Guest guest Posted July 8, 2006 Report Share Posted July 8, 2006 > Both love and suffering are emotions, > and emotions are surface disturbances, > they don't lead to the the depth beneath > sensation. > > All feelings, all ideas are evanescent, > and yet, it is the memory of such ephemera > that you identify with. You are no more the > memory of yesterday's you, than you are the > memory of yesterday's TV show. What are you, > then? Not the boat, nor the love, nor the sea > on which they float. The depth of the void can't > be plummeted by passing emotions. > ************ Guess again! If a thorn in your foot didn't hurt, you'd never bother about it, it would fester and end up infecting your whole body. Simply put, avoidance is not the way to go. Nice try though Pete, but, it's your life not mine. If you don't have the guts for it, the stomach for it, who am I to tell you? Judi P: Sure, Judy, suffering is a signal that something is wrong, but your method of sit and watch it and ask for more, is as, if when your phone rang, you would sit there and study it. If you want to know what the caller has to say, you have to pick up. Suffering is not intelligent, it's just a dumb ringing. It's your wrong ideas about yourself and the world who are ringing, those ideas need to be investigated and seen thru, and watching your suffering won't do it. Many people, as you know, enjoy suffering and humiliation, and they love people like you, not because they want liberation, but because they get their rocks off by being insulted, bossed around, and humiliated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2006 Report Share Posted July 8, 2006 Nisargadatta , " Judi Rhodes " <rhodesjudi wrote: > > Nisargadatta , Pete S <pedsie5@> wrote: > > > > Both love and suffering are emotions, > > and emotions are surface disturbances, > > they don't lead to the the depth beneath > > sensation. > > > > All feelings, all ideas are evanescent, > > and yet, it is the memory of such ephemera > > that you identify with. You are no more the > > memory of yesterday's you, than you are the > > memory of yesterday's TV show. What are you, > > then? Not the boat, nor the love, nor the sea > > on which they float. The depth of the void can't > > be plummeted by passing emotions. > > > > ************ > Guess again! If a thorn in your foot didn't hurt, > you'd never bother about it, it would fester and > end up infecting your whole body. Simply put, > avoidance is not the way to go. > Nice try though Pete, but, it's your life not mine. > If you don't have the guts for it, the stomach for it, > who am I to tell you? > > Judi > Oh my god Judi, It's not Pete's life. And your life is not yours. You are stuck in a self-referential-circularity. There is absolutely nothing that you can do to help your imaginary self. See that.........and all the wiggling and cursing stops. toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2006 Report Share Posted July 8, 2006 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " Judi Rhodes " <rhodesjudi@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , Pete S <pedsie5@> wrote: > > > > > > Both love and suffering are emotions, > > > and emotions are surface disturbances, > > > they don't lead to the the depth beneath > > > sensation. > > > > > > All feelings, all ideas are evanescent, > > > and yet, it is the memory of such ephemera > > > that you identify with. You are no more the > > > memory of yesterday's you, than you are the > > > memory of yesterday's TV show. What are you, > > > then? Not the boat, nor the love, nor the sea > > > on which they float. The depth of the void can't > > > be plummeted by passing emotions. > > > > > > > ************ > > Guess again! If a thorn in your foot didn't hurt, > > you'd never bother about it, it would fester and > > end up infecting your whole body. Simply put, > > avoidance is not the way to go. > > Nice try though Pete, but, it's your life not mine. > > If you don't have the guts for it, the stomach for it, > > who am I to tell you? > > > > Judi > > > > > Oh my god Judi, > > It's not Pete's life. And your life is not yours. > > You are stuck in a self-referential-circularity. > > There is absolutely nothing that you can do to help your imaginary self. > > > See that.........and all the wiggling and cursing stops. > > > toombaru > ********** Your clever advaita-speak is just that. Now run along you pathetic little jerk. And beings how you don't have a life, I suggest you get one! Now beat it, fool. Judi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2006 Report Share Posted July 8, 2006 Nisargadatta , Pete S <pedsie5 wrote: > > > Both love and suffering are emotions, > > and