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> > Whatever the feeling, whatever the 'state'

> > there is " adjustment " going on. Adjustment is

> > the nature of the mechanism. No need to

> > think, " I am adjusting. " Just as well to

> > consider, " I am not part of this. "

> >

> >

> >

> > Bill

>

>

> would be easier to just use the very old concepts....

> you could name " adjustment " .... " karma " .....

 

the term 'karma' tends to have a personal connotation.

I.e. it is generally thought that " someone " *has* the

karma.

 

I prefer " adjustment " because I prefer to think in

terms of a dynamic system. The system is fluctuating,

going through adjustments... no need to suppose an

" anyone " involved.

 

Bill

 

 

> this " adjustments " is like running karma.....

>

> karma is related to past actions.....

>

> some are saying that the law of karma is even " present " ...within

> every actions.....

> means....whatever one do....now......the fruits (good or bad

> fruits)......are already present....at same time...

> maybe this is the case when there is more " consciousness " ....or

> more " awareness "

>

> maybe the more one is attached to the fiction of an individual body-

> mind-intellect......the more this imaginary entity is involved into

> this law of karma....

> means...the more " adjustment " is happening.....

> and also the longer it take to the imaginary individuality to be

> conscious about the fact of karma

>

> when the imaginary individuality of body-mind-intellect come to an

> end......

>

> there is liberation.....

>

> difficult to talk about " adjustment " still....when there is

> liberation......

>

> what/who is there to be adjusted still.....?

>

> Marc

 

 

 

 

 

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Nisargadatta , Luz y Sombras <pliantheart

wrote:

>

> > > Whatever the feeling, whatever the 'state'

> > > there is " adjustment " going on. Adjustment is

> > > the nature of the mechanism. No need to

> > > think, " I am adjusting. " Just as well to

> > > consider, " I am not part of this. "

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Bill

> >

> >

> > would be easier to just use the very old concepts....

> > you could name " adjustment " .... " karma " .....

>

> the term 'karma' tends to have a personal connotation.

> I.e. it is generally thought that " someone " *has* the

> karma.

>

> I prefer " adjustment " because I prefer to think in

> terms of a dynamic system. The system is fluctuating,

> going through adjustments... no need to suppose an

> " anyone " involved.

>

> Bill

 

 

ok....i see what you mean....

 

but if " nobody " is involved......

there is also no system which is fluctuating....

 

 

Marc

>

>

> > this " adjustments " is like running karma.....

> >

> > karma is related to past actions.....

> >

> > some are saying that the law of karma is even " present " ...within

> > every actions.....

> > means....whatever one do....now......the fruits (good or bad

> > fruits)......are already present....at same time...

> > maybe this is the case when there is more " consciousness " ....or

> > more " awareness "

> >

> > maybe the more one is attached to the fiction of an individual

body-

> > mind-intellect......the more this imaginary entity is involved

into

> > this law of karma....

> > means...the more " adjustment " is happening.....

> > and also the longer it take to the imaginary individuality to be

> > conscious about the fact of karma

> >

> > when the imaginary individuality of body-mind-intellect come to

an

> > end......

> >

> > there is liberation.....

> >

> > difficult to talk about " adjustment " still....when there is

> > liberation......

> >

> > what/who is there to be adjusted still.....?

> >

> > Marc

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 "

<dennis_travis33 wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , Luz y Sombras <pliantheart@>

> wrote:

> >

> > > > Whatever the feeling, whatever the 'state'

> > > > there is " adjustment " going on. Adjustment is

> > > > the nature of the mechanism. No need to

> > > > think, " I am adjusting. " Just as well to

> > > > consider, " I am not part of this. "

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Bill

> > >

> > >

> > > would be easier to just use the very old concepts....

> > > you could name " adjustment " .... " karma " .....

> >

> > the term 'karma' tends to have a personal connotation.

> > I.e. it is generally thought that " someone " *has* the

> > karma.

> >

> > I prefer " adjustment " because I prefer to think in

> > terms of a dynamic system. The system is fluctuating,

> > going through adjustments... no need to suppose an

> > " anyone " involved.

> >

> > Bill

>

>

> ok....i see what you mean....

>

> but if " nobody " is involved......

> there is also no system which is fluctuating....

>

>

> Marc

> >

> >

> > > this " adjustments " is like running karma.....

> > >

> > > karma is related to past actions.....

