering

yourself, throw yourself on the floor, prostrate yourself, lord have

mercy I am a sinner. :-) There, that should about do it. :-) A good

first step.

 

Judi

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Nisargadatta , Pete S <pedsie5 wrote:

>

> Pete... please don't raise your voice....

> >

> > We are getting along just fine here.

> > No need for any straightening up of anybody here.

> >

> > Peace....

> > buckets full

> > oceans full

> > universes full

> >

> > So yes, it is our party...

> > and we are having a good time.

> >

> > Let it be.

> >

> > Bill

> >

> > P: Ha, ha! It's party, we're having

> > fun with the heart. Is it not

> > what this list is about? Fun and heart?

> > Didn't Nis said: Come to my sadsang

> > to party and to have fun blabbering about

> > the heart.

> >

> >

> ***********

> Guess again, he'd throw you all out on your ear.

> If he was in a particularly good mood, at best,

> he'd make a table for you out in the backyard

> with the pigs, so you could be amongst your kind.

>

> Then again, the pigs would probably run you off too.

>

> Judi

>

> P: Did you guess I was being sarcastic, my aging love?

> If you didn't, vitamin b12, and cutting on the booze

> will help. But when you're right, you're right! He wouldn't

> have put up with this blabbering bunch. Only you, and I'd

> have been allowed to sit quietly in his presence

> listening, and chewing our tobacco wads. ;)

>

> Just joking I don't use tobacco, do you? :)

>

>

>

just as i thought pete missed the Love Boat... la la la

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