Guest guest Posted February 6, 2004 Report Share Posted February 6, 2004 > > I find it difficult to believe that Ramana Maharshi could say that > the mind has to be destroyed, but if he did make such a statement, > then it is most unhelpful. The true nature of awakened Being is > utterly without judgment. It is neither for nor against anything and > so to say that the mind has to be destroyed would be inconsistent > with the true nature of Being. The suggestion or implication that > the ego will be annihilated or destroyed upon awakening is a common > one and it is a major obstacle to awakening............... ................ Hi Jim, I do not know who the person who wrote this article is, nevertheless reading the first sentences of it makes it clear that Ramana Maharshi's teaching is not entirely clear to him, best wishes, vicki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 2006 Report Share Posted July 7, 2006 Someone posted that Ramana Maharshi never did sadhana and didn't know what it meant until someone mentioned it to him. He might not have known what it meant but he did it and did it heavily if only briefly, according to all accounts. At 17 or so, fearing death, he simulated death, rigor mortis and all, and then inquired as to what it is that dies, inquiring one by one into the components of mind and body. After which, he left home and entered a deep state in which he was impervious to insults and rocks tossed at him. This is well known and can be read in his books and probably on the internet. BTW someone mentioned to Ramana Maharshi that the Maharshi never had a guru. Ramana replied something like, " How do you know I didn't have a guru who was not imbodied? " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2006 Report Share Posted July 8, 2006 Nisargadatta , " Richard " <richarkar wrote: > > Someone posted that Ramana Maharshi never did sadhana and didn't know > what it meant until someone mentioned it to him. > > He might not have known what it meant but he did it and did it heavily > if only briefly, according to all accounts. At 17 or so, fearing > death, he simulated death, rigor mortis and all, and then inquired as > to what it is that dies, inquiring one by one into the components of > mind and body. After which, he left home and entered a deep state in > which he was impervious to insults and rocks tossed at him. > > This is well known and can be read in his books and probably on the > internet. > > BTW someone mentioned to Ramana Maharshi that the Maharshi never had a > guru. Ramana replied something like, " How do you know I didn't have a > guru who was not imbodied? " > David Godman wrote some wonderful books on the teachings and the stories about Ramana Maharashi (as told by the devotees). I highly recommend them. http://davidgodman.org/books/powerofprescence.shtml On a personal note, it was David Godman's book " Be As You Are " that helped me understand the Advaita talk. http://davidgodman.org/books/beasyouare.shtml Hur Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2006 Report Share Posted July 8, 2006 toombaru, Since I value your words please tell me: Can't a saint's words be used as pointers to the Truth? By the same token, can't a saint's life also be used as a pointer to the Truth? Also on a personal note, I liked reading biographies of saints, sports figures, actors, comedians. I have tried to learn how each saint and teacher, him/herself became realized. What was the aha! moment for them? What have all these books done for me? What should I do instead, play with knives and perhaps cut myself? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2006 Report Share Posted July 8, 2006 Nisargadatta , " Richard " <richarkar wrote: > > toombaru, > > Since I value your words please tell me: Can't a saint's words be used > as pointers to the Truth? By the same token, can't a saint's life also > be used as a pointer to the Truth? > > Also on a personal note, I liked reading biographies of saints, sports > figures, actors, comedians. I have tried to learn how each saint and > teacher, him/herself became realized. What was the aha! moment for > them? > > What have all these books done for me? What should I do instead, play > with knives and perhaps cut myself? there are no such things as saints......sports figures, actors, comedians et al. Only toombaru lives..and he is 'not' as well.....like his kids and grandchildren...only figments of nobody's imagination of nothing......I feel safe in speaking for nobody.....surely nobody is not moderated....that would be like moderating nothing and we know that's not the case....all us nobodies don't know that. you can't not moderate nothing.......or can you? ......bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2006 Report Share Posted July 9, 2006 Nisargadatta , " Richard " <richarkar wrote: > > toombaru, > > Since I value your words please tell me: Can't a saint's words be used > as pointers to the Truth? By the same token, can't a saint's life also > be used as a pointer to the Truth? > > Also on a personal note, I liked reading biographies of saints, sports > figures, actors, comedians. I have tried to learn how each saint and > teacher, him/herself became realized. What was the aha! moment for > them? > > What have all these books done for me? What should I do instead, play > with knives and perhaps cut myself? > god, no! play with a box of band-aids instead. put them all over you. when someone comes and says " yikes, what happened? " you can say, " oh, these? nothing. -nothing happened- " . -- " just say no to knives " josie-- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2006 Report Share Posted July 9, 2006 Nisargadatta , " Richard " <richarkar wrote: > > toombaru, > > Since I value your words please tell me: Can't a saint's words be used > as pointers to the Truth? By the same token, can't a saint's life also > be used as a pointer to the Truth? > > Also on a personal note, I liked reading biographies of saints, sports > figures, actors, comedians. I have tried to learn how each saint and > teacher, him/herself became realized. What was the aha! moment for > them? > > What have all these books done for me? What should I do instead, play > with knives and perhaps cut myself? > There is a sad mistake that people make in believing that another human is somehow more elevated then they are. And that by following the imagined path that the imagined more elevated one took.... that they too may reach the same imagined lofty heights. There are no saints......there are talking heads......consciousness itself talking to its self....remembering. Their steps cannot be repeated.......you have to learn your own steps.....The words that flow through them ....return from the ages to softly walk you back into your own innate naturalness. You do not worship the radio that brings the sunday morning sermon........You should not worship the talking head that brings the truth that you have never forgotten. toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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