> > >

> > > some are saying that the law of karma is

even " present " ...within

> > > every actions.....

> > > means....whatever one do....now......the fruits (good or bad

> > > fruits)......are already present....at same time...

> > > maybe this is the case when there is

more " consciousness " ....or

> > > more " awareness "

> > >

> > > maybe the more one is attached to the fiction of an individual

> body-

> > > mind-intellect......the more this imaginary entity is involved

> into

> > > this law of karma....

> > > means...the more " adjustment " is happening.....

> > > and also the longer it take to the imaginary individuality to

be

> > > conscious about the fact of karma

> > >

> > > when the imaginary individuality of body-mind-intellect come

to

> an

> > > end......

> > >

> > > there is liberation.....

> > >

> > > difficult to talk about " adjustment " still....when there is

> > > liberation......

> > >

> > > what/who is there to be adjusted still.....?

> > >

> > > Marc

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

 

 

 

After awhile,

self-correction is automatic in the reserveration

in/as/of the unchanging notion and In-car-nation* of the occupation

and the relation we have in perpetuity with the absolute authority

of Being without a 'second', or we are at rest, in the secondless

now.

 

Being. No past. No future.

 

 

YIL,

Ana

 

 

* who is in the drivers seat. No question.

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Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana

wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 "

> <dennis_travis33@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , Luz y Sombras <pliantheart@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > > > Whatever the feeling, whatever the 'state'

> > > > > there is " adjustment " going on. Adjustment is

> > > > > the nature of the mechanism. No need to

> > > > > think, " I am adjusting. " Just as well to

> > > > > consider, " I am not part of this. "

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Bill

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > would be easier to just use the very old concepts....

> > > > you could name " adjustment " .... " karma " .....

> > >

> > > the term 'karma' tends to have a personal connotation.

> > > I.e. it is generally thought that " someone " *has* the

> > > karma.

> > >

> > > I prefer " adjustment " because I prefer to think in

> > > terms of a dynamic system. The system is fluctuating,

> > > going through adjustments... no need to suppose an

> > > " anyone " involved.

> > >

> > > Bill

> >

> >

> > ok....i see what you mean....

> >

> > but if " nobody " is involved......

> > there is also no system which is fluctuating....

> >

> >

> > Marc

> > >

> > >

> > > > this " adjustments " is like running karma.....

> > > >

> > > > karma is related to past actions.....

> > > >

> > > > some are saying that the law of karma is

> even " present " ...within

> > > > every actions.....

> > > > means....whatever one do....now......the fruits (good or bad

> > > > fruits)......are already present....at same time...

> > > > maybe this is the case when there is

> more " consciousness " ....or

> > > > more " awareness "

> > > >

> > > > maybe the more one is attached to the fiction of an

individual

> > body-

> > > > mind-intellect......the more this imaginary entity is

involved

> > into

> > > > this law of karma....

> > > > means...the more " adjustment " is happening.....

> > > > and also the longer it take to the imaginary individuality to

> be

> > > > conscious about the fact of karma

> > > >

> > > > when the imaginary individuality of body-mind-intellect come

> to

> > an

> > > > end......

> > > >

> > > > there is liberation.....

> > > >

> > > > difficult to talk about " adjustment " still....when there is

> > > > liberation......

> > > >

> > > > what/who is there to be adjusted still.....?

> > > >

> > > > Marc

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

>

>

>

> After awhile,

> self-correction is automatic in the reserveration

> in/as/of the unchanging notion and In-car-nation* of the occupation

> and the relation we have in perpetuity with the absolute authority

> of Being without a 'second', or we are at rest, in the secondless

> now.

>

> Being. No past. No future.

>

>

> YIL,

> Ana

 

 

yes.....being.....

just being....is only possible when there is " No past. No future "

 

everything else is the mind-game running....and running....

as long the batteries are loaded....with/by time and space.....

>

>

> * who is in the drivers seat. No question.

 

nobody/nothing ever drove anywhere.....

except in a fabuloes dream-bubble.....

>

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--- dennis_travis33 <dennis_travis33 wrote:

 

> Nisargadatta , Luz y Sombras <pliantheart

> wrote:

> >

> > > > Whatever the feeling, whatever the 'state'

> > > > there is " adjustment " going on. Adjustment is

> > > > the nature of the mechanism. No need to

> > > > think, " I am adjusting. " Just as well to

> > > > consider, " I am not part of this. "

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Bill

> > >

> > >

> > > would be easier to just use the very old concepts....

