Guest guest Posted July 11, 2006 Report Share Posted July 11, 2006 Q: While the one aim is to realise the unconditioned, pure being of the Self, which is in no way dependent on the ego, how can enquiry pertaining to the ego in the form of aham-vritti ( " I " thought) be of any use? From the functional point of view the ego has one and only one characteristic. The ego functions as the knot between the Self which is pure consciousness and the physical body which is inert and insentient. The ego is therefore called the Chit-jada-granthi [the knot between consciousness and the inert body]. In your investigation into the source of aham-vritti ( " I " thought), you take the essential Chit [consciousness] aspect of the ego. For this reason the enquiry must lead to the realisation of pure consciousness of the Self. You must distinguish between the 'I', pure in itself, and the 'I'-thought. The latter being merely a thought, sees subject and object, sleeps, wakes up, eats and thinks, dies and is reborn. But the pure 'I' is the pure being, eternal existence, free from ignorance and thought-illusion. If you stay as the 'I', your being alone, without thought, the 'I'-thought will disappear and the delusion will vanish forever. In a cinema show you can see pictures only in a very dim light or in darkness. But when all the lights are switched on, the pictures disappear. So also in the floodlight of the supreme atman [self] all objects disappear. That is the transcendental state? No. Transcending what, and by whom? You alone exist. Be As You Are The Teachings of Sri Ramana Maharshi edited by David Godman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 11, 2006 Report Share Posted July 11, 2006 --- Era Molnar <n0ndual wrote: > > > Q: While the one aim is to realise the unconditioned, pure being of the > Self, > > which is in no way dependent on the ego, how can enquiry pertaining > to the ego in the form of aham-vritti ( " I " thought) be of any use? > > From the functional point of view the ego has one and only one > characteristic. > The ego functions as the knot between the Self which is pure consciousness > and the physical body which is inert and insentient. The ego is therefore > called > the Chit-jada-granthi [the knot between consciousness and the inert body]. > > In your investigation into the source of aham-vritti ( " I " thought), you > take the essential Chit > [consciousness] aspect of the ego. For this reason the enquiry must lead to > the realisation of pure consciousness of the Self. > > You must distinguish between the 'I', pure in itself, and the 'I'-thought. > The latter > being merely a thought, sees subject and object, sleeps, wakes up, eats and > thinks, > dies and is reborn. But the pure 'I' is the pure being, eternal existence, > free from > ignorance and thought-illusion. If you stay as the 'I', your being alone, > without > thought, the 'I'-thought will disappear and the delusion will vanish > forever. > In a cinema show you can see pictures only in a very dim light or in > darkness. > But when all the lights are switched on, the pictures disappear. So also in > the > floodlight of the supreme atman [self] all objects disappear. > > That is the transcendental state? > No. Transcending what, and by whom? You alone exist. > > Be As You Are > The Teachings of Sri Ramana Maharshi > edited by David Godman > How sweet this taste of Ramana! Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 11, 2006 Report Share Posted July 11, 2006 Love it! The Pure Grace of Ramana.... On 7/11/06, Era Molnar <n0ndual wrote: > > > > Q: While the one aim is to realise the unconditioned, pure being of the > Self, > > which is in no way dependent on the ego, how can enquiry pertaining > to the ego in the form of aham-vritti ( " I " thought) be of any use? > > From the functional point of view the ego has one and only one > characteristic. > The ego functions as the knot between the Self which is pure consciousness > and the physical body which is inert and insentient. The ego is therefore > called > the Chit-jada-granthi [the knot between consciousness and the inert body]. > > In your investigation into the source of aham-vritti ( " I " thought), you > take the essential Chit > [consciousness] aspect of the ego. For this reason the enquiry must lead > to > the realisation of pure consciousness of the Self. > > You must distinguish between the 'I', pure in itself, and the 'I'-thought. > The latter > being merely a thought, sees subject and object, sleeps, wakes up, eats > and thinks, > dies and is reborn. But the pure 'I' is the pure being, eternal existence, > free from > ignorance and thought-illusion. If you stay as the 'I', your being alone, > without > thought, the 'I'-thought will disappear and the delusion will vanish > forever. > In a cinema show you can see pictures only in a very dim light or in > darkness. > But when all the lights are switched on, the pictures disappear. So also > in the > floodlight of the supreme atman [self] all objects disappear. > > That is the transcendental state? > No. Transcending what, and by whom? You alone exist. > > Be As You Are > The Teachings of Sri Ramana Maharshi > edited by David Godman > > > -- OM Hrim Namah Shivaya Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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