Guest guest Posted July 15, 2006 Report Share Posted July 15, 2006 To get the grace of the Lord is more important than to please yourself with the worldly pleasures here, which includes fame. To please the Lord is more important than to get the grace of the Lord. The sages tried to get the grace of the Lord to save themselves from hell through penance. But the same sages in the form of Gopikas tried to please the Lord even by going to hell by offering the foot-dust to Lord Krishna. Therefore, the Gopikas are treated higher than the Lord by the Lord Himself and the life of the Gopikas is more sacred than the penance. Bhagavatham, explaining the life of Gopikas, should be the highest aim of this human life. All the greatness of Bhagavatham is due to Gopikas only. Radha, who even became mad in the love of God, stands as the queen of Gopikas. Grace of the Lord indicates selfishness in us, whereas the pleasure of the Lord indicates the sacrifice in us. Thus the final stage of Sadhana is only to end selfishness and reach the climax of sacrifice in the case of Lord. Some ignorant people reach the climax of sacrifice towards the society, which is foolishness. Sacrifice to please your body and your family is more important than to please the society and this is Pravritti or justice. But the Lord is more important than your body and family and this is Nivrutti or spiritual field. You must know both Pravrutti and Nivrutti and act according to the context. Fully ignorant people of Tamas quality cannot know the significance of both these fields as said in the Gita (pravrittimcha nivruttimcha). At the lotus feet of Shri Datta Swami surya http://www.universal-spirituality.org anabebe57 <kailashana wrote: " skywhilds " <skywords wrote: > > Grace is Eternal Devotion > > Anxiety, illusion, suffering, separation and despair: > These are but an Other's earthy glare> Another's shadow > Shallow, violent, hastening stare. > Such awkwardness as labors there, > > Under another's schedule > Another's school > Another's worldly rule > > But when inwardness retreats into its own timelessness > There to find in Now the ever present of Eternity > > Such coupling deepening fraternity > Beyond alienation, care and space > Consummates in an undulating > Cherished connubial embrace > > Whose total devotional finality, > Is the oceanic dance of infinity, > Whose mystical, transcendental > Endless space and > Pace > Is Grace> Gorgeous!!! grace bows to grace in " Namasste " and " I Love You " Get on board. You're invited to try the new Mail Beta. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 15, 2006 Report Share Posted July 15, 2006 Nisargadatta , prakki surya <dattapr2000 wrote: > > To get the grace of the Lord is more important than to please yourself with the worldly pleasures here, which includes fame. To please the Lord is more important than to get the grace of the Lord. The sages tried to get the grace of the Lord to save themselves from hell through penance. But the same sages in the form of Gopikas tried to please the Lord even by going to hell by offering the foot-dust to Lord Krishna. Therefore, the Gopikas are treated higher than the Lord by the Lord Himself and the life of the Gopikas is more sacred than the penance. Bhagavatham, explaining the life of Gopikas, should be the highest aim of this human life. All the greatness of Bhagavatham is due to Gopikas only. Radha, who even became mad in the love of God, stands as the queen of Gopikas. Grace of the Lord indicates selfishness in us, whereas the pleasure of the Lord indicates the sacrifice in us. Thus the final stage of Sadhana is only to end selfishness and reach the climax of sacrifice > in the case of Lord. Some ignorant people reach the climax of sacrifice towards the society, which is foolishness. Sacrifice to please your body and your family is more important than to please the society and this is Pravritti or justice. But the Lord is more important than your body and family and this is Nivrutti or spiritual field. You must know both Pravrutti and Nivrutti and act according to the context. Fully ignorant people of Tamas quality cannot know the significance of both these fields as said in the Gita (pravrittimcha nivruttimcha). ~ o ~ Very emblematic! Regarding this pronouncement, my first impression is that one would have to be well versed in an insular vernacular to fully comprehend what some might call overspecialized jargon. Such code can be cumbersome, academic, rigidly hierarchical and exclusive. There is also an implication of gratuitous violence, both in the metaphors and in the desperation of such words as " ignorance, " and " sacrifice. " The identification of any quality, such as ignorance or grace, with any entity, such as Lord, people or the body, seems an attachment. Whereas, for me, grace is everywhere and anywhere, available to anyone at any time, unconditionally and beyond any relationship to any entity, whether mundane and mortal or celestial and divine. Grace is gentleness made limitless. Perhaps That is the very cleverly hidden homeopathic and self destructing meaning, in the passage above: First one protests against the seemingly external and unnecessary tyranny, then one recognizes it as always having been one's own! ~8~ > > Get on board. You're invited to try the new Mail Beta. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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