> > > you could name " adjustment " .... " karma " .....

> >

> > the term 'karma' tends to have a personal connotation.

> > I.e. it is generally thought that " someone " *has* the

> > karma.

> >

> > I prefer " adjustment " because I prefer to think in

> > terms of a dynamic system. The system is fluctuating,

> > going through adjustments... no need to suppose an

> > " anyone " involved.

> >

> > Bill

>

>

> ok....i see what you mean....

>

> but if " nobody " is involved......

> there is also no system which is fluctuating....

>

>

> Marc

 

there is " phenomena " ...

what we call " appearance "

and there is constant transformation,

fluctuation, change in " appearance " ...

 

such fluctuation can be seen as

" my experience " , but not necessarily.

 

to *see it as* a dynamic system is an

alternative. Just a way of seeing.

To see as a dynamic system is interesting

at times. But to see it in those terms

is not (necessarily) to say it *is*

a system.

 

Bill

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Nisargadatta , pliantheart <pliantheart wrote:

>

>

>

> --- dennis_travis33 <dennis_travis33 wrote:

>

> > Nisargadatta , Luz y Sombras <pliantheart@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > > > Whatever the feeling, whatever the 'state'

> > > > > there is " adjustment " going on. Adjustment is

> > > > > the nature of the mechanism. No need to

> > > > > think, " I am adjusting. " Just as well to

> > > > > consider, " I am not part of this. "

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Bill

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > would be easier to just use the very old concepts....

> > > > you could name " adjustment " .... " karma " .....

> > >

> > > the term 'karma' tends to have a personal connotation.

> > > I.e. it is generally thought that " someone " *has* the

> > > karma.

> > >

> > > I prefer " adjustment " because I prefer to think in

> > > terms of a dynamic system. The system is fluctuating,

> > > going through adjustments... no need to suppose an

> > > " anyone " involved.

> > >

> > > Bill

> >

> >

> > ok....i see what you mean....

> >

> > but if " nobody " is involved......

> > there is also no system which is fluctuating....

> >

> >

> > Marc

>

> there is " phenomena " ...

> what we call " appearance "

> and there is constant transformation,

> fluctuation, change in " appearance " ...

>

> such fluctuation can be seen as

> " my experience " , but not necessarily.

>

> to *see it as* a dynamic system is an

> alternative. Just a way of seeing.

> To see as a dynamic system is interesting

> at times. But to see it in those terms

> is not (necessarily) to say it *is*

> a system.

>

> Bill

>

 

It is strange to me that others can feel and understand

" change " and fluctuation. I do not understand it at all!

 

Everything, every sequence of events is to me individual disconnected

parts that are complete things with no relation to each other...

I have a massive form of dyslexia in which I can only read one letter

at a time, never a whole word all at one glance. And that is how I

experience life.

 

I artifically string things together in order to participate in life

events with other people. But I am just faking it. Often I am told

that my statements sound cumbersome or clumsy.

 

As I am writing this my heart is pounding and I am hyperventalating

because I am touching something that feels powerful and explosive to

me, something I do not often look at.

 

In the physical game of life this is not a pro survival state, because

writing my name or driving my car is imensly complicated to me... but

in a spiritual sense it is an infinity of individual " selves " and

" nows " , which is neither good nor bad.

I am not experiencing life this way, I am Being lives this way.

Nothing flows or changes, all things just are all at once to me.

 

I often fear the future just like most other people, but I don't

comprehend how it is also, at some point, the present.

 

Thanks for letting me express all of that to each of you as it helped

me see it more fully:-)

 

Stuart

 

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Nisargadatta , " stuartkfmn " <stuartkfmn

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> Nisargadatta , pliantheart <pliantheart@>

wrote:

> >

> >

> >

> > --- dennis_travis33 <dennis_travis33@> wrote:

> >

> > > Nisargadatta , Luz y Sombras

<pliantheart@>

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > > > Whatever the feeling, whatever the 'state'

> > > > > > there is " adjustment " going on. Adjustment is

> > > > > > the nature of the mechanism. No need to

> > > > > > think, " I am adjusting. " Just as well to

> > > > > > consider, " I am not part of this. "

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Bill

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > would be easier to just use the very old concepts....

> > > > > you could name " adjustment " .... " karma " .....

> > > >

> > > > the term 'karma' tends to have a personal connotation.

