Guest guest Posted July 17, 2006 Report Share Posted July 17, 2006 Nisargadatta , pliantheart <pliantheart wrote: > > > > --- dennis_travis33 <dennis_travis33 wrote: > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " jasondedonno " > > > > <jasondedonno@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > I'm beginnging to feel like a monkey in zoo myself. Is everyone > > > > here > > > > > stateless, or are there a few imagined beings like me? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Well.........that's just it. > > > > > > There is no you. > > > > > > So..........in a way.........we are all here......like you. > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > now that you know the truth...... > > you are free for all times..... > > the doors of the mind-zoo are wide open.... > > > > up to you .... > > > > to handle your absolut liberty.... > > > > there is nobody else > > > > Marc > > > > > > > Who has what liberty? Come again? > > If I am free it is because there > is no liberty to be reckoned with. > > Bill > > liberty is.... just like the river flow freely to the ocean.... and join the ocean.... after some time...and space Marc > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 17, 2006 Report Share Posted July 17, 2006 > > > liberty is.... > > just like the river flow freely to the ocean.... > > and join the ocean.... > > after some time...and space > > Marc > > > > > > > 'River' and 'ocean' are mental constructs. They are artificial names for water which was never separated. toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 17, 2006 Report Share Posted July 17, 2006 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > > > > > > liberty is.... > > > > just like the river flow freely to the ocean.... > > > > and join the ocean.... > > > > after some time...and space > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 'River' and 'ocean' are mental constructs. > > They are artificial names for water which was never separated. > > > toombaru true.... liberty was never separated from/to/of.... liberty can't be found on an ocean....or a river....or a mountain.... liberty is there.....here and now at every moment.... Marc > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 17, 2006 Report Share Posted July 17, 2006 Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > liberty is.... > > > > > > just like the river flow freely to the ocean.... > > > > > > and join the ocean.... > > > > > > after some time...and space > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 'River' and 'ocean' are mental constructs. > > > > They are artificial names for water which was never separated. > > > > > > toombaru > > > true.... > > liberty was never separated from/to/of.... > > liberty can't be found on an ocean....or a river....or a mountain.... > > liberty is there.....here and now > > at every moment.... > > > Marc > > > There is no such thing as 'liberty'. There is nothing to which it could apply. Put some in a box......and send me some. toombaru-toombaru (I think that Bill is on to something) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 17, 2006 Report Share Posted July 17, 2006 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > liberty is.... > > > > > > > > just like the river flow freely to the ocean.... > > > > > > > > and join the ocean.... > > > > > > > > after some time...and space > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 'River' and 'ocean' are mental constructs. > > > > > > They are artificial names for water which was never separated. > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > true.... > > > > liberty was never separated from/to/of.... > > > > liberty can't be found on an ocean....or a river....or a mountain.... > > > > liberty is there.....here and now > > > > at every moment.... > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > There is no such thing as 'liberty'. > > There is nothing to which it could apply. > > Put some in a box......and send me some. > > > > toombaru-toombaru > > (I think that Bill is on to something) yes.... Bill is the liberty in form of a (one) person Marc > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 17, 2006 Report Share Posted July 17, 2006 Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > liberty is.... > > > > > > > > > > just like the river flow freely to the ocean.... > > > > > > > > > > and join the ocean.... > > > > > > > > > > after some time...and space > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 'River' and 'ocean' are mental constructs. > > > > > > > > They are artificial names for water which was never separated. > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > true.... > > > > > > liberty was never separated from/to/of.... > > > > > > liberty can't be found on an ocean....or a river....or a > mountain.... > > > > > > liberty is there.....here and now > > > > > > at every moment.... > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There is no such thing as 'liberty'. > > > > There is nothing to which it could apply. > > > > Put some in a box......and send me some. > > > > > > > > toombaru-toombaru > > > > (I think that Bill is on to something) > > yes.... > > Bill is the liberty in form of a (one) person > > > > Marc > > > " Person " is the antithesis of liberty. toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 17, 2006 Report Share Posted July 17, 2006 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > liberty is.... > > > > > > > > > > > > just like the river flow freely to the ocean.... > > > > > > > > > > > > and join the ocean.... > > > > > > > > > > > > after some time...and space > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 'River' and 'ocean' are mental constructs. > > > > > > > > > > They are artificial names for water which was never separated. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > true.... > > > > > > > > liberty was never separated from/to/of.... > > > > > > > > liberty can't be found on an ocean....or a river....or a > > mountain.... > > > > > > > > liberty is there.....here and now > > > > > > > > at every moment.... > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There is no such thing as 'liberty'. > > > > > > There is nothing to which it could apply. > > > > > > Put some in a box......and send me some. > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru-toombaru > > > > > > (I think that Bill is on to something) > > > > yes.... > > > > Bill is the liberty in form of a (one) person > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > " Person " is the antithesis of liberty. > > > toombaru yes > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 17, 2006 Report Share Posted July 17, 2006 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > > > > > > liberty is.... > > > > just like the river flow freely to the ocean.... > > > > and join the ocean.... > > > > after some time...and space > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 'River' and 'ocean' are mental constructs. > > They are artificial names for water which was never separated. > > > toombaru there is no such entity as 'water', nor any such state as 'seperation',nor any such possibility as 'union'.....artificial is as artificial is, as artificial does as artificial does, artificiality is all and all........without name or number or constructs of matter or mind.......all is lost! ............bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 17, 2006 Report Share Posted July 17, 2006 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > liberty is.... > > > > > > > > just like the river flow freely to the ocean.... > > > > > > > > and join the ocean.... > > > > > > > > after some time...and space > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 'River' and 'ocean' are mental constructs. > > > > > > They are artificial names for water which was never separated. > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > true.... > > > > liberty was never separated from/to/of.... > > > > liberty can't be found on an ocean....or a river....or a mountain.... > > > > liberty is there.....here and now > > > > at every moment.... > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > There is no such thing as 'liberty'. > > There is nothing to which it could apply. > > Put some in a box......and send me some. > > > > toombaru-toombaru > > (I think that Bill is on to something) toombaru......you often mix metaphors, but here you mix metaphor with reality.....no I can't send you reality in a box.....can you 'send' anything when everything is already here and now....of course not.....and liberty cannot be viewed anymore than the 'love' you have for your geandkids that you talk about......would you say that is unreal than because it can't be mailed in a box? of course you wouldn't........and is that love applicable to anything? Just an honest question and an honest statement regarding mixing metaphors with reality and apples and oranges.....whether there are any such 'things' or not. ........bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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