Guest guest Posted July 9, 2006 Report Share Posted July 9, 2006 Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " adithya_comming " > <adithya_comming@> wrote: > > > > I was in India for about 3 weeks. I > > met many people. Did some work. > > Attended few functions. Even had few > > arguments - some very heated, some > > minor. Had some episode of hot tamper > > and some very touching moments. > > > > Three things that I did notice however > > was that: > > > > A. I had little or no occurrence of > > 'sense of self'. > > > > > > B. I had NO " spiritual " thoughts. > > > > Few times I sat alone, sat on the > > computer but, did not feel like either > > reading anything spiritual nor like > > writing anything related to that > > matter. My energy seemed fully focused > > on person-to-person human relationships > > and on creative growth in material > > sense. > > > > C. I had no 'sense of suffering'. > > > > My acceptance to what is seemed > > natural, automatic and choice-less and > > it seemed as if I was internally ok > > with every result. > > > > This was when at level of " things " I > > did have events that can be seen as > > causing suffering. > > > > I didn't know whether this sense of no > > suffering was due to having lot of > > money [for the context in which I was > > living in], for not having any real > > work, for having very little idle time > > [my " work " has lot of 'idle' time], > > being in contacts of people most of the > > time or because of not having any real > > goal and plan. > > > > I don't know why but, it was as if I was > > naturally living in a " surrendered " , > > 'self less' way... > > > > Congratulation ! > > If you would have NOT posted this then I would have believed what you > wrote. > > Next chance NOT to post will arrive > > Werner > Stop 'kidding' me Werner! From my end, I am looking for a " way " and not for you [or someone else] to " congratulate " or 'believe' me. I think that intention can become clear after reading the very next message that I had posted in this thread. Seriously, do you know of any way that can help make it a sustained condition while leading a modern life of work, family and society. I see my 'sense of self' rise in these environment especially when I feel emphasis on 'personal self'. Further, I notice this 'sense of self' as a pain and split both at the physical as well as at the mental level. What way you have find effective in this regard? Have you done yoga? Do you think yoga can be effecient in this regard? With warm regards, ac. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2006 Report Share Posted July 9, 2006 Nisargadatta , " adithya_comming " <adithya_comming wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@> > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " adithya_comming " > > <adithya_comming@> wrote: > > > > > > I was in India for about 3 weeks. I > > > met many people. Did some work. > > > Attended few functions. Even had few > > > arguments - some very heated, some > > > minor. Had some episode of hot tamper > > > and some very touching moments. > > > > > > Three things that I did notice however > > > was that: > > > > > > A. I had little or no occurrence of > > > 'sense of self'. > > > > > > > > > B. I had NO " spiritual " thoughts. > > > > > > Few times I sat alone, sat on the > > > computer but, did not feel like either > > > reading anything spiritual nor like > > > writing anything related to that > > > matter. My energy seemed fully focused > > > on person-to-person human relationships > > > and on creative growth in material > > > sense. > > > > > > C. I had no 'sense of suffering'. > > > > > > My acceptance to what is seemed > > > natural, automatic and choice-less and > > > it seemed as if I was internally ok > > > with every result. > > > > > > This was when at level of " things " I > > > did have events that can be seen as > > > causing suffering. > > > > > > I didn't know whether this sense of no > > > suffering was due to having lot of > > > money [for the context in which I was > > > living in], for not having any real > > > work, for having very little idle time > > > [my " work " has lot of 'idle' time], > > > being in contacts of people most of the > > > time or because of not having any real > > > goal and plan. > > > > > > I don't know why but, it was as if I was > > > naturally living in a " surrendered " , > > > 'self less' way... > > > > > > > Congratulation ! > > > > If you would have NOT posted this then I would have believed what > you > > wrote. > > > > Next chance NOT to post will arrive > > > > Werner > > > > > Stop 'kidding' me Werner! > > From my end, > I am looking for a " way " and > not for you [or someone else] > to " congratulate " or 'believe' > me. > > I think that intention can become > clear after reading the very next message that > I had posted in this thread. > > > > Seriously, > do you know of any way that can > help make it a sustained condition > while leading a modern life of work, > family and society. > > I see my 'sense of self' rise in these > environment especially when I feel emphasis > on 'personal self'. Further, I notice this > 'sense of self' as a pain and split both > at the physical as well as at the mental > level. > > > What way you have find effective in > this regard? > > Have you done yoga? > Do you think yoga can be effecient in > this regard? > > > With warm regards, > ac. > Arvind, You are what you are. There is only what is and no alternative. When reading the posts of Dan they mostly are pointing at the status- quo, the momentary state or situation which is the only situation and not another one, a different one. I don't see for myself alternatives besides those I am imagining, every moment, every event is as it is. And telling you somehting else would be ridiculous. Werner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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