> > > > I.e. it is generally thought that " someone " *has* the

> > > > karma.

> > > >

> > > > I prefer " adjustment " because I prefer to think in

> > > > terms of a dynamic system. The system is fluctuating,

> > > > going through adjustments... no need to suppose an

> > > > " anyone " involved.

> > > >

> > > > Bill

> > >

> > >

> > > ok....i see what you mean....

> > >

> > > but if " nobody " is involved......

> > > there is also no system which is fluctuating....

> > >

> > >

> > > Marc

> >

> > there is " phenomena " ...

> > what we call " appearance "

> > and there is constant transformation,

> > fluctuation, change in " appearance " ...

> >

> > such fluctuation can be seen as

> > " my experience " , but not necessarily.

> >

> > to *see it as* a dynamic system is an

> > alternative. Just a way of seeing.

> > To see as a dynamic system is interesting

> > at times. But to see it in those terms

> > is not (necessarily) to say it *is*

> > a system.

> >

> > Bill

> >

>

> It is strange to me that others can feel and understand

> " change " and fluctuation. I do not understand it at all!

>

> Everything, every sequence of events is to me individual

disconnected

> parts that are complete things with no relation to each other...

> I have a massive form of dyslexia in which I can only read one

letter

> at a time, never a whole word all at one glance. And that is how I

> experience life.

>

> I artifically string things together in order to participate in

life

> events with other people. But I am just faking it. Often I am told

> that my statements sound cumbersome or clumsy.

>

> As I am writing this my heart is pounding and I am hyperventalating

> because I am touching something that feels powerful and explosive

to

> me, something I do not often look at.

>

> In the physical game of life this is not a pro survival state,

because

> writing my name or driving my car is imensly complicated to me...

but

> in a spiritual sense it is an infinity of individual " selves " and

> " nows " , which is neither good nor bad.

> I am not experiencing life this way, I am Being lives this way.

> Nothing flows or changes, all things just are all at once to me.

>

> I often fear the future just like most other people, but I don't

> comprehend how it is also, at some point, the present.

>

> Thanks for letting me express all of that to each of you as it

helped

> me see it more fully:-)

>

> Stuart

 

 

Namaste Stuart,

 

You have it but don't see it;-)

 

There is a Stuart, and within that/this " Stuart " was an embryo,

a newborn, a toddler, a teenager, a young man, etc. and where ever

you are in the being-ness and evolution of Stuart, there is still

one that has not been 'experienced/lived' so the past and future

Stuarts are all inherent in the present 'Stuart'.

 

Does that help?

 

 

YIL,

Ana

 

 

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Nisargadatta , pliantheart <pliantheart

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>

>

> --- dennis_travis33 <dennis_travis33 wrote:

>

> > Nisargadatta , Luz y Sombras <pliantheart@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > > > Whatever the feeling, whatever the 'state'

> > > > > there is " adjustment " going on. Adjustment is

> > > > > the nature of the mechanism. No need to

> > > > > think, " I am adjusting. " Just as well to

> > > > > consider, " I am not part of this. "

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Bill

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > would be easier to just use the very old concepts....

> > > > you could name " adjustment " .... " karma " .....

> > >

> > > the term 'karma' tends to have a personal connotation.

> > > I.e. it is generally thought that " someone " *has* the

> > > karma.

> > >

> > > I prefer " adjustment " because I prefer to think in

> > > terms of a dynamic system. The system is fluctuating,

> > > going through adjustments... no need to suppose an

> > > " anyone " involved.

> > >

> > > Bill

> >

> >

> > ok....i see what you mean....

> >

> > but if " nobody " is involved......

> > there is also no system which is fluctuating....

> >

> >

> > Marc

>

> there is " phenomena " ...

> what we call " appearance "

> and there is constant transformation,

> fluctuation, change in " appearance " ...

>

> such fluctuation can be seen as

> " my experience " , but not necessarily.

>

> to *see it as* a dynamic system is an

> alternative. Just a way of seeing.

> To see as a dynamic system is interesting

> at times. But to see it in those terms

> is not (necessarily) to say it *is*

> a system.

>

> Bill

 

 

ok....

 

at times.....there are some interesting things appearing....

coming...and going.....

yes...

