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GuruRatings , " adithya_comming "

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GuruRatings , " Matthew Files "

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> GuruRatings , " adithya_comming "

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> > Thanks Matthew!

> >

> > Do you know of any way that can

> > help make it a sustained condition

> > while leading a modern life of work,

> > family and society.

>

> .....................My experience is that whether it is a

> worldly life, or an ashram life, as soon I try to

> do anything to sustain it, it's over.

 

I am asking if 'sustaining'

can naturally result because of some

practice. Such as by doing

yoga in the morning, by

doing meditation in the morning,

night, mid-day and afternoon

 

 

or maybe, by having a plan

[with desired goal and method]

for each day, each hour and

each situation [to the extent

possible].

 

These are the things that

I don't do currently.

 

Do you have any experience doing those?

 

If yes, could you share your experience?

 

 

 

> Trying to sustain

> it is missing the point. Enquiry, attention to breath,

> repetition of the name of god, are practices one can do

> in the modern busy work life.

 

I do practice 'attention to breath'

many times and sometimes when

I feel this sense of conflict.

 

But, most times, I find that it is

" too late " for it to work i.e.

the 'feeling of self' has become

somewhat deep and breath awareness

doesn't remove it.

 

 

Sometimes, I take my attention

directly inside that 'feeling of

stress'. In a way, I go " looking

for " it, trying to carefully

see it, examine it, understand it

with a mind of 'wanting to know'.

 

When I do that - most of the times,

I find that it has gone 'missing'.

But, sometimes... it 'returns' again

later when I take my attention

away from it.

 

 

 

> They take no extra time, or

> special place to do them. Not however as an attempt

> to sustain any particular state, but just because of the value

> of ceaseless practice, the value of which can only be known

> by doing.

 

I will try that.

 

Sometimes, I have also tried

'body awareness' as in being

fully aware of body while sitting

in a meeting. But, when I do that

I feel kind of 'losing' the body

and, losing the sense of self - I feel

kind of disoriented and I fear that

I wouldn't know what to say,

how to respond and react.

 

It is something that I suspect is

counter productive in a business

meeting and thus, I drop

body awareness when I feel

losing the 'framework' in

which to 'decide' my response.

 

 

Pretty much same thing happens

when I try 'literal hearing' - as

in listening with no 'mental

commentary' - I feel losing

the 'sense of self' - losing

the 'framework' to 'decide

'what to say', 'how to respond'.

 

 

Thinking more about it, it seems

I feel that I am not really

" free " in the company work

environment and that feeling

of 'bondage' works at the

sub-conscious level creating

painful feelings.

 

Perhaps, there is a new approach

that I can bring to my work. Perhaps,

I can change my thinking in this regard

at the ground level.

 

 

Just thinking out loud, Matthew...

 

 

>

>

> > As I mentioned in my earlier message,

> > I seem my 'sense of self' rise in these

> > environment especially when I feel emphasis

> > on 'personal self'. Further, I notice this

> > 'sense of self' as a pain and split both

> > at the physical as well as at the mental

> > level.

> >

> > What way have you found effective in

> > this regard?

>

> ...........Doing nothing about the pain.

> Allowing it to be there and observing without

> judgement.

>

> > Do you think yoga can be effecient in

> > this regard?

> >

> ..........To ease the pain? yes.

 

Thanks.

 

I am asking more in terms of

'prevention' as in maybe, I

do yoga in the morning and

as a consequence I feel more

integrated and stronger internally

and thus far more immune to external

circumstances.

 

Do you think it can work in this regard too?

 

 

>

> Matthew

>

 

 

With warm regards,

ac.