Love & Suffering

[Guest guest]

Both love and suffering are emotions,

and emotions are surface disturbances,

they don't lead to the the depth beneath

sensation.

 

All feelings, all ideas are evanescent,

and yet, it is the memory of such ephemera

that you identify with. You are no more the

memory of yesterday's you, than you are the

memory of yesterday's TV show. What are you,

then? Not the boat, nor the love, nor the sea

on which they float. The depth of the void can't

be plummeted by passing emotions.

[Guest guest]

Nisargadatta , Pete S <pedsie5 wrote:

>

> Both love and suffering are emotions,

> and emotions are surface disturbances,

> they don't lead to the the depth beneath

> sensation.

>

> All feelings, all ideas are evanescent,

> and yet, it is the memory of such ephemera

> that you identify with. You are no more the

> memory of yesterday's you, than you are the

> memory of yesterday's TV show. What are you,

> then? Not the boat, nor the love, nor the sea

> on which they float. The depth of the void can't

> be plummeted by passing emotions.

>

 

************

Guess again! If a thorn in your foot didn't hurt,

you'd never bother about it, it would fester and

end up infecting your whole body. Simply put,

avoidance is not the way to go.

Nice try though Pete, but, it's your life not mine.

If you don't have the guts for it, the stomach for it,

who am I to tell you?

 

Judi

[Guest guest]

Nisargadatta , " Judi Rhodes " <rhodesjudi

wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , Pete S <pedsie5@> wrote:

> >

> > Both love and suffering are emotions,

> > and emotions are surface disturbances,

> > they don't lead to the the depth beneath

> > sensation.

> >

> > All feelings, all ideas are evanescent,

> > and yet, it is the memory of such ephemera

> > that you identify with. You are no more the

> > memory of yesterday's you, than you are the

> > memory of yesterday's TV show. What are you,

> > then? Not the boat, nor the love, nor the sea

> > on which they float. The depth of the void can't

> > be plummeted by passing emotions.

> >

>

> ************

> Guess again! If a thorn in your foot didn't hurt,

> you'd never bother about it, it would fester and

> end up infecting your whole body.

 

That is very good, Judi!

 

So... IYO is all pain including

mental pain a call for Attention -

a call for awareness, consciousness,

observation, examination and investigation?

 

And, in this way, pain when happens is " good "

i.e. pain that happens " should " happen - it

is the intrinsic intelligence at work?

 

In case of physical pain , we have seen

that even if suppress it by taking sedatives,

the wound does recover by itself [or by medicine]

if all else goes fine. What happens when you

'suppress' ['forget] mental pain? Does the same

thing happens as in physical pain i.e. you might

really forget it as the time passes?

 

[it is often said: Time heals every wound.]

 

 

In case of a physical wound, if you

keep 'opening it up' and 'examining' it

more than necessary - in many cases, you might

make it worse and greatly delay the recovery.

Do you think same thing happens with the mental

pain too?

 

Further, to really examine a physical wound

to make it 'heal' one needs to be reasonably

well skilled and experienced else you might do

more harm than good. Does examining mental

wound to 'cure' it too requires good expertise,

skill and experience or can any armature do

it well?

 

 

What is your experience?

 

 

 

> Simply put,

> avoidance is not the way to go.

> Nice try though Pete, but, it's your life not mine.

> If you don't have the guts for it, the stomach for it,

> who am I to tell you?

>

> Judi

>