 

Marc

 

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--- dennis_travis33 <dennis_travis33 wrote:

 

> Nisargadatta , pliantheart <pliantheart

> wrote:

> >

> >

> >

> > --- dennis_travis33 <dennis_travis33 wrote:

> >

> > > Nisargadatta , Luz y Sombras <pliantheart@>

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > > > Whatever the feeling, whatever the 'state'

> > > > > > there is " adjustment " going on. Adjustment is

> > > > > > the nature of the mechanism. No need to

> > > > > > think, " I am adjusting. " Just as well to

> > > > > > consider, " I am not part of this. "

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Bill

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > would be easier to just use the very old concepts....

> > > > > you could name " adjustment " .... " karma " .....

> > > >

> > > > the term 'karma' tends to have a personal connotation.

> > > > I.e. it is generally thought that " someone " *has* the

> > > > karma.

> > > >

> > > > I prefer " adjustment " because I prefer to think in

> > > > terms of a dynamic system. The system is fluctuating,

> > > > going through adjustments... no need to suppose an

> > > > " anyone " involved.

> > > >

> > > > Bill

> > >

> > >

> > > ok....i see what you mean....

> > >

> > > but if " nobody " is involved......

> > > there is also no system which is fluctuating....

> > >

> > >

> > > Marc

> >

> > there is " phenomena " ...

> > what we call " appearance "

> > and there is constant transformation,

> > fluctuation, change in " appearance " ...

> >

> > such fluctuation can be seen as

> > " my experience " , but not necessarily.

> >

> > to *see it as* a dynamic system is an

> > alternative. Just a way of seeing.

> > To see as a dynamic system is interesting

> > at times. But to see it in those terms

> > is not (necessarily) to say it *is*

> > a system.

> >

> > Bill

>

>

> ok....

>

> at times.....there are some interesting things appearing....

> coming...and going.....

> yes...

>

> Marc

>

 

without even getting down to " some interesting things " ....

 

just that there are " transitions " ...

 

nothing (that is) identifiable, and yet...

change...

 

as if there is movement

but nothing that is moving

 

What Is is alive

 

Bill

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Nisargadatta , pliantheart <pliantheart

wrote:

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>

>

> --- dennis_travis33 <dennis_travis33 wrote:

>

> > Nisargadatta , pliantheart <pliantheart@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > --- dennis_travis33 <dennis_travis33@> wrote:

> > >

> > > > Nisargadatta , Luz y Sombras

<pliantheart@>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > > > Whatever the feeling, whatever the 'state'

> > > > > > > there is " adjustment " going on. Adjustment is

> > > > > > > the nature of the mechanism. No need to

> > > > > > > think, " I am adjusting. " Just as well to

> > > > > > > consider, " I am not part of this. "

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Bill

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > would be easier to just use the very old concepts....

> > > > > > you could name " adjustment " .... " karma " .....

> > > > >

> > > > > the term 'karma' tends to have a personal connotation.

> > > > > I.e. it is generally thought that " someone " *has* the

> > > > > karma.

> > > > >

> > > > > I prefer " adjustment " because I prefer to think in

> > > > > terms of a dynamic system. The system is fluctuating,

> > > > > going through adjustments... no need to suppose an

> > > > > " anyone " involved.

> > > > >

> > > > > Bill

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ok....i see what you mean....

> > > >

> > > > but if " nobody " is involved......

> > > > there is also no system which is fluctuating....

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Marc

> > >

> > > there is " phenomena " ...

> > > what we call " appearance "

> > > and there is constant transformation,

> > > fluctuation, change in " appearance " ...

> > >

> > > such fluctuation can be seen as

> > > " my experience " , but not necessarily.

> > >

> > > to *see it as* a dynamic system is an

> > > alternative. Just a way of seeing.

> > > To see as a dynamic system is interesting

> > > at times. But to see it in those terms

> > > is not (necessarily) to say it *is*

> > > a system.

> > >

> > > Bill

> >

> >

> > ok....

> >

> > at times.....there are some interesting things appearing....

> > coming...and going.....

> > yes...

> >

> > Marc

> >

>

> without even getting down to " some interesting things " ....

>

> just that there are " transitions " ...

>

> nothing (that is) identifiable, and yet...

> change...

>

> as if there is movement

> but nothing that is moving

>

> What Is is alive

>

> Bill

>

>

> yes.....nice words....

 

this happen in deep harmony and peace.....

 

no more individuality.....to wish/will something

 

no more reality.....for emotions....

 

just ...being

 

Marc

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> > >

> > > ok....