emotions are surface disturbances, > > they don't lead to the the depth beneath > > sensation. > > > > All feelings, all ideas are evanescent, > > and yet, it is the memory of such ephemera > > that you identify with. You are no more the > > memory of yesterday's you, than you are the > > memory of yesterday's TV show. What are you, > > then? Not the boat, nor the love, nor the sea > > on which they float. The depth of the void can't > > be plummeted by passing emotions. > > > > ************ > Guess again! If a thorn in your foot didn't hurt, > you'd never bother about it, it would fester and > end up infecting your whole body. Simply put, > avoidance is not the way to go. > Nice try though Pete, but, it's your life not mine. > If you don't have the guts for it, the stomach for it, > who am I to tell you? > > Judi > > P: Sure, Judy, suffering is a signal that something is wrong, > but your method of sit and watch it and ask for more, > is as, if when your phone rang, you would sit there and > study it. If you want to know what the caller has to say, you > have to pick up. Suffering is not intelligent, it's just a > dumb ringing. It's your wrong ideas about yourself > and the world who are ringing, those ideas need to > be investigated and seen thru, and watching your > suffering won't do it. > > Many people, as you know, enjoy suffering and humiliation, > and they love people like you, not because they want > liberation, but because they get their rocks off by being > insulted, bossed around, and humiliated. > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2006 Report Share Posted July 8, 2006 Nisargadatta , " Judi Rhodes " <rhodesjudi wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " Judi Rhodes " <rhodesjudi@> > wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , Pete S <pedsie5@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Both love and suffering are emotions, > > > > and emotions are surface disturbances, > > > > they don't lead to the the depth beneath > > > > sensation. > > > > > > > > All feelings, all ideas are evanescent, > > > > and yet, it is the memory of such ephemera > > > > that you identify with. You are no more the > > > > memory of yesterday's you, than you are the > > > > memory of yesterday's TV show. What are you, > > > > then? Not the boat, nor the love, nor the sea > > > > on which they float. The depth of the void can't > > > > be plummeted by passing emotions. > > > > > > > > > > ************ > > > Guess again! If a thorn in your foot didn't hurt, > > > you'd never bother about it, it would fester and > > > end up infecting your whole body. Simply put, > > > avoidance is not the way to go. > > > Nice try though Pete, but, it's your life not mine. > > > If you don't have the guts for it, the stomach for it, > > > who am I to tell you? > > > > > > Judi > > > > > > > > > Oh my god Judi, > > > > It's not Pete's life. And your life is not yours. > > > > You are stuck in a self-referential-circularity. > > > > There is absolutely nothing that you can do to help your imaginary > self. > > > > > > See that.........and all the wiggling and cursing stops. > > > > > > toombaru > > > > ********** > Your clever advaita-speak is just that. > > Now run along you pathetic little jerk. > > And beings how you don't have a life, I suggest you get one! > > Now beat it, fool. > > Judi > Alas..........I fear that your negative tirade will have no more effect then your maudlin philosophical pap. toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2006 Report Share Posted July 8, 2006 Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr wrote: > > Nisargadatta , Pete S <pedsie5@> wrote: > > > > > Both love and suffering are emotions, > > > and emotions are surface disturbances, > > > they don't lead to the the depth beneath > > > sensation. > > > > > > All feelings, all ideas are evanescent, > > > and yet, it is the memory of such ephemera > > > that you identify with. You are no more the > > > memory of yesterday's you, than you are the > > > memory of yesterday's TV show. What are you, > > > then? Not the boat, nor the love, nor the sea > > > on which they float. The depth of the void can't > > > be plummeted by passing emotions. > > > > > > > ************ > > Guess again! If a thorn in your foot didn't hurt, > > you'd never bother about it, it would fester and > > end up infecting your whole body. Simply put, > > avoidance is not the way to go. > > Nice try though Pete, but, it's your life not mine. > > If you don't have the guts for it, the stomach for it, > > who am I to tell you? > > > > Judi > > > > P: Sure, Judy, suffering is a signal that something is wrong, > > but your method