Guest guest Posted May 11, 2006 Report Share Posted May 11, 2006 NondualitySalon , " dingopl " <dingopl wrote: NondualitySalon , " achim_orient " <aki-108@> wrote: > > > Hi all. > > > I joined this group to get opinions about an issue I'm having a hefty > debate about with a guy on german wikipedia. > > He added critics to all satsang-related articles in which he states > that so called traditional advaitins take their distance to the > satsang scene by rightly categorizing them as " neo-advaita " . I don't > want to repeat the content of the critics because that's a different > story, but I wonder what stance modern satsang-advaitins have about > the term. In my eyes accepting it would mean to say it's not advaita, > but something different, but I'm not completely sure. They argue that > by leaving away all the preparatory stuff of " the way " (like > meditation, japa, etc.), it's not the original thing. I argued back > that exactly this reduction is just melting the thing down to it's > very essence. But this is not the point as I said, the point is > wether or not to accept " neo " for publication. > > greetings, > > aki > Namaste, Without Sadhana it is not the same thing strictly speaking. Advaita as such is about Sankara and Gaudapada and the Mandukya Upanishad. Much neo advaita is just really intellectual nondualism, or verbal non dualism. It can only rotate in the vortices of the mind in never ending circles unless the samskaras are removed by Sadhana....Dingo. --- End forwarded message --- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 13, 2006 Report Share Posted July 13, 2006 What Neo-Advaita gives in fact boils down to the seductive formula that " there is nothing you can do or need to do, all you have to know is that there is no one there. " ... - Alan Adam Jacobs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 13, 2006 Report Share Posted July 13, 2006 Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " <pliantheart wrote: > > What Neo-Advaita gives in fact boils down to the seductive formula > that " there is nothing you can do or need to do, all you have to > know is that there is no one there. " ... > > - Alan Adam Jacobs > The fly in the ointment is that there still has to be someone there to know that....and that is the someone that is the fly. The spell has to be broken in a whole different dimension. One has to circle up over the orb and learn a whole new language. toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 13, 2006 Report Share Posted July 13, 2006 Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " <pliantheart wrote: > > What Neo-Advaita gives in fact boils down to the seductive formula > that " there is nothing you can do or need to do, all you have to > know is that there is no one there. " ... > > - Alan Adam Jacobs The error in this formula is that it artificially divides knowing from doing. Knowing, as spoken of here, is a doing. If you are knowing something, you are retaining it, which is a doing. If you speak spontaneously in a context as it presents, you will say what is adequate to the moment. You won't assume some formula (e.g., " there is no one here " ) is the adequate truth statement covering all moments. There isn't such a truth statement, never has been. The truth is what is, not what can be retained about it through a cognitive formula (including a formula like " the truth is what is. " ) -- Dan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 13, 2006 Report Share Posted July 13, 2006 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " <pliantheart@> > wrote: > > > > What Neo-Advaita gives in fact boils down to the seductive formula > > that " there is nothing you can do or need to do, all you have to > > know is that there is no one there. " ... > > > > - Alan Adam Jacobs > > > > > > The fly in the ointment is that there still has to be someone there to > know that....and that is the someone that is the fly. > > > The spell has to be broken in a whole different dimension. > > > One has to circle up over the orb and learn a whole new language. > > > > toombaru > There is no such thing as " the way it is " in this realm of discussion. This is not like physics where a description of " reality " can be given. Your comments above *could* be read by someone as a description of " the way it is " . So it is important to be careful not to mislead. This realm of discussion is what in Buddhism is called " skill in means " . There is no one way, there is no right/wrong when it comes to skill in means. When you say, " One has to... " that is not absolute. There are many many approaches. Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 13, 2006 Report Share Posted July 13, 2006 > > The truth is what is, not what can be retained about it through a > cognitive formula (including a formula like " the truth is what is. " ) > > -- Dan > " What is' only the self referential cognative impression if what is. toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 13, 2006 Report Share Posted July 13, 2006 --- dan330033 <dan330033 wrote: > Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " <pliantheart > wrote: > > > > What Neo-Advaita gives in fact boils down to the seductive formula > > that " there is nothing you can do or need to do, all you have to > > know is that there is no one there. " ... > > > > - Alan Adam Jacobs > > The error in this formula is that it artificially divides knowing from > doing. > > Knowing, as spoken of here, is a doing. > > If you are knowing something, you are retaining it, which is a doing. > > If you speak spontaneously in a context as it presents, you will say > what is adequate to the moment. You won't assume some formula (e.g., > " there is no one here " ) is the adequate truth statement covering all > moments. > > There isn't such a truth statement, never has been. > > The truth is what is, not what can be retained about it through a > cognitive formula (including a formula like " the truth is what is. " ) > > -- Dan > Good. Glad to hear you say that. So if A says, " I have been feeling distressed about X, " and B says, " Try just being in the moment with the feelings of distress. Just abide and witness the feelings, experience them in minute detail. " What have you to day to B's recommendation? Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 13, 2006 Report Share Posted July 13, 2006 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > > > > > The truth is what is, not what can be retained about it through a > > cognitive formula (including a formula like " the truth is what is. " ) > > > > -- Dan > > > > > " What is' only the self referential cognative impression if what is. > > > toombaru Yes. And self-reference is never accomplished. At the same time, there is always only self-reference, because there is nothing else to refer to. Perfect self-identity at all times, all places, and in all experiences is the same thing as no identity. -- D. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 13, 2006 Report Share Posted July 13, 2006 Nisargadatta , pliantheart <pliantheart wrote: > > > > --- dan330033 <dan330033 wrote: > > > Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " <pliantheart@> > > wrote: > > > > > > What Neo-Advaita gives in fact boils down to the seductive formula > > > that " there is nothing you can do or need to do, all you have to > > > know is that there is no one there. " ... > > > > > > - Alan Adam Jacobs > > > > The error in this formula is that it artificially divides knowing from > > doing. > > > > Knowing, as spoken of here, is a doing. > > > > If you are knowing something, you are retaining it, which is a doing. > > > > If you speak spontaneously in a context as it presents, you will say > > what is adequate to the moment. You won't assume some formula (e.g., > > " there is no one here " ) is the adequate truth statement covering all > > moments. > > > > There isn't such a truth statement, never has been. > > > > The truth is what is, not what can be retained about it through a > > cognitive formula (including a formula like " the truth is what is. " ) > > > > -- Dan > > > > Good. Glad to hear you say that. > > So if A says, " I have been feeling distressed about X, " > and B says, " Try just being in the moment with the feelings > of distress. Just abide and witness the feelings, experience > them in minute detail. " > > What have you to day to B's recommendation? > > Bill Well, first of all, it all depends on the situation, and on A and where A is coming from, and on B and B's relationship with A, and maybe even on X and who X is. So, by taking the words out of context and making a pronouncement about them, I am making a mistake. Having said that -- if I were A, I might feel like B hadn't really listened to me, just offered me some kind of generic advice. I might feel that this is more to A's benefit than to mine. B rushed quickly to give me an instruction -- and receiving an instruction that hasn't been asked for often comes across as a way of distancing, maybe even a kind of superiority placing the recipient one-down. If B were simple and direct in a way that let me know that B heard -- I might like that. " Wow, yeah -- you look distressed, " perhaps. Or .... " would you like to tell me more about it? " maybe. Or maybe some commiseration, like, " Yes, I know X and X has distressed me at times, as well. " If B were a Zen monk, maybe B would turn around and walk away. And if A were into Zen, maybe B's response would be perfect. But I'm not into Zen that much. ;-) -- D. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 13, 2006 Report Share Posted July 13, 2006 Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > The truth is what is, not what can be retained about it through a > > > cognitive formula (including a formula like " the truth is what is. " ) > > > > > > -- Dan > > > > > > > > > " What is' is only the self referential cognative impression if what is. > > > > > > toombaru > > Yes. > > And self-reference is never accomplished. > > At the same time, there is always only self-reference, because there > is nothing else to refer to. > > Perfect self-identity at all times, all places, and in all experiences > is the same thing as no identity. > > -- D. > ...........a bucket full of shadows......LOL toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 14, 2006 Report Share Posted July 14, 2006 --- dan330033 <dan330033 wrote: > Nisargadatta , pliantheart <pliantheart wrote: > > > > > > > > --- dan330033 <dan330033 wrote: > > > > > Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " <pliantheart@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > What Neo-Advaita gives in fact boils down to the seductive formula > > > > that " there is nothing you can do or need to do, all you have to > > > > know is that there is no one there. " ... > > > > > > > > - Alan Adam Jacobs > > > > > > The error in this formula is that it artificially divides knowing from > > > doing. > > > > > > Knowing, as spoken of here, is a doing. > > > > > > If you are knowing something, you are retaining it, which is a doing. > > > > > > If you speak spontaneously in a context as it presents, you will say > > > what is adequate to the moment. You won't assume some formula (e.g., > > > " there is no one here " ) is the adequate truth statement covering all > > > moments. > > > > > > There isn't such a truth statement, never has been. > > > > > > The truth is what is, not what can be retained about it through a > > > cognitive formula (including a formula like " the truth is what is. " ) > > > > > > -- Dan > > > > > > > Good. Glad to hear you say that. > > > > So if A says, " I have been feeling distressed about X, " > > and B says, " Try just being in the moment with the feelings > > of distress. Just abide and witness the feelings, experience > > them in minute detail. " > > > > What have you to day to B's recommendation? > > > > Bill > > Well, first of all, it all depends on the situation, and on A and > where A is coming from, and on B and B's relationship with A, and > maybe even on X and who X is. > > So, by taking the words out of context and making a pronouncement > about them, I am making a mistake. > > Having said that -- > > if I were A, I might feel like B hadn't really listened to me, just > offered me some kind of generic advice. I might feel that this is > more to A's benefit than to mine. > > B rushed quickly to give me an instruction -- and receiving an > instruction that hasn't been asked for often comes across as a way of > distancing, maybe even a kind of superiority placing the recipient > one-down. > > If B were simple and direct in a way that let me know that B heard -- > I might like that. " Wow, yeah -- you look distressed, " perhaps. Or > ... " would you like to tell me more about it? " maybe. Or maybe some > commiseration, like, " Yes, I know X and X has distressed me at times, > as well. " > > If B were a Zen monk, maybe B would turn around and walk away. > > And if A were into Zen, maybe B's response would be perfect. > > But I'm not into Zen that much. ;-) > > -- D. Great!!! Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 14, 2006 Report Share Posted July 14, 2006 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " <pliantheart@> > wrote: > > > > What Neo-Advaita gives in fact boils down to the seductive formula > > that " there is nothing you can do or need to do, all you have to > > know is that there is no one there. " ... > > > > - Alan Adam Jacobs > > > > > > The fly in the ointment is that there still has to be someone there to > know that....and that is the someone that is the fly. > > > The spell has to be broken in a whole different dimension. > > > One has to circle up over the orb and learn a whole new language. > > > > toombaru > Yes, and that language is not the language, but the way. And the question is not who or what but how-now. And the time is not when, or why, or which, but this eternity. It is only in the way that non-(self/other) is no longer " hidden, " where all is already, and has always been, the perpetual state of revelation. Here all is, all are, already ultimate. Here: Everywhere 8 ~*~ 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 14, 2006 Report Share Posted July 14, 2006 Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " <pliantheart wrote: > > What Neo-Advaita gives in fact boils down to the seductive formula > that " there is nothing you can do or need to do, all you have to > know is that there is no one there. " ... > > - Alan Adam Jacobs > That sounds wonderful. What a way to explain it! Jesus, Buddha, Krishna - no-one there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 15, 2006 Report Share Posted July 15, 2006 --- jasondedonno <jasondedonno wrote: > Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " <pliantheart > wrote: > > > > What Neo-Advaita gives in fact boils down to the seductive formula > > that " there is nothing you can do or need to do, all you have to > > know is that there is no one there. " ... > > > > - Alan Adam Jacobs > > > > That sounds wonderful. What a way to explain it! Jesus, Buddha, > Krishna - no-one there. > The operative word in the quote is " seductive " . Yeah, " SOUNDS wonderful " ... Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 15, 2006 Report Share Posted July 15, 2006 Nisargadatta , pliantheart <pliantheart wrote: > > > > --- jasondedonno <jasondedonno wrote: > > > Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " <pliantheart@> > > wrote: > > > > > > What Neo-Advaita gives in fact boils down to the seductive formula > > > that " there is nothing you can do or need to do, all you have to > > > know is that there is no one there. " ... > > > > > > - Alan Adam Jacobs > > > > > > > That sounds wonderful. What a way to explain it! Jesus, Buddha, > > Krishna - no-one there. > > > > The operative word in the quote is " seductive " . > > Yeah, " SOUNDS wonderful " ... > > Bill > > > > > > > ....and if I should become the sound of myself I shall be the winds of change, held in Your fingertips Oh, Love, You have breathed me, ....in the roar of this silence Oh, Love, You have returned my echo.... Ana (Hi Toomey;-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 15, 2006 Report Share Posted July 15, 2006 Nisargadatta , pliantheart <pliantheart wrote: > > > > --- jasondedonno <jasondedonno wrote: > > > Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " <pliantheart@> > > wrote: > > > > > > What Neo-Advaita gives in fact boils down to the seductive formula > > > that " there is nothing you can do or need to do, all you have to > > > know is that there is no one there. " ... > > > > > > - Alan Adam Jacobs > > > > > > > That sounds wonderful. What a way to explain it! Jesus, Buddha, > > Krishna - no-one there. > > > > The operative word in the quote is " seductive " . > > Yeah, " SOUNDS wonderful " ... > > Bill So, this is rubbish too then? It seems I can't open my mouth hear without getting it wrong!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 15, 2006 Report Share Posted July 15, 2006 Nisargadatta , " jasondedonno " <jasondedonno wrote: > > Nisargadatta , pliantheart <pliantheart@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > --- jasondedonno <jasondedonno@> wrote: > > > > > Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " > <pliantheart@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > What Neo-Advaita gives in fact boils down to the seductive > formula > > > > that " there is nothing you can do or need to do, all you have > to > > > > know is that there is no one there. " ... > > > > > > > > - Alan Adam Jacobs > > > > > > > > > > That sounds wonderful. What a way to explain it! Jesus, Buddha, > > > Krishna - no-one there. > > > > > > > The operative word in the quote is " seductive " . > > > > Yeah, " SOUNDS wonderful " ... > > > > Bill > > So, this is rubbish too then? It seems I can't open my mouth hear > without getting it wrong!!! unless it's an echo of words of certain others, or a mockingbird's return call of certain other's words....certain others will always say 'it's' wrong.....for them, only they, their thougts and their beliefs have merit or truth....and for them THAT'S TRUE......sad isn't it? Vessels so full of old, fetid contents, and nothing can be poured in to refresh and renew.......I loved you're contribution to the stream and streaming thoughts passing through, jasondedonno...... ...........bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 15, 2006 Report Share Posted July 15, 2006 Nisargadatta , " jasondedonno " <jasondedonno wrote: > > Nisargadatta , pliantheart <pliantheart@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > --- jasondedonno <jasondedonno@> wrote: > > > > > Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " > <pliantheart@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > What Neo-Advaita gives in fact boils down to the seductive > formula > > > > that " there is nothing you can do or need to do, all you have > to > > > > know is that there is no one there. " ... > > > > > > > > - Alan Adam Jacobs > > > > > > > > > > That sounds wonderful. What a way to explain it! Jesus, Buddha, > > > Krishna - no-one there. > > > > > > > The operative word in the quote is " seductive " . > > > > Yeah, " SOUNDS wonderful " ... > > > > Bill > > So, this is rubbish too then? It seems I can't open my mouth hear > without getting it wrong!!! > As soon as a word is spoken.......it is wrong. toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 15, 2006 Report Share Posted July 15, 2006 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " jasondedonno " <jasondedonno@> > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , pliantheart <pliantheart@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > --- jasondedonno <jasondedonno@> wrote: > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " > > <pliantheart@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > What Neo-Advaita gives in fact boils down to the seductive > > formula > > > > > that " there is nothing you can do or need to do, all you have > > to > > > > > know is that there is no one there. " ... > > > > > > > > > > - Alan Adam Jacobs > > > > > > > > > > > > > That sounds wonderful. What a way to explain it! Jesus, Buddha, > > > > Krishna - no-one there. > > > > > > > > > > The operative word in the quote is " seductive " . > > > > > > Yeah, " SOUNDS wonderful " ... > > > > > > Bill > > > > So, this is rubbish too then? It seems I can't open my mouth hear > > without getting it wrong!!! > > > > > > As soon as a word is spoken.......it is wrong. > > > > toombaru > Speech is going to the river......with a teaspoon. toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 15, 2006 Report Share Posted July 15, 2006 --- toombaru2006 <lastrain wrote: > Nisargadatta , " jasondedonno " <jasondedonno > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , pliantheart <pliantheart@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > --- jasondedonno <jasondedonno@> wrote: > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " > > <pliantheart@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > What Neo-Advaita gives in fact boils down to the seductive > > formula > > > > > that " there is nothing you can do or need to do, all you have > > to > > > > > know is that there is no one there. " ... > > > > > > > > > > - Alan Adam Jacobs > > > > > > > > > > > > > That sounds wonderful. What a way to explain it! Jesus, Buddha, > > > > Krishna - no-one there. > > > > > > > > > > The operative word in the quote is " seductive " . > > > > > > Yeah, " SOUNDS wonderful " ... > > > > > > Bill > > > > So, this is rubbish too then? It seems I can't open my mouth hear > > without getting it wrong!!! > > > > > > As soon as a word is spoken.......it is wrong. > > > > toombaru > no no, it's concern about right and wrong that is wrong Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 15, 2006 Report Share Posted July 15, 2006 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " jasondedonno " <jasondedonno@> > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , pliantheart <pliantheart@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > --- jasondedonno <jasondedonno@> wrote: > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " > > <pliantheart@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > What Neo-Advaita gives in fact boils down to the seductive > > formula > > > > > that " there is nothing you can do or need to do, all you have > > to > > > > > know is that there is no one there. " ... > > > > > > > > > > - Alan Adam Jacobs > > > > > > > > > > > > > That sounds wonderful. What a way to explain it! Jesus, Buddha, > > > > Krishna - no-one there. > > > > > > > > > > The operative word in the quote is " seductive " . > > > > > > Yeah, " SOUNDS wonderful " ... > > > > > > Bill > > > > So, this is rubbish too then? It seems I can't open my mouth hear > > without getting it wrong!!! > > > > > > As soon as a word is spoken.......it is wrong. > > > > toombaru > What's wrong? ~8~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 15, 2006 Report Share Posted July 15, 2006 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " jasondedonno " <jasondedonno@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , pliantheart <pliantheart@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- jasondedonno <jasondedonno@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " > > > <pliantheart@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > What Neo-Advaita gives in fact boils down to the seductive > > > formula > > > > > > that " there is nothing you can do or need to do, all you have > > > to > > > > > > know is that there is no one there. " ... > > > > > > > > > > > > - Alan Adam Jacobs > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That sounds wonderful. What a way to explain it! Jesus, Buddha, > > > > > Krishna - no-one there. > > > > > > > > > > > > > The operative word in the quote is " seductive " . > > > > > > > > Yeah, " SOUNDS wonderful " ... > > > > > > > > Bill > > > > > > So, this is rubbish too then? It seems I can't open my mouth hear > > > without getting it wrong!!! > > > > > > > > > > > As soon as a word is spoken.......it is wrong. > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > Speech is going to the river......with a teaspoon. > > > > > toombaru > A teaspoon of your love goes a long way. ~ 8 ~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 15, 2006 Report Share Posted July 15, 2006 Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " <skywords wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " jasondedonno " <jasondedonno@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , pliantheart <pliantheart@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- jasondedonno <jasondedonno@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " > > > > <pliantheart@> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What Neo-Advaita gives in fact boils down to the seductive > > > > formula > > > > > > > that " there is nothing you can do or need to do, all you > have > > > > to > > > > > > > know is that there is no one there. " ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Alan Adam Jacobs > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That sounds wonderful. What a way to explain it! Jesus, Buddha, > > > > > > Krishna - no-one there. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The operative word in the quote is " seductive " . > > > > > > > > > > Yeah, " SOUNDS wonderful " ... > > > > > > > > > > Bill > > > > > > > > So, this is rubbish too then? It seems I can't open my mouth hear > > > > without getting it wrong!!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As soon as a word is spoken.......it is wrong. > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > Speech is going to the river......with a teaspoon. > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > A teaspoon of your love goes a long way. > > ~ 8 ~ > It's all water. toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 15, 2006 Report Share Posted July 15, 2006 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " <skywords@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " jasondedonno " <jasondedonno@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , pliantheart <pliantheart@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- jasondedonno <jasondedonno@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " > > > > > <pliantheart@> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What Neo-Advaita gives in fact boils down to the seductive > > > > > formula > > > > > > > > that " there is nothing you can do or need to do, all you > > have > > > > > to > > > > > > > > know is that there is no one there. " ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Alan Adam Jacobs > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That sounds wonderful. What a way to explain it! Jesus, > Buddha, > > > > > > > Krishna - no-one there. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The operative word in the quote is " seductive " . > > > > > > > > > > > > Yeah, " SOUNDS wonderful " ... > > > > > > > > > > > > Bill > > > > > > > > > > So, this is rubbish too then? It seems I can't open my mouth hear > > > > > without getting it wrong!!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As soon as a word is spoken.......it is wrong. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > Speech is going to the river......with a teaspoon. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > A teaspoon of your love goes a long way. > > > > ~ 8 ~ > > > > > > > It's all water. > > > > toombaru > All One, Too, Two, Tu ~ 8 ~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 15, 2006 Report Share Posted July 15, 2006 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " <skywords@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " jasondedonno " <jasondedonno@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , pliantheart <pliantheart@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- jasondedonno <jasondedonno@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " > > > > > <pliantheart@> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What Neo-Advaita gives in fact boils down to the seductive > > > > > formula > > > > > > > > that " there is nothing you can do or need to do, all you > > have > > > > > to > > > > > > > > know is that there is no one there. " ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Alan Adam Jacobs > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That sounds wonderful. What a way to explain it! Jesus, > Buddha, > > > > > > > Krishna - no-one there. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The operative word in the quote is " seductive " . > > > > > > > > > > > > Yeah, " SOUNDS wonderful " ... > > > > > > > > > > > > Bill > > > > > > > > > > So, this is rubbish too then? It seems I can't open my mouth hear > > > > > without getting it wrong!!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As soon as a word is spoken.......it is wrong. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > Speech is going to the river......with a teaspoon. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > A teaspoon of your love goes a long way. > > > > ~ 8 ~ > > > > > > > It's all water. > > > > toombaru only 'wetness' is.....water is a metaphor......or is that meat for four? may I take your order? .......bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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