> > >

> > > at times.....there are some interesting things appearing....

> > > coming...and going.....

> > > yes...

> > >

> > > Marc

> > >

> >

> > without even getting down to " some interesting things " ....

> >

> > just that there are " transitions " ...

> >

> > nothing (that is) identifiable, and yet...

> > change...

> >

> > as if there is movement

> > but nothing that is moving

> >

> > What Is is alive

> >

> > Bill

> >

> >

> > yes.....nice words....

>

> this happen in deep harmony and peace.....

>

> no more individuality.....to wish/will something

>

> no more reality.....for emotions....

>

> just ...being

>

> Marc

>

 

yes....

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " stuartkfmn " <stuartkfmn@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , pliantheart <pliantheart@>

> wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > --- dennis_travis33 <dennis_travis33@> wrote:

> > >

> > > > Nisargadatta , Luz y Sombras

> <pliantheart@>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > > > Whatever the feeling, whatever the 'state'

> > > > > > > there is " adjustment " going on. Adjustment is

> > > > > > > the nature of the mechanism. No need to

> > > > > > > think, " I am adjusting. " Just as well to

> > > > > > > consider, " I am not part of this. "

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Bill

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > would be easier to just use the very old concepts....

> > > > > > you could name " adjustment " .... " karma " .....

> > > > >

> > > > > the term 'karma' tends to have a personal connotation.

> > > > > I.e. it is generally thought that " someone " *has* the

> > > > > karma.

> > > > >

> > > > > I prefer " adjustment " because I prefer to think in

> > > > > terms of a dynamic system. The system is fluctuating,

> > > > > going through adjustments... no need to suppose an

> > > > > " anyone " involved.

> > > > >

> > > > > Bill

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ok....i see what you mean....

> > > >

> > > > but if " nobody " is involved......

> > > > there is also no system which is fluctuating....

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Marc

> > >

> > > there is " phenomena " ...

> > > what we call " appearance "

> > > and there is constant transformation,

> > > fluctuation, change in " appearance " ...

> > >

> > > such fluctuation can be seen as

> > > " my experience " , but not necessarily.

> > >

> > > to *see it as* a dynamic system is an

> > > alternative. Just a way of seeing.

> > > To see as a dynamic system is interesting

> > > at times. But to see it in those terms

> > > is not (necessarily) to say it *is*

> > > a system.

> > >

> > > Bill

> > >

> >

> > It is strange to me that others can feel and understand

> > " change " and fluctuation. I do not understand it at all!

> >

> > Everything, every sequence of events is to me individual

> disconnected

> > parts that are complete things with no relation to each other...

> > I have a massive form of dyslexia in which I can only read one

> letter

> > at a time, never a whole word all at one glance. And that is how I

> > experience life.

> >

> > I artifically string things together in order to participate in

> life

> > events with other people. But I am just faking it. Often I am told

> > that my statements sound cumbersome or clumsy.

> >

> > As I am writing this my heart is pounding and I am hyperventalating

> > because I am touching something that feels powerful and explosive

> to

> > me, something I do not often look at.

> >

> > In the physical game of life this is not a pro survival state,

> because

> > writing my name or driving my car is imensly complicated to me...

> but

> > in a spiritual sense it is an infinity of individual " selves " and

> > " nows " , which is neither good nor bad.

> > I am not experiencing life this way, I am Being lives this way.

> > Nothing flows or changes, all things just are all at once to me.

> >

> > I often fear the future just like most other people, but I don't

> > comprehend how it is also, at some point, the present.

> >

> > Thanks for letting me express all of that to each of you as it

> helped

> > me see it more fully:-)

> >

> > Stuart

>

>

> Namaste Stuart,

>

> You have it but don't see it;-)

>

> There is a Stuart, and within that/this " Stuart " was an embryo,

> a newborn, a toddler, a teenager, a young man, etc. and where ever

> you are in the being-ness and evolution of Stuart, there is still

> one that has not been 'experienced/lived' so the past and future

> Stuarts are all inherent in the present 'Stuart'.

>

> Does that help?

>

 

Thanks for saying it, but I do not understand what you are saying...

 

I don't experience an evolution of me, only different Stuarts. I

don't feel that I am a conglomerate of all of my history, just an army

of selves, but my brain knows time and liniality and so my brain and I

disagree a lot:-)

 

Stu

 

>

> YIL,

> Ana

>

>

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