of sit and watch it and ask for more, > > is as, if when your phone rang, you would sit there and > > study it. If you want to know what the caller has to say, you > > have to pick up. Suffering is not intelligent, it's just a > > dumb ringing. It's your wrong ideas about yourself > > and the world who are ringing, those ideas need to > > be investigated and seen thru, and watching your > > suffering won't do it. > > > > Many people, as you know, enjoy suffering and humiliation, > > and they love people like you, not because they want > > liberation, but because they get their rocks off by being > > insulted, bossed around, and humiliated. > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2006 Report Share Posted July 8, 2006 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , Pete S <pedsie5@> wrote: > > > > > > > Both love and suffering are emotions, > > > > and emotions are surface disturbances, > > > > they don't lead to the the depth beneath > > > > sensation. > > > > > > > > All feelings, all ideas are evanescent, > > > > and yet, it is the memory of such ephemera > > > > that you identify with. You are no more the > > > > memory of yesterday's you, than you are the > > > > memory of yesterday's TV show. What are you, > > > > then? Not the boat, nor the love, nor the sea > > > > on which they float. The depth of the void can't > > > > be plummeted by passing emotions. > > > > > > > > > > ************ > > > Guess again! If a thorn in your foot didn't hurt, > > > you'd never bother about it, it would fester and > > > end up infecting your whole body. Simply put, > > > avoidance is not the way to go. > > > Nice try though Pete, but, it's your life not mine. > > > If you don't have the guts for it, the stomach for it, > > > who am I to tell you? > > > > > > Judi > > > > > > P: Sure, Judy, suffering is a signal that something is wrong, > > > but your method of sit and watch it and ask for more, > > > is as, if when your phone rang, you would sit there and > > > study it. If you want to know what the caller has to say, you > > > have to pick up. Suffering is not intelligent, it's just a > > > dumb ringing. It's your wrong ideas about yourself > > > and the world who are ringing, those ideas need to > > > be investigated and seen thru, and watching your > > > suffering won't do it. > > > > > > Many people, as you know, enjoy suffering and humiliation, > > > and they love people like you, not because they want > > > liberation, but because they get their rocks off by being > > > insulted, bossed around, and humiliated. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2006 Report Share Posted July 8, 2006 Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , Pete S <pedsie5@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Both love and suffering are emotions, > > > > > and emotions are surface disturbances, > > > > > they don't lead to the the depth beneath > > > > > sensation. > > > > > > > > > > All feelings, all ideas are evanescent, > > > > > and yet, it is the memory of such ephemera > > > > > that you identify with. You are no more the > > > > > memory of yesterday's you, than you are the > > > > > memory of yesterday's TV show. What are you, > > > > > then? Not the boat, nor the love, nor the sea > > > > > on which they float. The depth of the void can't > > > > > be plummeted by passing emotions. > > > > > > > > > > > > > ************ > > > > Guess again! If a thorn in your foot didn't hurt, > > > > you'd never bother about it, it would fester and > > > > end up infecting your whole body. Simply put, > > > > avoidance is not the way to go. > > > > Nice try though Pete, but, it's your life not mine. > > > > If you don't have the guts for it, the stomach for it, > > > > who am I to tell you? > > > > > > > > Judi > > > > > > > > P: Sure, Judy, suffering is a signal that something is wrong, > > > > but your method of sit and watch it and ask for more, > > > > is as, if when your phone rang, you would sit there and > > > > study it. If you want to know what the caller has to say, you > > > > have to pick up. Suffering is not intelligent, it's just a > > > > dumb ringing. It's your wrong ideas about yourself > > > > and the world who are ringing, those ideas need to > > > > be investigated and seen thru, and watching your > > > > suffering won't do it. > > > > > > > > Many people, as you know, enjoy suffering and humiliation, > > > > and they love people like you, not because they want > > > > liberation, but because they get their rocks off by being > > > > insulted, bossed around, and humiliated. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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